Queen Chrysalis: Truly evil or just misunderstood?

[Anadu Kune 668]

'Imma sing a song about how much I'm enjoying taking over this city, ruining the lives of countless innocents, and destroying a marriage so I can steal the husband and feed my young. I clearly enjoy everything that I'm doing, but, you know...I'm not evil, I'm just feeding my kids :3'

 

Yeahno. Chrysalis is a heartless bitch. She enjoyed every part of taking over Canterlot, clearly seeks domination over all of Equestria, and has no consideration for others. She feeds her kids to survive and because she wants her species to rule, hell, she -might- have some weird, obscure motherly love for them too, but the bottom line is she's conquesting because she wants to rule, and has no issue with-no-enjoys stepping on every other species along the way :3

 

She's a classic villain.

She didn't merely enjoy that moment, she had dreamed of it for quite some time according to her song. It was after all the day of which she dreamed since she was small. That goes a bit further than just enjoying something. She lived for that moment. So yeah that just strengthens the point. She is pretty freaking evil. 

[Stormwind 53]

That may be true, but she cannot justify her actions. Changelings seemed to be doing fine before the attack (or at least from what the show tells us), and Chrystalis was seeking POWER not just sustenance.

[Scootalove 10,689]

Well, to me she is a villain. She sang a very sadistic song about feeding on love, and was about to take over with her Changeling army. Besides, all villains have a motive on what they do.

[TwilizzleFoShizzle 95]

No, what I'm implying is that if they had attempted diplomacy and that had failed then it would be a reasonable assumption to make that the suspected attack would be coming from them.

maybe depending on how it failed, it could've failed by a polite decline from celestia or in a spectacular explosion. Also, a severe failure would result in them being a suspect, butequestria has more than 1 enemy

[Rain Dance 131]

'Imma sing a song about how much I'm enjoying taking over this city, ruining the lives of countless innocents, and destroying a marriage so I can steal the husband and feed my young. I clearly enjoy everything that I'm doing, but, you know...I'm not evil, I'm just feeding my kids :3'

 

Yeahno. Chrysalis is a heartless bitch. She enjoyed every part of taking over Canterlot, clearly seeks domination over all of Equestria, and has no consideration for others. She feeds her kids to survive and because she wants her species to rule, hell, she -might- have some weird, obscure motherly love for them too, but the bottom line is she's conquesting because she wants to rule, and has no issue with-no-enjoys stepping on every other species along the way :3

 

She's a classic villain.

That's what i cal going on hard hehe.

 

And for the thread, i kind of agree with Chaotic Discord hehe, i don't really think shes doing he for her childrens good. Mostly for her own good to rlue all over Equestria.

[GrooveBroove 680]

Chrysalis at this point is definitely a classic villain archetype.

Sure she needs to feed her subjects, but if they wanted to angle her as to not being evil they could have easily.

Such as putting her in a direction where she knows what she's doing is wrong, but it's the only way she knows how to do things.

Regardless Chrysalis especially with Discords turn to the good side, stands as the best villain IMO currently in MLP.

Her comic arch was great and hopefully her return into the show will be a big deal and handled epically.

[Sunny Fox 5,950]

As I understand it, the Changelings' desire to "eat" the love of Equestria is not so much a matter of survival. The Changelings we see do not look weakened by hunger in the slightest, they can divebomb, change shape and fight. Also look at these quoteables:

 

Cadence: "She's a changeling. She takes the form of somepony you love and gains power by feeding off your love for them."

Chrysalis: "Equestria has more love than any place I've ever encountered. My fellow changelings will be able to devour so much of it, that we will have more power than we have ever dreamed of!"

"Shining Armor's love for you is even stronger than I thought. Consuming it has made me more powerful than Celestia!"

