What the heck is the appeal in Trixie?

[Sunny Fox 5,951]

So you guess she did everything as a hobby? It's like saying Rarity only designed dress in her free time when she didn't go outside mining gems to get some income. Or that Pinkie Pie never works at the Sugarcube Corner.

 

I'm not making a definitive statement about "what I guess" at all. I'm simply challenging you to provide your evidence for your assumption that Trixie expects to gets money from her performances. By all means, if that evidence appears "in the episode's transcript," produce it, and I will happily concede the point.

Again. Another wild guess.

 

Not a guess at all. Mere inference. "The greatest equine who has ever lived." Trixie and Celestia are both equine, and if Trixie is the greatest equine, it is necessarily implying that she is greater than Celestia. There is proof that Trixie said that, and pure logic makes it all complete. In contrast, there is no statement made by Trixie by which we could infer through pure logic that she expects to make money from her performances. Or perhaps there is, and I simply missed it. In which case, you are welcome to point it out to me.

If you ever read the episode's transcript, you will know that Trixie only actively attacks after Rarity, AJ, and RD challenged her show.

 

I'm not arguing any differently. But I don't see the relevance of this.

[butter scotch 79]

Because Trixie makes Heavy's sandviches

I agree with the medic that Aurity posted

I AHVE NO IDEA.

[Chrysalisa 60]

Well, she only is Great and Powerful.

 

I mean yes, her personality could be a little bit... spruced up, but to me that's half the appeal to her. A lot of the fandom imagines her coming back to Ponyville, having corrected herself from who she used to be. And you couldn't have done that without starting off from someplace worse.

 

Plus I think it's funny to see her making others mad, it's like her ego is doing the trolling for her.

 

[Dreadmallon 353]

• Trixie has a very visually appealing color scheme.
• Trixie is a stage magician in a place filled with magic - this makes her an interesting character
• Trixie was an interesting antagonist in the one episode that she did appear in

I think that these are the three reasons that explain why Trixie has some dedicated fans.

 

 

 

In defense of the character of Trixie, she is a stage magician. She makes her living by putting on magic shows. I would imagine that her aggressive stage presence is one of the ways that she manages to draw a crowd to her events. If she was less confident and she was a pushover, then how would she ever be able to make a living in a place were magic is a boring, everyday occurrence?

 

You say that she was a liar, boaster, and a jerk, but, really, you have to keep things in perspective. She was putting on a show, and that show was her livelihood, her income. The mane 6, for all intents and purposes, were hecklers in the crowd. When you go to a circus, do you challenge the ringmaster's skills? Probably not.

 

I did once....I got hurt.

[starman117 19]

Well putting it bluntly, I think people have a fascination with her character because of the possibilities of her being able to change are endless. As you said, she only appeared in one episode, during of which she... well... did what she did (lying, over dramatizing, etc.) But there in on itself might be the source of why people have an attachment of sorts to her. She has characteristics that some people can relate to, mostly is that she just wants to fit in. Sure, she could've done a better job at trying to make friends, but never the less its an example of life for you. You have to live and learn from your mistakes in order for you to come back as a better person, and that's why people might like her. We all want to know if she will come back a changed person, whether its for better or worse. As I said the possibilities of her being able to change are endless.

Edited April 26, 2012 by starman117

[Pandy_C 30]

I'm not a fan personally but I can see how her confidence could be attractive, even when it crosses the line and becomes mere boastfulness

 

Plus she's a popular figure to 'ship with Twilight because of their major similarities and differences.

[Kaborer 164]

I won't be standing up for Trixie in any way, but I think she was funny. The way she just insisted that she was the best even when she had been proven wrong, made me laugh. to be honest I don't wonder why people like Trixie as much as I wonder why some poeple like Gilda, she was just bad-mannered in every possible way.

[ponyvangelist 732]

Guys like a girl with attitude, ergo Trixie.

[Whiteshade 1,426]

Trixie is basically a magnified Rainbow Dash, except she is in the villain role. I still like her though

[Literally Snails 2,307]

The show needs villians

[halcyonharlot 372]

You don't have to be a good person (or pony) to be a good character.

