Who is the most powerful character?

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On 1/1/2016 at 7:01 PM, Drunkfrank said:

Sadly, the tree is not a character, so I wouldn't count it.

Well, she really isn't that OP, if a Sombra (for example) powered villain shows up, starlight would be just as powerless against it as Twilight, as they are on an equal field.

the tree of harmony actually is a character a spirit of harmony and it take the form of twilight sparkle so I guess that the tree of harmony spirit aka astral twilight sparkle is also powerful

[Landi 597]

There are four characters that stand out to be the most powerful to me.

First is Discord. This is pretty easy to see as he can pretty much do anything. His only weakness is either to be manipulated or to be normal, so he's pretty much as OP as they get.

Then there are Starlight and Twilight. I consider these two to pretty much be on par with each other in terms of power. They both are unicorns that take their magical powers to the limit. Like Discord, they can pretty much do anything with a spell. Their weakness is that doing to many big spells in a short period of time is draining.

Lastly I'd say Chrysalis is a candidate for most powerful. She can turn into any being she so pleases, which basically makes her the ditto of MLP. Along with this, she can such ponies clean of their love and emotion, basically killing them in a sense.

I'd consider these four characters to be the most powerful in MLP. 

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19 hours ago, Landi72 said:

There are four characters that stand out to be the most powerful to me.

First is Discord. This is pretty easy to see as he can pretty much do anything. His only weakness is either to be manipulated or to be normal, so he's pretty much as OP as they get.

Then there are Starlight and Twilight. I consider these two to pretty much be on par with each other in terms of power. They both are unicorns that take their magical powers to the limit. Like Discord, they can pretty much do anything with a spell. Their weakness is that doing to many big spells in a short period of time is draining.

Lastly I'd say Chrysalis is a candidate for most powerful. She can turn into any being she so pleases, which basically makes her the ditto of MLP. Along with this, she can such ponies clean of their love and emotion, basically killing them in a sense.

I'd consider these four characters to be the most powerful in MLP. 

well the spirit of the tree of harmony is also powerful and it have taken a form of twilight sparkle

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Twilight looks really pretty!

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1 hour ago, Califorum said:

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Twilight looks really pretty!

that not Twilight it the spirit of the tree of harmony that took the form of twilight sparkle

Edited January 30, 2021 by Scootaloo90747475

[Astralshy 23,571]

For me there is only one name which comes to my mind: Discord

Yes, there are other very powerfull characters (maybe even with hidden still to discover powers) like Twilight, Starlight, Chrysalis etc. But there is only one character who demonstrated to have all power over reality. But he can be outsmarted, his powers blocked or removed. He is not invincible, but the question was "Who is the most powerfull character" and not the smartest and I really don't think Discord is the smartest charater in this show. So I stick with him, if I may.

There is of course still the spirit of Harmony who I know so little about I cannot put into my consideration. Pinkie breaking the 4th wall could maybe rival Discord, at least if she can do it at any time she wants.

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In my opinion, Discord is the most powerful character. Rivaling the princesses, he can mess up time, space, the molecular structure, etc. 

[Kadeda 178]

Discord and Twilight have similar type of magic... which can do a lot of different things. I think Twilight is stronger when it comes to power (being able to block discord spells, Her magic with 3 other alicorns is able to match or surpass Tirek who absorbs discords and most of equestrias)... but Discord is much more diverse (he can practically do anything). These are the only two characters I would consider when talking about the strongest character. The rest are behind these two one way or another.

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Discord, the dude is the closest thing this show has to an actual god.

[Evil Pink One 12,986]

The rocks..... They're the most op characters in equestria...... No kidding

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On 2021-04-17 at 6:17 PM, Kujamih said:

The rocks..... They're the most op characters in equestria...... No kidding

well the spirit of the tree of harmony is also powerful and it have taken a form of twilight sparkle and might be Discord equal in Magical Power 

Edited October 24, 2021 by Scootaloo9074090

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3 hours ago, Scootaloo9074090 said:

 

well the spirit of the tree of harmony is also powerful and it have taken a form of twilight sparkle and might be Discord equal in Magical Power 

yeah...the rocks....

[Neo_Shiron 56]

I'd say Celestia with max power is the most powerful creature in Equestria. We never really saw her with 100% and the "lost" battles were more or less because of the "mane 6 to the rescue" plot. So for story telling, she had to be shown weak while for story canon I think she held back to slowly teaching her ponies to fight for themselves.

 

Since Celestia defended Equestria for 1000 years, we can assume that she fought tons of villains and had a lot of time to master her magic to anything beyond unicorn possibilities. Since we don't know Celestia's true power, we don't know if/how she can counter timetravel spells (Starlight) or chaos magic.

