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Isn't it Ironic that bullies must be bullied to stop their actions? Speaking of which I think I should do some story time for you guys.

The other day, Thursday to be exact. I was being shoved by a bully until I almost fell down the stairs. It's a screwboy I've had problems with for 2 years of school. After a few more shoves, I turned around and shoved him. He decided it was a chance to attack me so, we rustled for a few minutes until he got a hold of me slammed my head into a wall, then slipped when trying to grab me again. At this point I slammed him into the wall and a deathgrip around his neck and a very profane warning made him avoid ever getting near me for the rest of this week. I hope it taught him a lesson to not pick on smaller people than him, he always does it to smaller people.

 

Anyways, share your story with me. I do love a good revenge story.

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I hate to admit it but... I think violence is the answer sometimes. ONLY IN SELF DEFENSE THOUGH. 

Anyway, Its good you stood up for yourself! Just be careful. They might come back for more. 

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sadly there will always be bullies. ive had to deal with em all my life xD and though you should never go looking for trouble, you should always be ready to defend yourself, the ones you care about and what you believe in.

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But still there are some parts off the world where bullies can be deadly. It's like in the most dangerous parts of the USA there have been some groups of bullies that have literally taken bullying so far to the point where they ended up permenantly injuring or killing their victims. It's like even there was a kid in Detroit who was attacked by his school bully with a large knife after school one day. The kid was stabbed a number of times but in the end he ended up killing the bully in an act of self defence as he managed to grab his arm and make him stab himself in the neck. It ultimately killed the bully within seconds but the kid was never blamed for it or punished as it was his choice to either kill the bully or be stabbed to death himself. So yes that was a news story I heard about once from an incident that happened in Detroit but it really does show how far bullying can actually go in the worst cases. :)

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Look, I'm not gonna try and propagate violence here but unfortunately, sometimes might makes right.

I had a guy who picked on me back in highschool. Didn't even pick on others, he just had it in for me in particular. I once knocked him down a flight of stairs after having been sick of it. He never bothered me again.

It's just that sometimes people like picking on those who wouldn't react to them. Ignoring them isn't going to work. 

Sometimes you will just have to stand up for yourself because nobody else will.

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Violence is only a last resort, despite how aggressive I can get to people harassing me I've never hit someone in my life. It is 100% possible to stop bullies using words, though much easier just to beat their face in. One such scenario my closest friends all betrayed me and began harassing me and my sister, and being the shy push over I was I did little to stop them. Eventually they made my sister cry, and I went from season 1 Fluttershy to Gunnery Sergeant Hartman in the snap of a finger. According to my sister I looked so pissed she thought I was going to kill them... yet I didn't (because she was holding me back), I just yelled at them very loudly. After that most of them backed down, and those who continued I broke them by going to their parents. Eventually I befriended them again, but still haven't fully forgiven them... but it didn't matter cause I moved a month later.

I use this experience as a reminder not to hit someone despite how much they deserve it... only attack when under attack.

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2 hours ago, CrimpedContraband said:

Isn't it Ironic that bullies must be bullied to stop their actions? Speaking of which I think I should do some story time for you guys.

The other day, Thursday to be exact. I was being shoved by a bully until I almost fell down the stairs. It's a screwboy I've had problems with for 2 years of school. After a few more shoves, I turned around and shoved him. He decided it was a chance to attack me so, we rustled for a few minutes until he got a hold of me slammed my head into a wall, then slipped when trying to grab me again. At this point I slammed him into the wall and a deathgrip around his neck and a very profane warning made him avoid ever getting near me for the rest of this week. I hope it taught him a lesson to not pick on smaller people than him, he always does it to smaller people.

 

Anyways, share your story with me. I do love a good revenge story.

That's no good. All you're doing is making things worse. If you teach a bully that way---you are just adding gasoline to a fire. That person will pick on others. You need to educate them in a way that they'll understand. 

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Sometimes self-defense is the only option. I respect that if there is no other way. Now I'm not saying you should be a pushover who lets the bully step all over you and control you through fear, but try to talk some sense into them. Just try. Don't let them break you. Be stern if there's a confrontation and try to make it clear that you are the bigger person because you do not go out of your way to target someone and assault them.

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It's a terrible thing that it has to come to fighting. But if bullies are too stupid to listen to reason or just control their own cowardly impulses, it's sometimes necessary to lower one's self to their level and knock their heads inside-out. I don't like fighting and I don't want to suggest anyone get into it, but I can't help feel that sometimes you have to fight. Even if you lose or get hurt, it sometimes feels better if you stand up for yourself anyway. Then you don't have to carry around that sick feeling inside, like you're just one of the nameless, faceless, hopeless crowd who get's beat up at the whim of someone without scruples. Sometimes you just have to send a signal that's it's not always going to be tolerated and that bullying will carry a cost.

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6 hours ago, Dreambiscuit said:

It's a terrible thing that it has to come to fighting. But if bullies are too stupid to listen to reason or just control their own cowardly impulses, it's sometimes necessary to lower one's self to their level and knock their heads inside-out. I don't like fighting and I don't want to suggest anyone get into it, but I can't help feel that sometimes you have to fight. Even if you lose or get hurt, it sometimes feels better if you stand up for yourself anyway. Then you don't have to carry around that sick feeling inside, like you're just one of the nameless, faceless, hopeless crowd who get's beat up at the whim of someone without scruples. Sometimes you just have to send a signal that's it's not always going to be tolerated and that bullying will carry a cost.

I'M not a fighter, I hate fighting, but as I've said this has been going on for 2 years  So in this scenario I had to stoop down to his level to get him to stop. He now leaves others alone as well.

 

I think it was a lesson well taught to him.