[Bunni 1,075]

[Starshine 16,334]

 

I'm not making a definitive statement about "what I guess" at all. I'm simply challenging you to provide your evidence for your assumption that Trixie expects to gets money from her performances. By all means, if that evidence appears "in the episode's transcript," produce it, and I will happily concede the point.

 

Just take a good hard look on Trixie's caravan, when she put the show and when it got destroyed by the Ursa Minor

You can clearly see that inside the caravan she got a whole bunch of clothes and various daily life needs. And if she did all of this for free, why the heck she needs to carry all those stuff with her? She travels to put on the show to get money from the audiences

Not a guess at all. Mere inference. "The greatest equine who has ever lived." Trixie and Celestia are both equine, and if Trixie is the greatest equine, it is necessarily implying that she is greater than Celestia.

 

You know what? She never said that she was the GREATEST equine. Get your fact straight, don't just make a guess just because you don't like her.

I'm not arguing any differently. But I don't see the relevance of this.

 

Without reading the transcript all you ever did was magic-guessing, it's already clear you have no idea what you're talking about

[Mr. Jaguar 1,403]

 

[Pony Joe 583]

I think that most of the appeal comes from the fact that it's entirely up to debate whether the Ursa Minor fiasco was her fault at all, and whether she truly deserved the rejection she got at the end of the episode.

 

And she's friggin' cute.

[Apple Bloom 2,933]

No post by Tom The Diamond yet?

 

Trixie has never been among my favorites. It's not because I dislike her personality, but rather, I don't find her as interesting as other one-off or background ponies.

[Lady Rarity Pony 4,892]

inb4TomtheDiamond

 

 

No post by Tom The Diamond yet?

 

I know right, I was thinking the same thing.

 

 

 

 

Trixie has one of the best designs. She's hawt.

[Pinkazoid 3,493]

 

now watch how Tom gets a wingboner.... without any wings xD

 

yeah Trixie wasn't the bestest pony (not according to Tom....) , but think about it like this:

 

Trixie is... complex. She has faults, but also strengths. She came in with a traveling magic show to earn bits and RD, AJ and rarity just started heckling her for... showing off. The Ursa lie, bad, as well as not dropping the showmare facade. But she DID try to fight the bear when those morons brought it in. She could have escaped and left them to die. And her wagon and all possessions were destroyed because of those two idiots, but again she did lie to them....

Now listen to this song and think about how she know has no home, possesions, and she probably didn't even have any friends.....

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTjDCRAVo-Y

 

Edited April 27, 2012 by Pinkazoid

[Tom The Diamond 1,830]

How has this thread managed to hide from the Eye of Tom? Seriously, I bet you ponies are making places where I can't find threads behind my back. Anyway, let us get onto the topic at hoof. This thread has been protected from me for too long. I'll start off by quoting some of the posts in this thread that I personally feel need a response. I also have the feeling this post will be a rather long one, so as such I shall be spoilering it to conserve page space and to nicer to those who still have dial up internet.

 

 

Honestly! Why do a bunch of people like Trixie?

1. She is only in 1 episode.

She technically made a cameo in Ponyville Confidential. So that's 2. Not to mention the official toys that are being made of her. And anyway, the fact that she has left such an impact in so many fan's hearts and only starred in one episode must mean that she was a great and memorable character.

 

2. She is a liar, a boaster and a jerk overall.

She did her lying and boasting on a stage, as a stage magician. Why? To attract a crowd. Because ponies want to see big amazing actors, magicians, etc. If she didn;t stretch the truth a bit, how would she manage to stir up a crowd? Might I remind you that Equestria is a world where Magic is commonplace. So being able to preform magic really isn't anything special. Now, being a great and powerful magician capable of great magical feats, however, is a different matter. Ponies would be interested in seeing that.

