Why do anti-bronies call us the "cancer of the Internet"?

[ZethaPonderer 2,196]

Just now, Tilgoreth said:

And that proves what? That people have weird fetishes have all ways  had weird fetishs and will continue too do so? You can't make people not be attracted too something. If something offends you then don't go looking for it. Bronies are already a very small faction, and cloppers are even smaller.

Fun Fact, I wasn't even trying to look for it, hence the Safety Search On, No Clicking on Show More Results, and Google Searching strictly images of the Mane 6 characters of the show. These are proof I wasn't even trying to look for it in the first place. Weird Fetishes are one thing, but I would like it if people would NOT share this in the first place to people who are not interested at all. That in it of itself is fked up and claiming mental insanity.

So what you're saying is that it's perfectly alright to have sexual attractions to the Mane 6 characters? Pro-Beastiality much? People can change what they're attracted. I was attracted to many girls and conquered that funny feeling in my gut. It's called "Lust" and it will only kill you in the long run. People can control this right or am I the only one trying?

[Tilgoreth 1,915]

3 minutes ago, ZethaPonderer said:

Fun Fact, I wasn't even trying to look for it, hence the Safety Search On, No Clicking on Show More Results, and Google Searching strictly images of the Mane 6 characters of the show. These are proof I wasn't even trying to look for it in the first place. Weird Fetishes are one thing, but I would like it if people would NOT share this in the first place to people who are not interested at all. That in it of itself is fked up and claiming mental insanity.

So what you're saying is that it's perfectly alright to have sexual attractions to the Mane 6 characters? Pro-Beastiality much? People can change what they're attracted. I was attracted to many girls and conquered that funny feeling in my gut. It's called "Lust" and it will only kill you in the long run. People can control this right or am I the only one trying?

Actually I don't think lust is inherntley long. Were all just animals anyways so it doesn't matter. Also I assume you don't support freedom of speech.

[Pinkie_Pi 348]

They are cartoon characters.  Fantasy. None of the biblical sins apply.

[Tilgoreth 1,915]

1 minute ago, Pinkie_Pi said:

They are cartoon characters.  Fantasy. None of the biblical sins apply.

Biblical sins are meaningless anyways. Also too clarify I don't beilve in objective morality. So any arguments based on faith or basic human decencey won't work on me.

[ZethaPonderer 2,196]

Just now, Tilgoreth said:

Actually I don't think lust is inherntley long. Were all just animals anyways so it doesn't matter. Also I assume you don't support freedom of speech.

Oh I do believe in Freedom of Speech. Just not in the way you and most Americans do since bigotry and hate speech should not be protected under the law. What does it matter anyway America has violated its own constitution "Freedom FROM Religion, Freedom FROM Speech, and Freedom FROM walking since its The Land of Cars".

And no I don't believe we are animals. You're talking to a believer not an atheist so don't change the subject matter.

Why do you care anyway? I have no reason to hate you nor to the fandom, but judging by how you're coming across defensive and oblivious to my line of reasoning you're simply justifying my point.

[K.Rool Addict 718]

The brony fandom is cringeworthy. What else is there to say? They get so easily offended when detractors say something "mean" about their precious cartoon... it's equal parts pathetic and vexxing -.-

This is the reason I do not self identify as a brony. There is another name for my sub-division of the fandom  

[Tilgoreth 1,915]

1 minute ago, ZethaPonderer said:

Oh I do believe in Freedom of Speech. Just not in the way you and most Americans do since bigotry and hate speech should not be protected under the law. What does it matter anyway America has violated its own constitution "Freedom FROM Religion, Freedom FROM Speech, and Freedom FROM walking since its The Land of Cars".

And no I don't believe we are animals. You're talking to a believer not an atheist so don't change the subject matter.

Why do you care anyway? I have no reason to hate you nor to the fandom, but judging by how you're coming across defensive and oblivious to my line of reasoning you're simply justifying my point.

I didn't mean too come off as defensive. Also you were the one who said lust was a sin so you brought relgion into it first. And yes I see your point. It isn't good that little kids could find potentially pornographic material. However it is not the internets responsibilty too protect children, that falls on the parents. Also personally  I beilve in something a lot closer too absolute freedom of speech.

1 minute ago, K.Rool Addict said:

The brony fandom is cringeworthy. What else is there to say? They get so easily offended when detractors say something "mean" about their precious cartoon... it's equal parts pathetic and vexxing -.-

This is the reason I do not self identify as a brony. There is another name for my sub-division of the fandom  

I think that's just called being pretentious. I would fit right in.

[ZethaPonderer 2,196]

Just now, Tilgoreth said:

I didn't mean too come off as defensive. Also you were the one who said lust was a sin so you brought relgion into it first. And yes I see your point. It isn't good that little kids could find potentially pornographic material. However it is not the internets responsibilty too protect children, that falls on the parents. Also personally  I beilve in something a lot closer too absolute freedom of speech.

