Forlong 1,726 September 26, 2013 Share September 26, 2013 I feel that if a canon is to be established then undermining it by creating contradictory canon is a bad idea because the process will ruin fiction. Long established fiction such as Star Wars was ruined in that way. I don't think the comics are canon. They are likely separate stories from FiM. I don't know about the books but I hope they aren't canon either. They shouldn't be. Just because Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell is terrible, doesn't mean the whole thing is non-canon. The other books might turn out to be quite good. Check out my YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5qXAcUzrizEHvorGalU5jg?feature=watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flicker 141 September 26, 2013 Share September 26, 2013 I believe that they are canon. At least, that's what I heard. If it isn't canon, the ones I've read fit in the universe perfectly and actually fill in some gaps that the show had to leave. You can only put so much in 22 minutes. Solar Flicker, http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/solar-flicker-r1972 Wind Whistle http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/wind-whistle-r2867 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNGRpony 658 September 26, 2013 Share September 26, 2013 Just because Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell is terrible, doesn't mean the whole thing is non-canon. The other books might turn out to be quite good. I think terrible wasn't his point. the star wars writing was better than the last episodes 1-3 instar wars. it's kinda hard to call the writer more cannon than lucas. The comic is likely better, but most people consider "the show" is always gonna be the main source material. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvTYhrZUgYY flight to the finish. i continue to improve, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megas 27,675 September 27, 2013 Share September 27, 2013 (edited) I believe the all comics have their place in FiM's canon with the exception of the Rainbow Dash Micro comic, which butchered the canon pretty hardcore Edited September 27, 2013 by Phoenix Trite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut 6,994 September 27, 2013 Share September 27, 2013 (edited) The way I see it, the comics are canon but they follow separate parallel continuities. One thing I like about the comic is that it refers to a lot of cartoon happenings as actual events, thus there is a strong shared history there. I especially liked when the comic told us what happened to Chrysalis after the wedding and her attempt to get some payback. But despite the comic writers' best efforts, it will be virtually impossible to keep both storylines free from contradictions and anolmolies. Edited September 27, 2013 by Wingnut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Bleck 19,366 September 27, 2013 Share September 27, 2013 (edited) I've always interpreted them more as mostly plausible "What If?" scenarios rather than actual canon stories. And I say, "Mostly," because do you REALLY think the show (TV-Y) would have Chrysalis mutilating a......whatever it was she mutilated in the comics......offscreen or not? Edited October 3, 2013 by Anti-Villain By Emerald.↑ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion 3,484 September 27, 2013 Share September 27, 2013 I like to consider them canon. They add to characters, they add to lore. And even though they might present a contradiction here and there, it's not like we're observing a mature large scale worldwide show for adult critics who will search for smallest mistake and will hammer it as soon as they find it. As for Chryssie and her little famous 'deed': Did you really think that predatory process of feeding on love was taking place during some kind of romantic dinner with candles etc? Don't be naive~! They were supposed to be evil, and during CT Wedding they only kept talking about what will they do. FiM comics finally presented it straight, now I can consider changelings evil without greater issues 𝕿𝖆𝖐𝖊 𝖒𝖊 𝖙𝖍𝖗𝖔𝖚𝖌𝖍 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖓𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙, 𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 𝖎𝖓 𝖙𝖔 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖉𝖆𝖗𝖐 𝖘𝖎𝖉𝖊! 𝖂𝖊 𝖉𝖔𝖓'𝖙 𝖓𝖊𝖊𝖉 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖑𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙, 𝖜𝖊 𝖑𝖎𝖛𝖊 𝖔𝖓 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖉𝖆𝖗𝖐 𝖘𝖎𝖉𝖊! 𝕴 𝖘𝖊𝖊 𝖎𝖙, 𝖑𝖊𝖙'𝖘 𝖋𝖊𝖊𝖑 𝖎𝖙, 𝖜𝖍𝖎𝖑𝖊 𝖜𝖊'𝖗𝖊 𝖘𝖙𝖎𝖑𝖑 𝖞𝖔𝖚𝖓𝖌 𝖆𝖓𝖉 𝖋𝖊𝖆𝖗𝖑𝖊𝖘𝖘! 𝕷𝖊𝖙 𝖌𝖔 𝖔𝖋 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖑𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙, 𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 𝖎𝖓 𝖙𝖔 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖉𝖆𝖗𝖐 𝖘𝖎𝖉𝖊! 