 

3. And most of all she attacked any of the Mane 6 who stepped up to show there productive skills.

First of all, she did not attack the Mane 6. She let Applejack, Rainbow Dash, and Rarity challenge her. They went up there willingly, with intent to ruin her show, and she was able to upstage them. And I'm sorry, but if I was preforming a show and ponies in the audience were heckling me, I'd want to upstage them too. I'm sorry, but it's kinda rude o go to a show and just try to ruin it for everypony enjoying it.

 

If you watch the episode, you'll notice that the rest of the ponies there were clearly enjoying her show. If the Mane 4+Spike really didn't care for it, they could have easily walked away, and none of the events in the episode would have never happened. Trixie would have gone on her merry way, the Ursa Minor would still be napping, Snips and Snails would have enjoyed their magic show, Bon Bon's house would not have been damaged, and neither would Trixie's wagon.

 

And just for the record, it was Spike who gave Snips and Snails the idea to awaken the Ursa Minor, so technically this is all Spike's fault.

 

 

 

 

 

Goodness, that is a beautiful picture of Trixie. It Truly is! <3

 

I think the perceived huge Trixie fandom is skewed a bit by the fact that the guy from Equestria Daily is obsessed with her

While I can personally say that Equestria Daily had no effect in me choosing The Great and Powerful Trixie as best pony, I will not deny that if she was not the unofficial mascot of EqD, she would not be as popular as she is now. I mean, The Flim Flam Bros. and Iron Will had some entertaining personalities, and they're not as popular as Trixie.

 

Granted, this could also be because our fandom is sexist towards male characters so much that most shipping is exclusively female on female.

 

I do want to see some more Trixie though. I wonder if she'll be a recurring villain with a grudge for Twilight, or if she learned her lesson at the end of Boast Busters?

I personally would prefer her to be the former, simply due to the fact that she really has little to redeem herself of. I personally think she would make a perfect rival to Twilight. Her personality is pratically made for her to be one. See; Gary Mother Bucking Oak.

 

Also, I prefer a strong, self confident and proud Trixie as opposed to the Woona Fluttershy rip off most of the fandom love to slap onto her.

 

I think people like her ironically. In the sense that no one likes her, so those select few have to show her support. If that makes any sense.

 

See these headphones?

 

I made them.

 

And these are not headphones one makes out of irony. These are headphones made out of love.

 

Of Love.

 

 

 

• Trixie has a very visually appealing color scheme.
• Trixie is a stage magician in a place filled with magic - this makes her an interesting character
• Trixie was an interesting antagonist in the one episode that she did appear in

I think that these are the three reasons that explain why Trixie has some dedicated fans.

 

 

 

In defense of the character of Trixie, she is a stage magician. She makes her living by putting on magic shows. I would imagine that her aggressive stage presence is one of the ways that she manages to draw a crowd to her events. If she was less confident and she was a pushover, then how would she ever be able to make a living in a place were magic is a boring, everyday occurrence?

 

You say that she was a liar, boaster, and a jerk, but, really, you have to keep things in perspective. She was putting on a show, and that show was her livelihood, her income. The mane 6, for all intents and purposes, were hecklers in the crowd. When you go to a circus, do you challenge the ringmaster's skills? Probably not.

 

Scootacool, every single post you make is a work of art in itself. This one is the Mona Lisa of all of your posts.

 

She's an interesting character and I can only assume people want to see her have a greater story arc and feel that she can develop further as a character... Or maybe people just think the name Trixie is hot or something

Yes, her name is one of the many flawless things about her. The Great and Powerful Trixie is a very alluring name, and Patricia Lulamoon is also a very classy name.

 

to be honest I don't wonder why people like Trixie as much as I wonder why some poeple like Gilda, she was just bad-mannered in every possible way.

This. The mane difference between Gilda and Trixie was that Gilda broke the law, made Fluttershy cry, and was just generally unpleasant in every way unlike Trixie, who was challenged on her own show. And then, when an Ursa attacked, she did at least try to stop it, as the Mane 6, the ones who defeated a goddess, just stood there and watched as Trixie put her life on the line for try and stop a monster from attacking a town she was just visiting and had no connections with and could really care less about.