Actually you're the one that literally brought Lust as a sin. Nowhere did I ever implied that it was a sin in my post. Just that it could kill you in the long run and it's better not to develop it for your own health sake. Why do you care? Do you really buy it as a sin?

Well my interpretation of Freedom of Speech is on a moderate approach. As for the responsibility that falls on the parents and not the internet didn't I just proved that?

- Do Google Search of the Mane 6's Images

- Safety Search ON

- Don't click "Show More Results" just to elaborate my point further

I think the internet just needs a better algorithm to overshadow the "suggestive" material. You really need to read my previous posts Tilgoreth and my redemption post. All is forgiven really so I don't understand why we're arguing? This is all stupid... unless... o_O No... you can't be... please keep it to yourself. Have some decency some people are sensitive about this sort of thing. *Sigh* How could I've not noticed this any sooner? Your avatar speaks for itself.

My tin foil hat is constricting my head.

[Dark Qiviut 22,173]

@ZethaPonderer

A good chunk of those pieces of work you referenced fall into the line of saucy artwork. In short, suggestive, but not explicit enough to requite a NSFW tag. Out of all of those, probably only two would require a report to Google to hide it from view.

27 minutes ago, ZethaPonderer said:

So what you're saying is that it's perfectly alright to have sexual attractions to the Mane 6 characters? Pro-Beastiality much?

You don't understand what bestiality is, either. Bestiality means a human having sex with a real-life animal. These characters don't exist IRL, so it's not bestiality at all. Cloppers = bronies wanting to do it to animals is a really stupid comparison.

In short, you didn't highlight a plausible reason to dislike bronies. Instead, you helped kill that reason.

 

25 minutes ago, K.Rool Addict said:

This is the reason I do not self identify as a brony. There is another name for my sub-division of the fandom  

That subdivision you're talking about (and the people within it) are bronies, too. After all, a brony is nothing more than a fan of FIM; whether they try to vainly separate themselves from divisions within the fandom or not doesn't change that.

The reason you put in (some complaining when they dislike or bash the show) isn't good enough, either; and to generalize/stereotype the fandom at that doesn't help your point.

[ZethaPonderer 2,196]

3 minutes ago, Dark Qiviut said:

@ZethaPonderer

A good chunk of those pieces of work you referenced fall into the line of saucy artwork. In short, suggestive, but not explicit enough to requite a NSFW tag. Out of all of those, probably only two would require a report to Google to hide it from view.

You don't understand what bestiality is, either. Bestiality means a human having sex with a real-life animal. These characters don't exist IRL, so it's not bestiality at all. Cloppers = bronies wanting to do it to animals is a really stupid comparison.

In short, you didn't highlight a plausible reason to dislike bronies. Instead, you helped kill that reason.

 

Just because they don't exist doesn't mean the artists that drew this along with MLP Gen 4 were NEVER inspired by real life horses. That's like saying a person can draw a 12 year old anime girl very sexily and by your logic it would not count as pedophilia/hebephilia since it's just a drawing therefore it doesn't exist. Am I understanding this right?

I never said I disliked bronies, I hate the minorities (aka cloppers) and trolls who are WILLING to pervert the show for the ignorant masses. Don't put words in my mouth where they don't belong Dark Qiviut

[GrimGrimoire 4,970]

43 minutes ago, ZethaPonderer said:

However, don't be blind to the reality of what the minorities are truly doing in this fandom.

What exactly are they doing to it? Drawing pictures you and some others don't like. Oh noes! Call someone who can prevent you from seeing these things!

Here is a newsflash. This is not an MLP thing.. it is a google thing. It is also a female character thing.

Wanna know an easy way to tell? I took your approach and googled some names.

Princess Leia, Daisy Duck, Kim Possible, Daphne (then Daphne Scooby Doo because there are a lot more Daphnes out there an just that one), Tifa (I know I was asking for it on that one), Snow White, Elsa and Zootopia Judy.... and guess what? All of them had at least one questionable or suggestive image.  Hell I bet you could google Aunt May and find some shocking stuff... I don't have the courage though.

So at the end of the day your test proves nothing except that google allows suggestive stuff through their image search filters for female character sin general. I hope all those people hating MLP now are hating Star Wars, Disney, Hanna Barbera, and Video Games as well? It is the same old tired approach of telling someone what they can and cannot like and what you think is best for them. It has been going on forever and will continue forever.

 

[K.Rool Addict 718]

8 minutes ago, ZethaPonderer said:

That's like saying a person can draw a 12 year old anime girl very sexily and by your logic it would not count as pedophilia/hebephilia since it's just a drawing therefore it doesn't exist. Am I understanding this right?