𝕱𝖆𝖑𝖑 𝖎𝖓 𝖙𝖔 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖉𝖆𝖗𝖐 𝖘𝖎𝖉𝖊! 𝕲𝖎𝖛𝖊 𝖎𝖓 𝖙𝖔 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖉𝖆𝖗𝖐 𝖘𝖎𝖉𝖊! If you are not yet subscribed to Syrex, frankly, what are you even doing with your life? Best Nightcore & artist cooperation ever <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkiefan1287 610 September 27, 2013 Share September 27, 2013 (edited) I think that some of the stories are canon and some are not. Like Return Of Chrysalis book I think is cannon. Mostly because it something that could take place. While the Nightmare Rarity ark I don't really think is cannon. Not sure why. As for the side-stories I think they are cannon. We just learn a little bits of new information about the 6. Edited September 27, 2013 by pinkiefan1287 Made by Gone ϟ Airbourne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Bleck 19,366 September 27, 2013 Share September 27, 2013 (edited) @Khajiit- Actually, "A Canterlot Wedding" showed her simply zapping love/life force from Shining Armor using her horn magic, revealing a non-gory-but-still-dangerous method of feeding for the changelings. The comics? She went freaking TIMBERWOLF on a...thing...just to shut the CMC up! Edited October 3, 2013 by Anti-Villain By Emerald.↑ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulstor 254 September 27, 2013 Share September 27, 2013 I don't think they are officially canon. Though from what I've heard of one of the writers on either the brony show or a mlp:fim podcast I listen to, hasbro has to approve all the story lines they can't contradict it to much usually. I personally treat them as a separate thing. There is the tv universe where the episodes happen, some of the comic issues may or may not have happened. In the comics universe the tv episodes happened, but maybe not exactly as we saw on tv. Just my take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duidamasterXD 9,627 September 27, 2013 Share September 27, 2013 @Forlong, just letting you know that I've merged your thread with one that we already had for discussing whether we think the comic series is canon or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluttershutter 2,485 September 27, 2013 Share September 27, 2013 For the most part yes, I like them. But no, ponies don't have tv. Maybe they were just filming some news reels to go along with movies. Yeah, that's it. There are probably some more things that bug me but I can't think of any now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickelodeon 6 September 27, 2013 Share September 27, 2013 I would say that they're canon in the same way the Star Wars Expanded Universe stories are "canon", meaning they are basically canon, but if there's something from the main source material that contradicts a story from the comics, that story is automatically rendered non-canonical. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar Cube 4,843 September 27, 2013 Share September 27, 2013 (edited) Considering that the comic writers work closely with the show writers, the fact that it is an official comic endorsed by Hasbro, and also the fact that the comic purposefully tries to avoid storylines that are too similar to ones from the show, I definitely think the comics can and should be considered canon to some degree. I don't think the show and the comics will ever really reference each other, but it's a safe bet that the characters have experienced all of the events from the comics. The different events from the show and comic don't necessarily impact each other, but it doesn't hurt to say that the events have all taken place at some point. In one interview, the comic writers mentioned that Hasbro approves all of the storylines, and if a storyline is too similar to an upcoming MLP episode, then it doesn't get approved. I would say that's a good enough reason to consider the comics as canon. Edited September 27, 2013 by Sugar Cube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtakuBrony 349 September 29, 2013 Share September 29, 2013 Howdy folks! Dont know if the pony fans read the IDW Forums or EQD but starting with volume 13 Twilight will be her Alicorn self. I dont mind it but theres people still screaming bloody murder over Twilicorn. Scratching my head over the big deal over it. Meghan & Tara did say that Twilight will be the same but with wings. It should be a good story arc when the mane 6 faces pony pirates. See ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Brony (MG11) 218 September 29, 2013 Share September 29, 2013 One aspect that the comics really need to explain is the sexy-face applejack photo resting on Rarity's night stand. Yeah, lots of explaining... Posibility and Potential are my two favorite words. With the power of Turkish Kung-Fu! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idonotreallycare 94 September 30, 2013 Share September 30, 2013 I think it's already confirmed that the comics are non-canon, but from what I've seen of them, they seem fairly in line with the show's canon. I'm indifferent, as the most I've read of the comics are the previews. (I've been wanting to pick them up, though.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elyntrea 23 September 30, 2013 Share September 30, 2013 I dot see why they couldn't be considered canonical. I like how it can be used as a supplement to the show, and it adds to the depth of the characters and the richness of the story for those interested in learning more than what is seen on the show. I personally have enjoyed them. I would be fine either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelxXxTrixie 433 September 30, 2013 Share September 30, 2013 I am a firm believer that the Comic-Books are much better than the actual show. They are pretty much geared towards Bronies. Sure they don't have magical lessons that I can apply to my life very well. However, the writing is great, the action sequences are great, and I love the jokes and inclusion of background ponies. So of-course they should be cannon so long as they screw around with the actual shows timeline. Thanks to the lovely Pink Mist for the magnificent signature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest September 30, 2013 Share September 30, 2013 The comics are not canon. The comics are separate yet different from the show, meaning not related to the show's story in any way. How so? Has the same name and all. They are canon as shown in statements. How are they not related? Changelings... etc. Comics are canon to the show unless they are stated not to be or soley contradict the whole show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyubey 60 September 30, 2013 Share September 30, 2013 I don't think it really matters. You can assume that they're canon and you can assume that they're not. Until the TV show contradicts them or it's made clear that they are canon, it's really up to the readers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest October 9, 2013 Share October 9, 2013 Ive been noticing for a while that people dont seem to notice the comics existance, and how it relates secrets to what the show never has been able to get into. It might even relate secrets to season 4. What do you think. Are the comics darker than the show? Go on and tell us what your opinion is about the comics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cakebandit :3 1,064 October 9, 2013 Share October 9, 2013 Personally I love the comics specifically the return of Queen Chrysalis ones it really made me think Chrysalis eviler than in the show. and yea i'm my opinion they are darker than the show as well. I also really love the art style and facial expressions Worlds biggest batpony fan Signature by me :3 If you're reading this I've got one thing to say to you..... Hello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinter 3,064 October 9, 2013 Share October 9, 2013 I bought two today, Celestia's (interesting cameos xD) and the Cadence x Shining Armour one. With some of the references in the comics its clear they know adults will read it, hell, in the celestia one there are ponies bleeding from battle injuries. that would never happen in the show. I do know the comics are keeping Twilight as she is until they see what the show makes of her, so for now the comic is kinda the last bastion for those against twilicorn xD My OC's: Malinter, Rahl, Vengeful impact & alias-the-marked-one First fic i've written since forever here Skype: Malinter@Outlook.com "Defeating a sandwich only makes it tastier." most legendary quote ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest October 9, 2013 Share October 9, 2013 I bought two today, Celestia's (interesting cameos xD) and the Cadence x Shining Armour one. With some of the references in the comics its clear they know adults will read it, hell, in the celestia one there are ponies bleeding from battle injuries. that would never happen in the show. I do know the comics are keeping Twilight as she is until they see what the show makes of her, so for now the comic is kinda the last bastion for those against twilicorn xD Im thinking that the reason she isnt a alicorn now is that their still relating what happened in the past. They still havent arrived to the present show time in the comics. At the moment it ties in perfectly with the show now. Thats probally why the comics where created. To show things the MLP show could never show. Why? Children 12 and under wouldent get it. Comics arent that famous at all from a non brony fanbase. Taking in account im not a brony myself. But they are still nice. Waiting for issue 12 at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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