 

No post by Tom The Diamond yet?

inb4TomtheDiamond

Sorry, I didn't know this thread existed until it was brought to my attention! Though I wouldn't be surprised if somepony invented a machine that hid Anti-Trixie threads from me, so ponies could talk against Trixie without my knowledge... I better start looking more diligently for these topics now...

 

 

now watch how Tom gets a wingboner.... without any wings xD

One does not need wings to be amazed by Trixie's beauty

 

I mean, erm... Actually, never mind, I'll stand by my above statement.

 

Anyway, to summarize this up, Trixie is a proud, intelligent, charming, amazing, brave, self-confident, beautiful, egotistical, and alluring mare. She may have had an antagonistic role, though I personally see this as a plus. In almost every media I've seen the villian is far more fun and interesting then the hero. And Trixie is no exception. Quite frankly, I'd love for the day when they make a Trixie spin-off show centering around her. Or better yet, a portal to Equestria gets built and I go through, so I can experience her adventure with her first hand(Hoof?)

 

And that, my little ponies, is why The Great and Powerful Patricia Lulamoon is best pony.

 

 

Alright, so eh, not as long as I expected, but oh well, I do believe my message has been made.

Edited April 27, 2012 by Tom The Diamond

[Randomiser 115]

I'm not particularly a fan of Trixie, but she's a good character in the same way that all of the antagonists are well-developed. And I can see her dominatrix attitude as appealing.

 

I have to agree with everyone who said the mane 6 acted out of line by immediately attacking Trixie. We don't get to see what her act was supposed to be because it was interrupted by the others. Chances are, she wasn't planning on putting anyone down, she must be able to perform some impressive tricks to have gained recognition in the first place. But they don't give her a chance to prove herself. She does act conceited offstage, but when she does she is keeping up the reputation that caused ponies to have interest in her at all. I don't like that she was disrespectful to Twilight at the end, even though she and her friends disrespected Trixie's talent first.

 

I can't hate her for what she does. Ponies like to see her, Trixie is doing it for entertainment. Putting on a good show is her special talent. I find it odd that Applejack tells Twilight, "Your magic is a part of who you are, sugar cube, and we like who you are. We're proud to have such a powerful, talented unicorn as our friend." So, they'll accept Twilight's magic because she's a friend, but they won't accept Trixie for who she is?

[NeverNeverland 1,940]

Harrrrrrrrrrrrrgh...

 

FIRST RULE OF TRIXIE LOGIC

YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED AN OPINION

 

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[Sunny Fox 5,951]

Just take a good hard look on Trixie's caravan, when she put the show and when it got destroyed by the Ursa Minor

You can clearly see that inside the caravan she got a whole bunch of clothes and various daily life needs. And if she did all of this for free, why the heck she needs to carry all those stuff with her? She travels to put on the show to get money from the audiences

 

She is traveling, so she has all her stuff with her. This would be true whether or not she was getting money from her shows. And it would have been extremely simple for the writers to have made the issue clear with a single line anywhere talking about money. They did so in the episode Putting Your Hoof Down with Iron Will, so why not here? ("Stomp if you want to pay nothing for this seminar!" at 8:13; "Iron Will is here to collect Iron Will's fee!" at 17:54; "Now pay Iron Will what you owe Iron Will!" at 19:33) Find one equivalent line in Boast Busters, and I will accept your premise.

You know what? She never said that she was the GREATEST equine. Get your fact straight, don't just make a guess just because you don't like her.

 

 

Without reading the transcript all you ever did was magic-guessing, it's already clear you have no idea what you're talking about

 

Did she or did she not say the words "...or is Trixie destined to be the greatest equine who has ever lived?" at 5 minutes 20 seconds or so into the episode? I know that she did from watching the episode, with no need to read any transcript. And the implication of that line is exactly as I have stated in my previous post.

 

If you are willing to have a rational discussion with me, rather than insulting me, then I will respond. If not, then I will not waste your time or mine any further.