 

My point in all of this is that Chrysalis is mainly after power and control, not desperately trying to find a source of food for the sake of survival of her species. (A side note: "fellow Changelings" doesn't imply a family bond. I agree with Magic Man that there is nothing to prove she is the mother of any of the changelings.) So she can't avoid being a villain, and not even a very sympathetic one. Of course, I haven't read the comic and things may be shown further in Season 4, but for now, I can't agree with the OP.

[ManiacForPonies 27]

I actually thought of that at some point. But she clearly seems to be enjoying causing all the pain and trouble. I mean she has some reasons to do it but you also have to consider that when she sings (as herself) in "A Canterlot Wedding: Part 2" She seems to really just want to be in control of Canterlot. 

[Pinkazoid 3,493]

Really?

 

Even if you are doing this to take care of your own specie's lives, you're destroying lives of others, only to continue destroying more.

 

I'm not sure if to consider her a villain, but she's evil alright.

[Thunderlight 41]

If she wouldn't be villain, the she would have asked Celestia about making new place for chancelings. If she wouldn't try to mess up marriage event and not being evil, then she wouldn't be villain.

 

But with all respect: you are wrong. She is villain.

Edited May 3, 2013 by Thunderlight

[lightdisk 0]

To me Chrysalis is Like Revan

 

She just pretending to Be Evil

 

She an hero wear mask of Villan Just like Revan

 

However My Revan Theory make whole sense really She Protect Ponies From Even Greater Evils just Like Revan

 

However Changeling have no Real sense of Morality,They are Really Blue and Orange

 

Chrysalis Counterbalance no Morality with Duality

Edited August 24, 2013 by lightdisk

[Scootalove 10,689]

She is just truly evil, plain and simple. The only way you could feel sympathy for her, is if Chrysalis was trying to help herself and her army of Changelings survive without feeding on love. They basically feed on love like vampires, in which she decided to gloat on how she wanted to take over Equestria, and she even trapped Celestia in a cocoon. Now, that is downright evil.

[Zygen 6,066]

Well, technically chrysalis isn't evil, but she isn't good.

 

She's a parasite, meaning that she feeds off things.

 

However, being a parasite she can't be exactly out into a pony society, that's like inviting some heart worms to live with your dog.

 

So while she's not exactly evil in the general sense being a parasite, she's still not someone to befriend.

 

She also has a very evil feel to her, and despite being a parasite she still does a good bit of rude and mean things.

 

Anyways point is, whether she's good or evil is irrelevant, she's a parasite and feeds off love, which is abundant in ponies in equestria, therefore you can't just befriend her realistically, anymore then you could something like, idk a tick or a dog a heartworm, or just any parasite.

 

You get the idea .

 

I still see her as evil, to simply things kinda.

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

I have a theory I put together for use in the cannon of one of my stories.

 

The changelings started out peaceful, they were healers, teachers, performers, anything that could allow them feed on rightfully earned love. They lived like this for possibly centuries, until they were found out and attacked by a group that though them monsters, they were slaughtered and their home razed. Chrysalis and the survivors grew to hate the world for what it had done, that hatred corrupted them and turned them into the very monsters the world though they were. 

[MichaelxXxTrixie 433]

She's straight up evil, she is actually to me more evil than Discord.

 

If anyone has read the comic books she pretty much sucked all of the love out of an entire civilization of innocent creatures to get more powerful and then kidnapped the CMC all with the intent of getting stronger so she can take over.

 

If she really was "Good" she'd be capable of making some sort of agreement with Celestia, because Celestia could find a way they could get love.

[Crazydud619dx 30]

She is evil, no doubt about it. She nearly took over Canterlot, along with her changelings. She fed off of Shining Armor's love for Cadence that allowed her to beat Celestia when she revealed herself; and to insult to injury, she trapped her in a cocoon.

Her intentions were evil, and I don't really think she's misunderstood if she is feeding off over other people's love to survive 

[Cwanky 17,572]

I think nearly everyone here can agree that Queen Chrysalis, as well..a queen, is understandably justified in trying to feed her kingdom of Changelings when they tried to manipulate and influence Canterlot and Equestria. You can't make a tiger into a vegetarian any more than you can make a turtle run. 