^I hope you're not implying that this is in any way morally reprehensible.

Otherwise:

 

 

Oh yeah, this too:

^Don't for one second think the "cancer of the internet" is exclusive to FiM   

Edited June 12, 2017 by K.Rool Addict

[ZethaPonderer 2,196]

4 minutes ago, GrimGrimoire said:

What exactly are they doing to it? Drawing pictures you and some others don't like. Oh noes! Call someone who can prevent you from seeing these things!

Here is a newsflash. This is not an MLP thing.. it is a google thing. It is also a female character thing.

Wanna know an easy way to tell? I took your approach and googled some names.

Princess Leia, Daisy Duck, Kim Possible, Daphne (then Daphne Scooby Doo because there are a lot more Daphnes out there an just that one), Tifa (I know I was asking for it on that one), Snow White, Elsa and Zootopia Judy.... and guess what? All of them had at least one questionable or suggestive image.  Hell I bet you could google Aunt May and find some shocking stuff... I don't have the courage though.

So at the end of the day your test proves nothing except that google allows suggestive stuff through their image search filters for female character sin general. I hope all those people hating MLP now are hating Star Wars, Disney, Hanna Barbera, and Video Games as well? It is the same old tired approach of telling someone what they can and cannot like and what you think is best for them. It has been going on forever and will continue forever.

 

Actually it does prove ONE thing that some of you have yet to prove. It doesn't matter how responsible parents are when Google searching anything on the internet even with all the restrictions placed. A better algorithm needs to be implemented to overshadow the "suggestive" material.

3 minutes ago, K.Rool Addict said:

^I hope you're not implying that this is in any way morally reprehensible.

Otherwise:

 

 

It is morally reprehensible. I'm just using it as an example to prove my point and nothing more since it speaks for itself.

[Lenny 249]

On 7/9/2015 at 7:29 PM, PencilSketchPony said:

why? Seriously, I have seen anti-bronies call us this SO many times. And it doesn't make any sense! So, why do they call us this?

Because we are, everything that any anti-brony says HAS to  be true. 

 

They call us the cancer of the internet because they hate us. What a surprise

[Meeps 297]

Should it matter? In short, because society says adults (men especially) shouldn't like children's cartoons made for young girls that feature cute and cuddly ponies. The definition of macho does not feature colorful creations that detail the magic of friendship. And the percentage of self identifying bronies who openly practice the sexual objectification of the characters on the show will forever scar and be attributed to the fandom.

I won't go into the clopping debate, or whether fans are attracted to the characters or real horses, but the majority of the population already has their mind made up about these things, and it falls like a curtain over whatever fandom these people belong to. I'm sure a lot of people recall the backlash Zootopia (which was wildly popular for the most part) encountered with the whole furry thing. The movie was still popular, however, and I think it drowned out the negative voices for the most part. It also helps that it was created by a major studio, and catered to a wider age group.

[Maple Bat 3,568]

54 minutes ago, ZethaPonderer said:

Fun Fact, I wasn't even trying to look for it, hence the Safety Search On, No Clicking on Show More Results, and Google Searching strictly images of the Mane 6 characters of the show. These are proof I wasn't even trying to look for it in the first place. Weird Fetishes are one thing, but I would like it if people would NOT share this in the first place to people who are not interested at all. That in it of itself is fked up and claiming mental insanity.

So what you're saying is that it's perfectly alright to have sexual attractions to the Mane 6 characters? Pro-Beastiality much? People can change what they're attracted. I was attracted to many girls and conquered that funny feeling in my gut. It's called "Lust" and it will only kill you in the long run. People can control this right or am I the only one trying?

There's a problem with this though. You looked for images of the mane 6, Normal, But the problem is google doesn't filter any sort of content correctly, if you search for any normal Female character from any media you will get something inappropriate. Samus (Metroid series, Nintendo) is an extremely good example of this. People on the internet have weird ways of expressing themselves

Oh and for the record. I really hate the internet (Mostly google images)

11 minutes ago, ZethaPonderer said:

I never said I disliked bronies, I hate the minorities (aka cloppers) and trolls who are WILLING to pervert the show for the ignorant masses. Don't put words in my mouth where they don't belong

Very strong point here but that does roll back around to what I was saying earlier. You could just as easily find bad stuff for anything really.

[BastementSparkle 20,312]

12 minutes ago, ZethaPonderer said:

Just because they don't exist doesn't mean the artists that drew this along with MLP Gen 4 were NEVER inspired by real life horses. That's like saying a person can draw a 12 year old anime girl very sexily and by your logic it would not count as pedophilia/hebephilia since it's just a drawing therefore it doesn't exist. Am I understanding this right?