However, even if Starlight's (fake?) timelines had been very messed up, we at least can assume that Celestia was able to defeat every single villain up to season 4, since we saw a Tirek timeline. Means, she defeated Nightmare Moon, Discord and Chrysalis in that timeline. The wasteland could have either been the Tirek timeline, a different villain or even a "Starlight's manipulation of time killed everyone" timeline like in Star Trek TNG (last two episodes). 

 

Number 2 would be Daybreaker, followed by Discord and Twilight.

Luna is not on this list, because she didn't have enough time to train/master all her possibilities like Celestia during those 1000 years

 

Tirek is a special case. He is weak without his magic sucking, but if he actually manages to get Celestia's magic, he might become even more powerful.

Starlight is another special case; she can timetravel and control others, but we don't know how Celestia would deal with it or if those spells have any effect on her. I mean, Celestia knew about the time travel spell but didn't bother to hid/destroy any traces of it (I'd at least hide it at a secret place, with many locks so that no one can get it)

Discord is the last special case worth mentioning. His chaos magic is very powerful, but he is mostly using tricks and mind games. Not sure how he would fight in a real battle.

 

The most powerful being could be the tree of harmony. However, it never fought against anyone (can't really call the killing of the fake 6 a battle) and we don't know if alicorn magic is stronger or weaker than the Elements of Harmony

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4 minutes ago, Neo_Shiron said:

I'd say Celestia with max power is the most powerful creature in Equestria. We never really saw her with 100% and the "lost" battles were more or less because of the "mane 6 to the rescue" plot. So for story telling, she had to be shown weak while for story canon I think she held back to slowly teaching her ponies to fight for themselves.

 

Since Celestia defended Equestria for 1000 years, we can assume that she fought tons of villains and had a lot of time to master her magic to anything beyond unicorn possibilities. Since we don't know Celestia's true power, we don't know if/how she can counter timetravel spells (Starlight) or chaos magic.

However, even if Starlight's (fake?) timelines had been very messed up, we at least can assume that Celestia was able to defeat every single villain up to season 4, since we saw a Tirek timeline. Means, she defeated Nightmare Moon, Discord and Chrysalis in that timeline. The wasteland could have either been the Tirek timeline, a different villain or even a "Starlight's manipulation of time killed everyone" timeline like in Star Trek TNG (last two episodes). 

 

Number 2 would be Daybreaker, followed by Discord and Twilight.

Luna is not on this list, because she didn't have enough time to train/master all her possibilities like Celestia during those 1000 years

 

Tirek is a special case. He is weak without his magic sucking, but if he actually manages to get Celestia's magic, he might become even more powerful.

Starlight is another special case; she can timetravel and control others, but we don't know how Celestia would deal with it or if those spells have any effect on her. I mean, Celestia knew about the time travel spell but didn't bother to hid/destroy any traces of it (I'd at least hide it at a secret place, with many locks so that no one can get it)

Discord is the last special case worth mentioning. His chaos magic is very powerful, but he is mostly using tricks and mind games. Not sure how he would fight in a real battle.

 

The most powerful being could be the tree of harmony. However, it never fought against anyone (can't really call the killing of the fake 6 a battle) and we don't know if alicorn magic is stronger or weaker than the Elements of Harmony

heck if she just moved the sun 5 inches closer to her enemies shed obliterate everyone XD

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1 minute ago, Kujamih said:

heck if she just moved the sun 5 inches closer to her enemies shed obliterate everyone XD

and the whole planet

 

lol, now I have to think about that one pic of Luna smashing the moon on someone XD

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On 2021-10-06 at 3:50 PM, Neo_Shiron said:

and the whole planet

 

lol, now I have to think about that one pic of Luna smashing the moon on someone XD

I think The Tree of Harmony and it spirit are too Powerful even celestia we don't see the Full Power of The Spirit of Harmony because it was watching Twilight and her friend and testing them to see if they are worthy to be the ruler of equestria

 

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On 2021-10-09 at 5:06 PM, Scootaloo9074090 said:

I think The Tree of Harmony and it spirit are too Powerful even celestia we don't see the Full Power of The Spirit of Harmony because it was watching Twilight and her friend and testing them to see if they are worthy to be the ruler of equestria

 

 

tbh, it would be interesing to see a Celestia vs Tree of Harmony battle.