7 hours ago, Prospekt said:

Sometimes self-defense is the only option. I respect that if there is no other way. Now I'm not saying you should be a pushover who lets the bully step all over you and control you through fear, but try to talk some sense into them. Just try. Don't let them break you. Be stern if there's a confrontation and try to make it clear that you are the bigger person because you do not go out of your way to target someone and assault them.

I promise you that talking sense into this kid only made him more of a bully. It's worked with others, but only 30-40% of the time that works . 

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I do not condone violence at all, under no circumstances, but I can understand why someone would use it. I’ve personally only been mentally bullied and not physically bullied, so ignoring was the option that worked the best for me. I cannot speak from experience that I wouldn’t attack someone in that situation myself. I think you’ve done well and I hope more than anything that he learned something and leaves you and others alone from now on.

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1 minute ago, StrawCherry said:

I do not condone violence at all, under no circumstances, but I can understand why someone would use it. I’ve personally only been mentally bullied and not physically bullied, so ignoring was the option that worked the best for me. I cannot speak from experience that I wouldn’t attack someone in that situation myself. I think you’ve done well and I hope more than anything that he learned something and leaves you and others alone from now on.

I understand where you are coming from with mental bullying and I hate it, it sucks. And he did leave me alone. But a thing is, if these bullying programs don't help, we as students need to gather as groups and smash bullying of any sort. My Grandpa at school did this, a group of 5 friends would help the children who were getting bullied, they threaten the bully to leave them and others alone and they did. We as people need to work together on this issue, because all the government does about it is advertise.

 

To the rest of the readers:

Another thing to add to my story, I exhausted all of my resources trying to resolve this peacefully, as I said, I hate fighting. This was the last resort, I will not condone to being thrown down two flights of stairs and risk being injured.

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 Ideally you encourage and praise kids for good behavior to change their behavior, but this is the matter for educators and parents who need to keep the cycle of violence from perpetuating. If you're the target of a bully it's true standing up to them is often the only way to get them to back down. I don't think badly of anyone who has exhausted other options.

Largely behavioral studies show that bullies are not really misunderstood kids lashing out. They're people who have simply been allowed to get away with abusive behavior. They need that power taken away from them somehow or other. 

(This is also why you don't reason with bad faith trolls on the internet. You ban them)

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In some circumstance an "eye for an eye"  is a way to go. But I don't think the person wouldn't stop bullying the others, due to their "personal issues". That's why I  would rather take on a person with words and if they are just being an asshole, well they ask for it. 

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Remember two instances:

1- My lovely high school :dry:. One day, at the final weeks of getting out of that hellhole, there was a classmate who made an habit of picking on me. One day, he went overboard, so I've decided to fuck on his own game, in order to make him punch me, so I could punch back. Sad for him the blow ended on his eye :D

2-It was a Christmas eve party. One of the invited brought a quad for us to drive with. Problem was, there was one section where some ghetto brats took and verbally abused anyone who came in. We kept driving and driving until my younger cousin commented she was spat from one of them. Told my aunt, she went there to complain, and I've told everyone else. We the rest of us went, most of the brats just didn't dare to speak,except for one who was all macho towards my aunt and insulting her. I was pissed,and looking for revenge for all years of being abused by that ghetto society, and he happened to be my perfect victim B). He was so macho towards my aunt, but you think he dared to do the same when a pissed 6'1 motherfucker (yours truly ) grabbed, shoved and threatened to hit him?.  IDIOT WAS LIKE A DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS :D. Well after a final shove, I was after him again, but was stopped by my godmother. Was for the best, I think I would have beaten him, and he was a minor, so teouble for me. But damn, I was like Matt Murdoch when he beat a father who sexually abused his daughter every night in Daredevil, I've never slept so well that night

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Speaking of "irony", I find it hilarious that bullies get so shocked when their target decides to hit them back.

I had many people pick on me in middle school, particularly as a Turkish kid in a French school (might wanna brush up on your history to see how much the French hate Turks). I might've struck back, except they were always faster and stronger than me, so I'd always be left frustrated, building up until I exploded into tears.

I spent 2-3 years putting up with that, and sadly for me, the solution didn't occur to me until it was pretty much over: scratching. I decided to grow my nails a little, mainly the left hand because I didn't wanna scratch myself whilst writing with the right one.

It's kinda funny how long I waited for an opportunity to use that new weapon; eventually though, it arrived. One of the rare kids to still bully me showed up whilst waiting in line for lunch, I don't remember what he was doing but he was physically touching/reaching for me. I swung my hand, and unlike a punch which needs power/speed to be effective, the nails left some nice white marks on his skin.

He inspected his forearm, and he said while shaking his head: "You're crazy, you know."

So hey, it turns out... touching and pushing you around daily is completely normal... but you swinging back with your nails one time is completely insane.

Who woulda thought?

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On 10/23/2017 at 0:02 AM, CrimpedContraband said:

Isn't it Ironic that bullies must be bullied to stop their actions? Speaking of which I think I should do some story time for you guys.

The other day, Thursday to be exact. I was being shoved by a bully until I almost fell down the stairs. It's a screwboy I've had problems with for 2 years of school. After a few more shoves, I turned around and shoved him. He decided it was a chance to attack me so, we rustled for a few minutes until he got a hold of me slammed my head into a wall, then slipped when trying to grab me again. At this point I slammed him into the wall and a deathgrip around his neck and a very profane warning made him avoid ever getting near me for the rest of this week. I hope it taught him a lesson to not pick on smaller people than him, he always does it to smaller people.

 

Anyways, share your story with me. I do love a good revenge story.

 

Technically, that was more self-defense than revenge.

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