Even if artists are inspired by real horses somewhat for their clop art, I still wouldn't classify it as bestiality. For one, fictional pictures of a fictional character don't hurt anything, it's not the same as actually going out and screwing a horse. Two, the ponies in this show aren't just horses, they're intelligent, thinking beings. They're basically humans in magical horse form. Ponies like Twilight live in houses and read books and eat at restaurants and can have intellectual conversations about the value of Friendship. Real horses don't do that.

13 minutes ago, ZethaPonderer said:

I never said I disliked bronies, I hate the minorities (aka cloppers) and trolls who are WILLING to pervert the show for the ignorant masses.

As if fans clop art has any actual effect on the show...It doesn't.

[Jeric 46,835]

17 minutes ago, ZethaPonderer said:

Just because they don't exist doesn't mean the artists that drew this along with MLP Gen 4 were NEVER inspired by real life horses.

That's a logic that falls apart pretty quickly on just a cursory examination. Half of what you are stating appears to spurious, whether by design or not I'll let others judge. 

But hey, to each their own. 

[GrimGrimoire 4,970]

8 minutes ago, ZethaPonderer said:

Actually it does prove ONE thing that some of you have yet to prove. It doesn't matter how responsible parents are when Google searching anything on the internet even with all the restrictions placed. A better algorithm needs to be implemented to overshadow the "suggestive" material.

Why are you telling us about that? Why not take it up with google? Or does your crusade against smut stop at actually doing anything about it other than complaining on a family friendly forum?

What are you wanting us to prove? Googles search index sucks (at least for your needs)? I think you already covered that, why do we need to do it to? I don't see it as even remotely as much of an issue as you are making it out to be.

[Jeric 46,835]

14 minutes ago, ZethaPonderer said:

It doesn't matter how responsible parents are when Google searching anything on the internet even with all the restrictions placed. A better algorithm needs to be implemented to overshadow the "suggestive" material.

Too bad we don't have any parents on this forum to opine on this.

[ZethaPonderer 2,196]

4 minutes ago, RareBase said:

As if fans clop art has any actual effect on the show...It doesn't.

Ok gotta admit your point was well articulated on the whole drawing is not real fiasco so I will like that, but c'mon fans clop art having no effect on the show. Uh I beg to differ since those clop art are inspired by the show which in turn will give some people an uncomfortable mindset when watching the show. Granted this has been going on for as long as the internet was born, but still not all people can overlook this y'know nor do they wish to? Perhaps I'm still new on the internet despite using it all the way till 2008. I guess my naivety paid off for quite a long time. I just wish it lasted forever.  

[Dark Qiviut 22,173]

17 minutes ago, ZethaPonderer said:

I hate the minorities (aka cloppers) and trolls who are WILLING to pervert the show for the ignorant masses.

 

4 minutes ago, Maple Bat said:

Very strong point here

Not strong at all, actually. Clop art and clop fiction don't affect the show in any way. None of the work has any impact on the show's quality or rating. No matter how much some will like to shove NSFW art into others' grill, it still remains a family-friendly program.

[Maple Bat 3,568]

Just now, Dark Qiviut said:

 

Not strong at all, actually. Clop art and clop fiction don't affect the show in any way. None of the work has any impact on the show's quality or rating. No matter how much some will like to shove NSFW art into others' grill, it still remains a family-friendly program.

Fair enough my good friend

[ZethaPonderer 2,196]

Pretty Much K. Rool Addict. Just sharing my unnatural hatred that I "used" to have, but you know what Rafiki says in Disney's The Lion King? "It doesn't matter, it's in the past. Oh yes the past can hurt, but you can run from it or learn from it". At least I ain't running away from my past and facing it like a fighter. And good idea there GrimGrimoire. I wonder, do Bronies report whatever inappropriate content appears on any search engine?

[BastementSparkle 20,312]

3 minutes ago, ZethaPonderer said:

Ok gotta admit your point was well articulated on the whole drawing is not real fiasco so I will like that, but c'mon fans clop art having no effect on the show. Uh I beg to differ since those clop art are inspired by the show which in turn will give some people an uncomfortable mindset when watching the show. Granted this has been going on for as long as the internet was born, but still not all people can overlook this y'know nor do they wish to? Perhaps I'm still new on the internet despite using it all the way till 2008. I guess my naivety paid off for quite a long time. I just wish it lasted forever.

Well, they don't affect the show though. They might affect some people's perception of the show, but the show itself will continue as it is despite some people's perceptions. Just keep in mind that it doesn't matter how many people draw clop, it will never be a part of the show in such a manner, it's exclusive to fan content in the same way things like extreme violence or self-inserts are exclusive to fan content.

You shouldn't let the type of content some fans like to partake in alter the show for you, just watch and enjoy it for what it is, and enjoy the fan content you do like. I understand your issue with things like clop ending up in places it shouldn't be, but when kept in the proper places, there isn't really any issue with it.