 

Celestia

- Has more than 1000 years of knowledge (her own and of every event/book/movie... she learned of)

- Is a sentient being for over 1000 years

- Had fought many battles

- Used the Elements of Harmony

- Never fell victim to despair or any other dark alicorn trigger despite many traumas

- Can use many spells, including dark magic

 

Tree of Harmony (I just call her Treelight now)

- Has the knowledge of way over 1000 years (of all of Equestria and maybe beyond) -> Yes, I believe the tree is older than Starswirl. Their "seed" might have been a powerup, but they didn't create the tree of harmony (continuity/plot error)

- Just became a sentient being a few years (?) ago

- Powerful enough to defeat a dark alicorn, a chaos god and a powered up Tirek with almost all the magic of Equestria

- Uses powerful holy magic

- Grows stronger and stronger the more friendship, love and harmony are spreading

- Needs (or needed?) the Elements of Harmony to survive

 

Treelight chose Twilight Sparkle as her avatar, so it's likely that she also is a strategist, just like the real Twilight. However, Twilight was Celestia's student and Celestia ruled for over 1000 years, so it might be a tie

Strategist: 1:1

 

 

That's a difficult one. Treelight's weakness might be first; the Elements. Removing them would weaken her. I think even her later form will soner or later create new forms for the Elements and future bearers. Her second "weakness" is Equestria itself; only if there is harmony, love and friendship she will be powered up. However, since we're talking about real Celestia vs Treelight, it's very likely that a non-corrupted/evil Celestia would never ever harm her supjects.

 

Celestia has the power of the sun, dark magic and who knows what else. (Most likely all the spells created by ponies and other creatures she was able to talk to and/or study. Without a plot weakness, it's very difficult to tell how powerful she actually is, so just to be safe, another tie with a possible victory for Treelight as soon as there is harmony, love and friendship all around the world

Magical Power 2:2

 

Know it's getting interesting with many speculation. Assuming that Celestia and Luna had been real children (not 100 years old children) and maybe 10 years old, we can say that Celestia is at least around 1018 years old. (Just because Starswirl mentioned that Celestia still owns him some homework or similar. So when he disappeared, Celestia might have been a teenager. So I just say 18 years old)

So she has her life expirience and the wisdom of 1018 years and all the knowledge of Equestria and the people she met over that time, books she read and everything else

 

Treelight, from what we can assume, has the whole knowledge of way over 1000 years from every place where her roots/magic is. So from the whole knowledge level, Treelight now takes the lead

Knowledge 3:2

 

A quick victory for Celestia. She is a a living being with self-awareness since she was able to think. A sentient being from her birth.

Treelight just became sentient thanks to Twilight and the mane 6. We don't know how Treelight would react but for anytime soon, her newfound self-awareness is weak

Self-Awareness/Sentience 3:3

 

Not sure how to handle this one but I'll try my best.

Celestia has many different kind of attacks he can use. She has the strength of earth ponies, the agility of pegasi and a superior unicorn/alicorn magic. She can use spells with her horn (like levitation), spells with words (magic formulars that don't need concentration) and most likely also potions. So we can assume that she can many elements (including darkness and corruption) as well as supporting magic and banishing magic with three different ways of doing so (horn, chanting, potion). Moreover, she can use artifacts. She would be fast enough to avoit Treelight's roots while attacking her with different kind of spells. Maybe dark magic could have a stronger effect of Treelight?

 

Treelight herself doesn't have a physical form but the tree itself can acts as a body with Equestria wide roots. As a tree, Treelight can neither use artifacts (except of the Elements of Harmony as her fruits) nor potions. Her astral body might be able to use spokel spells. Moreover, she is a master of holy magic powerful enough to defeat a dark alicorn, a chaos god (?) and other enemies. The results are either banishing, killing or petrification. However, all enemies had been evil and/or corrupted by something evil. So would the "magic of friendship(harmony" even have any effect on Celestia? On the show's Celestia, it wouldn't but on the mirror world evil Celestia. However, with evil mirror Celestia, all the other topics would be different, too so it wouldn't actually count.

Knowledge on magic 4:3 (victory for Celestia) and 3:4 (victory for Treelight vs. evil mirror Celestia)

 

The main problems in this battle are the following:

1) Both, Celestia and Treelight are good characters/heroes. Treelight's magic might now even affect Celestia, even if Treelight would be way more powerful.

2) Since they both never had beel able to show everything they can do, we just don't know their limits...if they even have one

 

With a real body (not just a tree) and more time to learn about being sentient, Treelight would become an overpowered creature. However, if her limit would lie on using only holy magic, Celestia would still win since good alicorns are most likely immune to holy magic since they act as the embodiment of harmony

 

However, all of this is just a theory, so I could be completely wrong and Treelight is more powerful At least for me, I'll prefer to think that Celestia would win

Sadly (or luckily), we'll never know

 

(another wall of text for a theory. yep, I'm just like Twilight)

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42 minutes ago, Neo_Shiron said:

 

tbh, it would be interesing to see a Celestia vs Tree of Harmony battle.

