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57 minutes ago, Ryanmahaffe said:

Spike making the choice would be something very mature though.


I am oh so hyped for this episode.

I know! We'll get the answer to where he came from! But will we get the answer to how he came in Celestia's possession?

 

Hope they say Scorpan!

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I don't think this dragon is Spike's father, but I would bet he knows who's Spike's parents are and where they are or what happened to them. Perhaps maybe he knows why Celestria took the Egg that contained Spike. And don't surprised if Celestria has a part in this as well.

 

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8 hours ago, bwrosas said:
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I don't think this dragon is Spike's father, but I would bet he knows who's Spike's parents are and where they are or what happened to them. Perhaps maybe he knows why Celestria took the Egg that contained Spike. And don't surprised if Celestria has a part in this as well.

 

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That could be interesting. I mean there must be a big reason he's faking being his dad

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On 2/5/2018 at 12:09 AM, Karnak said:
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That could be interesting. I mean there must be a big reason he's faking being his dad

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I don't think he's a fake! I think that's his real dad! They can't fake Spike's family in here. That's just too harsh for his character to have. The quotes on "dad" probably means that he was never there for him, he was never the fatherly figure that he needed before, either that or maybe his family isn't the family Spike was hoping for. But they're not fakes!

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2 hours ago, MegaSean45 said:

 

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I don't think he's a fake! I think that's his real dad! They can't fake Spike's family in here. That's just too harsh for his character to have. The quotes on "dad" probably means that he was never there for him, he was never the fatherly figure that he needed before, either that or maybe his family isn't the family Spike was hoping for. But they're not fakes!

 

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I get it! His dad thinks he can come in and just tell him how to live his life.

 

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I kinda see this as how they meet

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Spike flies up to the hundred foot dragon who crash landed in Ponyville)

Sulfur: (smiles and grabs Spike the same way Torch grabbed Ember and holds him in his palm) I thought I would never see you again. How you've grown!

Spike: (confused) Wha....who....when did we meet!? who are you?!

Sulfur: (Smiles proudly) Well, I'm not surprised you don't know me, you were still an egg. (Shouts in the air proudly) I am Sulfur! Son of Brimstone II, mate of Alabasta...(calmly says to Spike) And your father.

 

 

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50 minutes ago, Karnak said:

I kinda see this as how they meet

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Spike flies up to the hundred foot dragon who crash landed in Ponyville)

Sulfur: (smiles and grabs Spike the same way Torch grabbed Ember and holds him in his palm) I thought I would never see you again. How you've grown!

Spike: (confused) Wha....who....when did we meet!? who are you?!

Sulfur: (Smiles proudly) Well, I'm not surprised you don't know me, you were still an egg. (Shouts in the air proudly) I am Sulfur! Son of Brimstone II, mate of Alabasta...(calmly says to Spike) And your father.

 

 

And here's how it'll end!

Spike: "But there's still something that puzzles me. If I was born here, how did I end up with the ponies?

Sulfur: *looks at his wife confusingly* "We don't know. It was around the time the centaur invader attacked, we went to shelter, and grabbed all the eggs we could find. But once we returned to retrieve you, you were gone. From day forward, we looked after all our children very closely and strictly."

Spike: "Is that why you didn't want me to return to Ponyville? You were afraid of losing me again."

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7 minutes ago, MegaSean45 said:

And here's how it'll end!

 

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Spike: "But there's still something that puzzles me. If I was born here, how did I end up with the ponies?

Sulfur: *looks at his wife confusingly* "We don't know. It was around the time the centaur invader attacked, we went to shelter, and grabbed all the eggs we could find. But once we returned to retrieve you, you were gone. From day forward, we looked after all our children very closely and strictly."

Spike: "Is that why you didn't want me to return to Ponyville? You were afraid of losing me again."

 

That would be best case for the episode! :)

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This episode sounds a tad yawn inducing, gotta be honest. Unless this actually turns out to be a case of him actually being his real father. Even then, it will probably be a case of him being a total dick or someone unlikable. I am going to keep pretty low expecations for this one. I know if I think of anything more for it, I will be disappointed.


 

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On 2/3/2018 at 10:54 PM, WiiGuy2014 said:

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During the S5 finale while Twilight and Spike were preventing Starlight from messing with the Rainboom, I as Unicorn Will Guide, secretly went on my own time-travel quest. I met Spike's very kind dragon parents who were dying, meaning Spike's egg would have perished had they not given the egg to me, who would give to Celestia before Filly Twilight's entrance exam. And the rest would be history.

But in the show's canon, I do genuinely want to know what will be revealed in the episode, even if I won't like what we'll see.

@Truffles @MegaSean45, what do you guys think?

@MegaSean45, you never responded to my post and it's keeping me awake at night. Please tell me what you think of what's in the spoiler box. Either here in spoiler box too or in PM.


 

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Just now, Kyoshi said:

This episode sounds a tad yawn inducing, gotta be honest. Unless this actually turns out to be a case of him actually being his real father. Even then, it will probably be a case of him being a total dick or someone unlikable. I am going to keep pretty low expecations for this one. I know if I think of anything more for it, I will be disappointed.

I'm almost certain they're not gonna fake daddy in this episode! People have been waiting for this episode for the entire series! If the writers fake Spike's parents, that would be an insult to both Spike's character and a big middle finger for thise that have been waiting so long for this!

I got the feeling it's gonna be just as heartwarming as The Perfect Pear! :D

Just now, WiiGuy2014 said:

@MegaSean45, you never responded to my post and it's keeping me awake at night. Please tell me what you think of what's in the spoiler box. Either here in spoiler box too or in PM.