 

The problem here is not the Changelings, but Chrysalis' motives and intentions themselves. She not only wants to feed her children, she wants to take over Canterlot and Equestria in the process and torment and enslave ponies like Shining Armor and encase people in cocoons. Never once did she even consider asking nicely, or explaining the situation. She simply tries to force her way through to achieve her goals no matter who's hurt, or killed like the cat people in the IDBW comics, in the process. That's purely Machiavellian. This puts her in a similar category with General Zod, especially in the new Man of Steel film where he tries to terraform Earth so that it may be colonized and suitable for Kryptonian life. No matter how understandable and justifiable his goals were, the means he used to achieve them were wholly unacceptable by our standards. If you haven't watched the film already then go watch it by all means.

 

This is why I distinguish Chrysalis so much from someone like Discord. Whereas Discord regards his actions as fun and plays with his adversaries, Chrysalis has bloodlust in her eyes and fully intends to torment, harm and destroy anyone who gets in her way knowingly. 

[pinkiefan1287 610]

Is Queen Chrysalis evil?

 

Yes, she is 100% pure evil.

 

Chrysalis kidnapped, manipulated, sang an evil song about her plain and just staying that she was evil, defeated the ruler, tried to comment genocide, and he the comic commented genocide on a peaceful race, and took over their land to. 

 

 

 

Welp, she might got a rather bizarre approach, but she did everything just to feed her children. You can't blame a tiger for killing a goat when she wanted to feed her cub.

 

True you can't blame a tiger for killing anything, but a tiger is a little different from Chrysalis. A tiger does not have emotions or won't feel sorrow for what they killed. Chrysalis is a being that has emotions and can think for herself. So you can't compare these 2 things together.

Edited August 25, 2013 by pinkiefan1287

[Misty Shadow 7,854]

After the comic book saga...yeah, I can't see her returning to the series as a misunderstood soul. Even though the most sinful of creatures can be graced with a bit of good, I prefer to believe that she's moreso evil than misunderstood.

[Gear Head 25]

I think she was just misunderstood.  She and the changelings were the only beings who truly knew loneliness, which is why they constantly seek love from ponies, the most loving of all races in Equestria.  I believe Chrysalis made a huge sacrifice by having to give up her own life to feed and protect her people.

[~Silver Essence~ 2,625]

I have been noticing this lately.

 

She is a queen who feeds on love, which you think would be a good thing because she's absorbing something positive, but she's using it to her own advantage.

 

At the moment, I'm still not sure if she was truly evil.

[Hive King 2,001]

Why do so many people claim that Chrysalis was not evil? They say that she just wanted to feed her subjects. If that's the case, why did she leave ponies to die in horrible ways(starvation), kill kittens for no good reason and taunt Twilight in the caves? 

 

Also, where does this excuse that the Changelings are underfed comes from? There is no evidence for this at all, Chrysalis just said that Equestria had lots of love, not that they needed it

[Empress Pinkamena 41]

I don't really understand it either.  People just want to find ways to excuse villains they like.  I like Chrysalis too, but she has no excuse for the horrible things she did.

[ghostfacekiller39 23,860]

I sorta felt that way myself for a while, honestly, but then I thought about how much like insects Changelings are.

 

I think Changelings are like a Hive Mind; QC is like a Queen Bee or Queen Ant to them. The rest, besides her, are little different and do nothing but work, but, without those workers, the whole hive/colony would die, the queen along with it.

 

It can be said, that, on top of what you said, that she only wanted to save her subjects because of how insect-like changelings are, and, without them, she'd have nothing to support herself, like a Queen Bee would have no means of lasting very long without her hive.

 

So, I think she was just trying to save herself, and, by extension, her subjects.

 

Still a damn good villain, though

[n00bert 18]

I thought villains were supposed to be bad.

 

Malice is what makes them compelling.