 

Celestia

- Has more than 1000 years of knowledge (her own and of every event/book/movie... she learned of)

- Is a sentient being for over 1000 years

- Had fought many battles

- Used the Elements of Harmony

- Never fell victim to despair or any other dark alicorn trigger despite many traumas

- Can use many spells, including dark magic

 

Tree of Harmony (I just call her Treelight now)

- Has the knowledge of way over 1000 years (of all of Equestria and maybe beyond) -> Yes, I believe the tree is older than Starswirl. Their "seed" might have been a powerup, but they didn't create the tree of harmony (continuity/plot error)

- Just became a sentient being a few years (?) ago

- Powerful enough to defeat a dark alicorn, a chaos god and a powered up Tirek with almost all the magic of Equestria

- Uses powerful holy magic

- Grows stronger and stronger the more friendship, love and harmony are spreading

- Needs (or needed?) the Elements of Harmony to survive

 

Treelight chose Twilight Sparkle as her avatar, so it's likely that she also is a strategist, just like the real Twilight. However, Twilight was Celestia's student and Celestia ruled for over 1000 years, so it might be a tie

Strategist: 1:1

 

 

That's a difficult one. Treelight's weakness might be first; the Elements. Removing them would weaken her. I think even her later form will soner or later create new forms for the Elements and future bearers. Her second "weakness" is Equestria itself; only if there is harmony, love and friendship she will be powered up. However, since we're talking about real Celestia vs Treelight, it's very likely that a non-corrupted/evil Celestia would never ever harm her supjects.

 

Celestia has the power of the sun, dark magic and who knows what else. (Most likely all the spells created by ponies and other creatures she was able to talk to and/or study. Without a plot weakness, it's very difficult to tell how powerful she actually is, so just to be safe, another tie with a possible victory for Treelight as soon as there is harmony, love and friendship all around the world

Magical Power 2:2

 

Know it's getting interesting with many speculation. Assuming that Celestia and Luna had been real children (not 100 years old children) and maybe 10 years old, we can say that Celestia is at least around 1018 years old. (Just because Starswirl mentioned that Celestia still owns him some homework or similar. So when he disappeared, Celestia might have been a teenager. So I just say 18 years old)

So she has her life expirience and the wisdom of 1018 years and all the knowledge of Equestria and the people she met over that time, books she read and everything else

 

Treelight, from what we can assume, has the whole knowledge of way over 1000 years from every place where her roots/magic is. So from the whole knowledge level, Treelight now takes the lead

Knowledge 3:2

 

A quick victory for Celestia. She is a a living being with self-awareness since she was able to think. A sentient being from her birth.

Treelight just became sentient thanks to Twilight and the mane 6. We don't know how Treelight would react but for anytime soon, her newfound self-awareness is weak

Self-Awareness/Sentience 3:3

 

Not sure how to handle this one but I'll try my best.

Celestia has many different kind of attacks he can use. She has the strength of earth ponies, the agility of pegasi and a superior unicorn/alicorn magic. She can use spells with her horn (like levitation), spells with words (magic formulars that don't need concentration) and most likely also potions. So we can assume that she can many elements (including darkness and corruption) as well as supporting magic and banishing magic with three different ways of doing so (horn, chanting, potion). Moreover, she can use artifacts. She would be fast enough to avoit Treelight's roots while attacking her with different kind of spells. Maybe dark magic could have a stronger effect of Treelight?

 

Treelight herself doesn't have a physical form but the tree itself can acts as a body with Equestria wide roots. As a tree, Treelight can neither use artifacts (except of the Elements of Harmony as her fruits) nor potions. Her astral body might be able to use spokel spells. Moreover, she is a master of holy magic powerful enough to defeat a dark alicorn, a chaos god (?) and other enemies. The results are either banishing, killing or petrification. However, all enemies had been evil and/or corrupted by something evil. So would the "magic of friendship(harmony" even have any effect on Celestia? On the show's Celestia, it wouldn't but on the mirror world evil Celestia. However, with evil mirror Celestia, all the other topics would be different, too so it wouldn't actually count.

Knowledge on magic 4:3 (victory for Celestia) and 3:4 (victory for Treelight vs. evil mirror Celestia)

 

The main problems in this battle are the following:

1) Both, Celestia and Treelight are good characters/heroes. Treelight's magic might now even affect Celestia, even if Treelight would be way more powerful.

2) Since they both never had beel able to show everything they can do, we just don't know their limits...if they even have one

 

With a real body (not just a tree) and more time to learn about being sentient, Treelight would become an overpowered creature. However, if her limit would lie on using only holy magic, Celestia would still win since good alicorns are most likely immune to holy magic since they act as the embodiment of harmony

 

However, all of this is just a theory, so I could be completely wrong and Treelight is more powerful At least for me, I'll prefer to think that Celestia would win

Sadly (or luckily), we'll never know

 

(another wall of text for a theory. yep, I'm just like Twilight)

 astral twilight sparkle Might have unlimited power it a spirit of harmony the order to discord chaos

I don't Think that  astral twilight sparkle have a real body it just a spirit ( which it creepy ) inside a tree

Yin and yan