I'm sure everything will turn our great! :D This answer will give us at least half of Spike's origin story! ;)

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1 minute ago, MegaSean45 said:

I'm almost certain they're not gonna fake daddy in this episode! People have been waiting for this episode for the entire series! If the writers fake Spike's parents, that would be an insult to both Spike's character and a big middle finger for thise that have been waiting so long for this!

I got the feeling it's gonna be just as heartwarming as The Perfect Pear! :D

I suppose you have a point. Maybe I am just looking at it in the wrong way. If it even comes close to Perfect Pear or Parental Glideance, then I will be happy. As long as they don't give it to a totally new writer as their first episode. :P 

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Just now, MegaSean45 said:

I got the feeling it's gonna be just as heartwarming as The Perfect Pear! :D

 

I hope this episode devotes a bit of time to Twilight Sparkle having to cope with the possibility of losing Spike as a son/friend.

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14 minutes ago, MegaSean45 said:

 

I'm sure everything will turn our great! :D This answer will give us at least half of Spike's origin story! ;)

You didn't exactly answer the question I asked. But I really shouldn't be too critical of something this soon.

Regardless, Truffles did give me a reminder that "so what if it ends up jossing my potential fan fiction" It's not wrong to write what I have in mind anyway and call it an alterative continuity, right, @MegaSean45?


 

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10 minutes ago, WiiGuy2014 said:

You didn't exactly answer the question I asked. But I really shouldn't be too critical of something this soon.

Regardless, Truffles did give me a reminder that "so what if it ends up jossing my potential fan fiction" It's not wrong to write what I have in mind anyway and call it an alterative continuity, right, @MegaSean45?

Oh. Well I wouldn't want his parents to be passed on especially before he met him. But hey it's your fanfic. My fanfic says Scorpan was the one who found Spike's egg, which I really want to come true! We're all pretty passionate when it comes to our fanfics! :D

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14 hours ago, MegaSean45 said:

Oh. Well I wouldn't want his parents to be passed on especially before he met him. But hey it's your fanfic. My fanfic says Scorpan was the one who found Spike's egg, which I really want to come true! We're all pretty passionate when it comes to our fanfics! :D

I think Celestia got the egg from the mother herself. I hope this episode confirms that idea. :icwudt:


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 Finally we get to see spike's origin! no mother?

 


                 

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42 minutes ago, MegaSean45 said:

Oh you're on! I hope it was Scorpan that found the egg! >:)

Bet you do. :D

I want to believe Scorpan brought the egg, but I think Scorpan never returned to Equestria. We also don't know if he is even still alife at this point. :dash:


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Just now, Hierok said:

Bet you do. :D

I want to believe Scorpan brought the egg, but I think Scorpan never returned to Equestria. We also don't know if he is even still alife at this point. :dash:

It would seem like a wasted opportunity to at least not have a story about Scorpan and Tirek reuniting! It's like the ultimate friendship lesson, and it's also something the Mane Six have done before! In fact, their very first friendship lesson was to defeat Nightmare Moon and reunite Celestia and Luna! Scorpan and Tirek is just like that, only more difficult cause Tirek isn't possessed! If Scorpan wasn't the one that brought Spike's egg then fine, but they should really do a Scorpan/Tirek reunion story!

Scorpan was originally gonna be in the MLP Movie, as the original owner of the Storm King's staff, but they cut that out, so they're probably saving him! Let's hope I'm right about this!

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1 minute ago, MegaSean45 said:

It would seem like a wasted opportunity to at least not have a story about Scorpan and Tirek reuniting! It's like the ultimate friendship lesson, and it's also something the Mane Six have done before! In fact, their very first friendship lesson was to defeat Nightmare Moon and reunite Celestia and Luna! Scorpan and Tirek is just like that, only more difficult cause Tirek isn't possessed! If Scorpan wasn't the one that brought Spike's egg then fine, but they should really do a Scorpan/Tirek reunion story!

Scorpan was originally gonna be in the MLP Movie, as the original owner of the Storm King's staff, but they cut that out, so they're probably saving him! Let's hope I'm right about this!

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Maybe he'll show up in the season 8 finale. :dash:

 


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1 hour ago, Hierok said:

I think Celestia got the egg from the mother herself. I hope this episode confirms that idea. :icwudt:

 

1 hour ago, MegaSean45 said:

Oh you're on! I hope it was Scorpan that found the egg! >:)

 

29 minutes ago, Hierok said:

Bet you do. :D

I want to believe Scorpan brought the egg, but I think Scorpan never returned to Equestria. We also don't know if he is even still alife at this point. :dash:

Actually, Scorpan finding Spike's egg is not a bad idea. I'll put my bet on that and we'll see in about 6 months.

I can always write how I saw his egg came to be as fan fiction alterative universe. 

Thank you, guys.


 

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Sulfur: (looks at Rarity) Do you mind? Father and son are talking, so shoo.

Sulfur:(to Twilight) Thanks for taking care of my son put until now, but I'll take it from here.

 

 

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 I mean come on, Spike has NEVER seen Twilight as a parent, and never will. Even said..

 

Having Spike call Twilight "Mommy" or "Mom" would be an insult to his character, he is not needy. Sure he see's Twilight as family but he see's ALL ponies as family. I can tell, that he would prefer a father and a mother that isn't a teenager(Cough Twilight couch) he is FAR above that, seeing Spike call Twilight mom would be..well humiliating for the poor guy. And its clear that he see's this dragon as a true patriarchal figure, as he is willing to give up his Pony culture to be a "real" dragon.

 

Spike is no baby

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