[Crystal Sparkle 344]

Despite what she put my TwiTwi through, I still like her, there's something about the way she acts that's so funny to me and her voice matches her personality...however I still feel she's on the overrated side of things.

 

But Twilight will always be the more powerful unicorn...and Trixie better never forget it!

[Arylett Charnoa 4,919]

I don't know either. Honestly, this is one of those weird things about the fandom that will always elude me. I mean nopony any offense, but I see some of the justifications for liking her as somewhat... based more so in fandom views than what actually shows up in the canon. I don't see Trixie as a complex character, really. She's just a one-off villain who appeared in one episode, and is a common stock character type on children's television shows. The only reason that makes sense to me is her aesthetic, which I have to admit is nicely made.

 

And I suppose the magician in a world full of magic makes sense. I can see this as being a reason for mildly or casually liking her. As well, she's a Large Ham. And people tend to like those who just ham it up on screen. (Though Rarity really hams it up even more than Trixie and I don't see her having as intense fans.) But these levels of intensity that fans reach is truly baffling.

 

And there's that Equestria Daily guy. I guess people follow after him as well.

 

I have to agree with NNL though that Trixie Logic doesn't allow others to disagree. Those who like her with such intensity often annoy me because of how insistent they become towards anyone who doesn't like her. (Even if it's a joke, it stops being funny rather quickly and just becomes excessive at that point. At least to me.) The fact that there are so many people intense about her makes her even less appealing to me, when I was previously neutral/uncaring about her character.

 

This is something I've generally noticed as well: she doesn't seem to really have the same popularity amongst female fans as males. I've met many male Trixie fans, but not very few females. (And yes, I DO observe many pegasisters on DeviantArt in spite of the gender ratio here being crazy skewed.) It's just a general observation, and might not be true, but I find it interesting that males would be more interested in arrogant and jerky characters. (Rainbow Dash is also very popular amongst the male fans. She's not as much a jerk as Trixie, and has redeeming qualities, but can be very arrogant.) I kind of have to wonder why that is.

Edited April 27, 2012 by Arylett Dawnsborough

[Inkfeather 597]

The thing I find intriguing about the personality of Trixie is simply the dominance of her natural behavior. She likes to boast and she loves to be herself, it's a great strength to like being the one you are. Her illeism is also a thing I like about her, her voice and the way she speaks is something I find rather cute. To the point about her personality, yes she's a somewhat simple character in the show, she's just a one-go villain, but I don't feel that she's JUST that. You could make up many theories about why she has the personality she have, and yet come out with reasons both nice and somewhat "bad".

 

Well, to the reason why I like her.

It's simple; she's powerful, not as in physically, mentally or socially powerful. She've got a powerful and dominating personality, something I find extremely rare when it's to such a degree as hers. It's a somewhat wish of mine to have her as a friend, I think it would be interesting to be a mate of hers, since her personality would accept others if they were willing to give her their encouragement. I also think that her personality is very unique and not as evil as people make it out to be, she was able to admit a mistake, she was actually able to be humble about something, yet her norms took the better of her in the end and she ran off because she was too afraid to face the ponies she had ridiculed. She’s also more complex that people make her out to be if you analyze all the small details of what she do, someone as boasting as her would prefer to be surrounded by fans like Rainbow Dash did in the Mare-do-well episode, yet Trixie dismissed both Snips and Snails, meaning she’ve had reason to do this. This could be a sign that she takes on a somewhat façade personality when she’s on stage, to make herself look more confident in what she does, and thereby drawing on the energy of the cheerful crowd to support the show.

 

I base this theory on the fact that she broke this stage personality when she lost, when she had to admit her mistakes, at this point, the REAL Trixie shined through, the Trixie who’s actually a nice mare.

 

To me, I like both her personalities, both the “stage façade” as well as her “real self”. I’m a somewhat submissive type of person, meaning I would socially fit well as the friend of a dominative type such as Trixie in her stage personality.

Edited April 27, 2012 by Inkfeather