Winona the Dog 1,984 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 Overall, one of the best episodes of the entire series, ever, loved every single moment of it- Every. Single. Moment. 10/10 I'm a bit skeptical on giving this episode a perfect score. While it did leave quite the impression on me (Especially since it gave me Flutterbat) It does have it's flaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlight Lunamoon 109 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 Bats! just aired and Flutterbat is now canon. Brace yourselves for more fanfics piling up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metemponychosis 1,260 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 (edited) I have a question... During the song, when saying that the bats care for their young, Fluttershy uses "we"... "... just like WE ponies" Shouldn't it have been "... just like US ponies"? Edited December 28, 2013 by moonlightavenger https://www.fimfiction.net/user/32864/Metemponychosis For dumb, self-important fics about mythology, ponies and fascist griffons that can't figure friendship out. And I'm just getting started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skye 463 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 I liked this episode...but...was the whole Flutterbat thing is kind of odd to me.LOVED the song. Oh my god. That SONG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiance64 7,053 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 I'm a bit skeptical on giving this episode a perfect score. While it did leave quite the impression on me (Especially since it gave me Flutterbat) It does have it's flaws. Yeah, I guess they could have used Spike better for instance, and perhaps they didn't need to reuse the 'AJ getting ready to buck apples in the morning' sequence again, which might have been a bit lazy on the animator's part, but in terms of pure entertainment value, the way the other characters were used, the lack of annoying dialogue for the most part(a la Daring Don't), and the overall look and feel of the episode, I think they perfectly nailed what they were going for with this episode, for me anyway, and that's why I loved it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatwave 177 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 (edited) Ok, episode hasn't just barely ended. Level headed analysis: Positives: Flutterbat Dat Song AppleJack giving up prized apple to save friend Dat suspenseful ending Journal Entry Lesson Pinkie Pie Rainbow Dash's Cider Addiction Negatives: HOW fluttershy became Flutterbat Mane 5 completely ignorant of Fluttershy's wisdom with animals, even though it should be obvious Spikes "oh it was nothing" comment Overall, I'd say this is my favorite episode of the season. I loved every second of it. it kept me in suspense, while still feeling like season 1 all over again. Edited December 28, 2013 by Daring Bat 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~StatesTheOblivious~ 1,795 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 Oh, oh, alright, let's see what we have here...Um... Flutterbat, "Would somepony please think of the cider!" and Rarity panicking while wearing a decontamination suit... Lots of laughs... felt a tiny bit rushed, especially the conflict between Applejack and Fluttershy was a bit of a rush; I think it was simply too fast dealt with, but, you know, that's just usual pacing issues for you. And the song was... Naaaaah... It was okay, um... but I liked "Hearts Strong as Horses" more. Still a good episode, though. Not my favorite of this season so far, but good. "If men define situations as real, they are real in their consequences." - W. I. Thomas & D. S. Thomas Signature by Kyoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomadic 210 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 Ok, episode hasn't just barely ended. Level headed analysis: Positives: Flutterbat Dat Song AppleJack giving up prized apple to save friend Dat suspenseful ending Journal Entry Lesson Pinkie Pie Rainbow Dash's Cider Addiction Negatives: HOW fluttershy became Flutterbat Mane 5 completely ignorant of Fluttershy's wisdom with animals, even though it should be obvious Spikes "oh it was nothing" comment Overall, I'd say this is my favorite episode of the season. I loved every second of it. it kept me in suspense, while still feeling like season 1 all over again. Just because everyone keeps bringing it up. I actually found RD's mentioning cider after the first couple times actually rather annoying. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed it the nod towards the show's continuity. The writers could of easily toned it back a bit on that, but instead they kept hammering in that RD REALLY likes her cider. 3 OC Info: Monkshood, the Apothecary, Denarius, the Gambler (In Progress) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renon Strike 67 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 (edited) i also did find it funny that Pinkie Pie was smiling as she sang, i don't think she actually felt the same way as the others, she was just going along with the ride as usual. Edited December 28, 2013 by Renon Strike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revertz 159 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 The song was defiantly the highlight of the episode and Flutter bat was too cute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostfacekiller39 23,860 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 Just because everyone keeps bringing it up. I actually found RD's mentioning cider after the first couple times actually rather annoying. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed it the nod towards the show's continuity. The writers could of easily toned it back a bit on that, but instead they kept hammering in that RD REALLY likes her cider. I think it's more or less personal preference I mean, I'm willing to bet, by that Cider line alone he's a Dashie fan; while the Cider thing grated on me a bit as well, if it were Rarity making a reference to something she had done in a previous episode, I would've fan-boy squee'd and then mentioned it in my 3,000 character long reply/review 5 He who is Positively Obsessed With All Things Rarity!!! Check out the Rarity Fan Club! "Not everyone who is pretty is necessarily beautiful. For those two to come together is truly a Rarity" -Jacob G. Rosenberg Signature by @FadedSkies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokuc 8,173 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 I liked the episode a lot! I like how there was a different kind of song and the episode was not ridiculous like power ponies. I liked the whole story of the episode too, that the bats are all bad and stuff, though I disliked how the others didn't listen to Fluttershy when she said it would make the trees grow. Many people act like that ._. Pinkie Pie was so cute and funny in this episode x3 oh also, as others have said I'm not a big fan of the RD is obsessed with cider thing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonClaw 8,164 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 (edited) When i first read the synopsis for this episode, I thought somepony would get bitten and turn into a vampire pony. Glad to see I wasn't too far of... I really enjoyed the song this time around. I liked how Applejack and the others were draped in shadows, while Fluttershy was bright and colorful and looking for a more peaceful solution. You think Twilight would learn by now about using spells that completely and utterly alter the physical and mental make-up of something as complex as a living creature. Last time she tried this, the town ended up being devoured by parasprites, so did anyone really think this plan was going to go off without a hitch? Actually, it feels like Twilight is being given every possible chance this season to show off how much she's powered up since her ascension. Whether that's a good or bad thing I can't really say. And now we get to the "mane" event: Flutterbat. I could have never guessed that a show about colorful ponies could manage to be so terrifying. Seeing the sweet and innocent turned into something as scary as a Vampire Bat-Pony was straight up nightmare fuel, not helped by the constant use of shadows in this episode to add to the eerie factor. Though I have no idea why they felt the need to zoom in on her ear changing when that never came into play before she was changed back. About that last shot though...I think the show writers are just trolling us by this point. They know we've wanted something like a season long arc for a while now and would look way too far into everything (as we tend to do) so I have no doubt that they're just leaving as many loose threads dangling for us to bat at (pun unintended I assure you) and go 'What does it mean?" while never planning to give any kind of resolution. We know the box will get answered because it's directly tied to the plot, but as for the Pony of Shadows, the existence of an Enchanted Comic Book Store and now Fluttershy still having a fang will never be answered and may in fact be nothing more than red herrings meant to distract us from anything really important. Regardless, I can't find much at fault with this episode. This was a solid episode through and through and very much I enjoyed it. Though I have to wonder: if the vampire fruit bats don't eat apples anymore...what do they eat now? Has Twilight possibly doomed a species to starvation? We never saw her change them back like we did Fluttershy, unless this was just one big reversal and now the bats like apples again. Edited December 28, 2013 by PoisonClaw 8 MLPForums "Self-Proclaimed" Kamen Rider NutNow, count up your sins!I do Traditional commissions, by the way! See them HERE! Banner was done by the wonderful Kyoshi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dekutree64 713 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 OH SNAP! Fluttershy has retained an aspect of the bat? That is... foreboding. And also awesome. I have a feeling this is connected to the pony of shadows at the end of Castle Mania, and perhaps the mystery box too. I love this sort of Halloweenish vibe, and Flutterbat's design was great. The song was good too, definitely better than the last one. And Pinkie's "fruit bat roundup" was hilarious I find it amusing that both of Meghan's episodes this season feature short variations of Winter Wrap Up. The conflict felt a little bit forced to me, with both sides going overly extreme. Also the resolution, with Applejack sacrificing the prize apple just as bait. Why not just use a basket of regular size apples? After Rarity admiring herself in it earlier, I thought they were going to use the apple as a mirror to reflect the stare's effects. But no, they had plenty of mirrors.on hand -_- Pinkie's burrowing was pretty funny too. And after seeing that cross section of the ground, Applejack better count herself lucky that Rarity has never used her gem finding spell while at the apple farm Loved the callback to season 2 with Rainbow's cider addiction Maybe Pinkie has been trying to help her all along, by drinking it all up before she can hurt herself with it I also liked the callback to last episode's plot with Spike feeling useless. Maybe he's heading toward a major change this season, no longer feeling content living in Twilight's shadow? Speaking of Twilight... for a magical genius, her spells sure don't actually solve problems very often. But I guess it's a good lesson, that doing things the easy way often has unintended side effects. And the actual spell casting scene was pretty cool. Fluttershy seems to have gained full control of her stare, doing it on command in this as well as Keep Calm and Flutter On. Not sure how I feel about that... I kind of liked the more mystical aspect to it in Stare Master, and it would have been funny if she unintentionally used it on Applejack during their arguing instead, since she's the one who Fluttershy really wanted to control. Come on youtube, I need to watch it again 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winona the Dog 1,984 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 Yeah, I guess they could have used Spike better for instance, and perhaps they didn't need to reuse the 'AJ getting ready to buck apples in the morning' sequence again, which might have been a bit lazy on the animator's part, but in terms of pure entertainment value, the way the other characters were used, the lack of annoying dialogue for the most part(a la Daring Don't), and the overall look and feel of the episode, I think they perfectly nailed what they were going for with this episode, for me anyway, and that's why I loved it. I was going more along the lines of how everyone went with Applejack considering Fluttershy was the animal expert. Especially since after Keep Calm and Flutter on you'd think the others would at least give Fluttershy's idea a shot at the beginning. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomadic 210 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 I was going more along the lines of how everyone went with Applejack considering Fluttershy was the animal expert. Especially since after Keep Calm and Flutter on you'd think the others would at least give Fluttershy's idea a shot at the beginning. I think the biggest issue with it was actually, how quickly they rejected Fluttershy's side. I mean it seemed out of character for some of them just to jump on to Applejack's bandwagon without fully hearing Fluttershy's argument. I'm probably expecting way too much out of an half-an-hour episode though. 1 OC Info: Monkshood, the Apothecary, Denarius, the Gambler (In Progress) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerpyTacos99 115 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 Wow, just wow, so far each episode of Season 4 has brought with it a new level of awful, but this just takes the cake. That episode was just so horrible that I'm giving up on this series. Time to throw away all of my merchandise. I'm not sure I'll ever get the bad taste of this episode (and the rest of Season 4) out of my mouth for as long as I live. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Envy 6,154 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 (edited) This was a great episode that felt more like earlier episodes. That's not to say that I haven't enjoyed the episodes so far. I personally haven't found any of the episodes from this season to be weak. I just think that this is the best so far. Although I do have to admit that the Flutterbat concept was a bit strange to see in a cartoon aimed toward little girls. Pinkie Pie's random bright and cheery smiley face during that part in the song was hilarious... Classic Pinkie Pie. I wasn't at all bothered by Rainbow Dash's obsession with cider. I found it amusing and consistent with her attitude in the cider episode. Although I do find it strange that Fluttershy was completely on her own in her viewpoint. Edited December 28, 2013 by Envy 1 Everything needs more woodwind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiance64 7,053 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 I was going more along the lines of how everyone went with Applejack considering Fluttershy was the animal expert.Especially since after Keep Calm and Flutter on you'd think the others would at least give Fluttershy's idea a shot at the beginning. Yeah, I guess, I'm thinking they just really didn't like the bats and just wanted to get rid of them, but I didn't think the plan they went with was so bad at first. They did go with what she wanted to do after the whole shebackle though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forlong 1,726 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 Best Applejack episode, EVER! I like that they make AJ like Rabbit from the Winnie the Pooh cartoons. More info in my first impressions video: I enjoyed it and hope the rest of you did too. Check out my YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5qXAcUzrizEHvorGalU5jg?feature=watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FadedSkies 1,874 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 Well heres the song from the episode http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjkmV7HiUf4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M'gann M'orzz 745 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 This one was tied with Flight to the Finish for favorite of the season so far, though IMO the moral wasn't done all that well but goddamn the episode was just too much freaking fun for me to care about that. And the song was great too, very Tim Burton movieish. And I don't even like Fluttershy but Flutterbat was hilarious and great. RARITY IS THE BEST PONY EVER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winona the Dog 1,984 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 (edited) I think the biggest issue with it was actually, how quickly they rejected Fluttershy's side. I mean it seemed out of character for some of them just to jump on to Applejack's bandwagon without fully hearing Fluttershy's argument. I'm probably expecting way too much out of an half-an-hour episode though.Yeah that's what I'm getting act. Maybe If they tried Fluttershy's method and failed it would've went differently but I guess when Fluttershy first confronted the bats and failed the others decided to jump on With Applejack since the bats won't be convinced so easily. For the episode's sake they were playing hard ball. Yeah, I guess, I'm thinking they just really didn't like the bats and just wanted to get rid of them, but I didn't think the plan they went with was so bad at first. They did go with what she wanted to do after the whole shebackle though. Yeah but to be fair Fluttershy's initial confrontation with the bats didn't go well so maybe the others just thought they can't convince them that way. Still though the plan was kind of messed up. Brainwashing seems to be a recurring idea within the group. Edited December 28, 2013 by Tyler Blu Gunderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropical Flower 39 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 (edited) Is an HD version out yet ? I really want to seeEDIT: NVM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp4A9rpipYo Edited December 28, 2013 by Tropical Flower 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crystal Maiden 221 December 28, 2013 Share December 28, 2013 I loved this episode! The song was my favourite one of the season so far, and I really like how they've finally done an episode that focuses on Applejack and Fluttershy's friendship. But oh my god, Fluttershy being a vampire!! I wasn't expecting that, haha. xD It was quite creepy, but really cool at the same time. British Pegasister, aspiring writer, and dedicated Rainbow Dash fan. Creativity is life. ♥ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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