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So, I will say right off the bat that this theory is very unlikely to be true, but I was making me a sammich and I though about it and now it has been in my head for a while. There will be season 8 animatic spoilers ahead and lots of theorizing, you have been warned.

So, Shadow Play is out, and most of us love it, the Pillars banishing Stygian made for an interesting story that wasn't super impactful as we didn't get to really see them all together. But to recap, Stygian was a Pony like the rest of them, but more scholar than hero, he realized that the ponies emerging world would need champions to defend it. Even though he brought them together, Stygian was just a normal pony who soon grew jealous of the Pillars abilities, he stole objects from each of them to use in a spell, and he was cast out for it. They always thought he would return to seek forgiveness, but when he did come back, his heart was bent on revenge, it dashed even Somnabulas hope of saving him.

So, Stygian was cast out because he stole artifacts from the Pillar mane 6, but it was all based on a misunderstanding, he wanted to aid them but they thought what he was doing was dark and evil so they cast him out, he was alone and had no one to turn to, thus, he became the vessel for darkness and returned to destroy all of Equestria.

So, how does this all related to season 8?
What was Chrysalis doing in the animatic again? We are not quite sure, but there are a few good explanations, what she is doing is classic voodo, pictures, hair strands. It seems clear Chrysalis has a plan here.

But what is it?
Chrysalis hates all the mane 6, but she swore revenge on Starlight. So, why would she be so disinterested in her? Because Starlight is the target, and the mane 6 are the guns, she will create voodo dolls or some magic to control or replicate the mane 6 (I know people think she will just lay a thousand more changelings but that won't happen because it will make the whole she lost her hive plotline irrelevant) And when she has them, we will see a replication, or as Somnambula would say, a reflection of Stygians tale, but with a twist, with control over Twilight and pals, she will frame Starlight in some way, I believe she will have Starlight take the elements now that they are back, and with the mane 6 under her control, she will have them cast Starlight out, completely alone, with nobody. She would seemingly go to Trixie or Maud, or even Sunburst, but Chrysalis is smart, she will make sure that the mane 6 crush Starlight's spirit, make her feel like nothing and make her lose any sense of self worth and friendship, Starlight will run, probably crying, and Chrysalis will either capitalize on that, or revel in her successful revenge, now this doesn't mean Starlightr will be corrupted by any dark force or Shadow (even thought it is in Limbo anyway so.) 

So the basic gist is, Chrysalis will make the mane 6 go against Starlight and cast her out, breaking her down and breaking through her shell, shattering her heart, and Starlight will change because of that in someway.

 

Like I said, I don't think this is going happen, as we know (finale spoilers for season 8 inc) Tirek will be making a return so this whole idea would need to be saved for a later season or condensed in a 2 parter, so I doubt it, but I think it would be really cool to see this kinda reflection of what happened with Stygian, except it wouldn't be because of a misunderstanding on the mane 6s part, but on Starlights part do to a puppetmaster pulling the strings that she cannot see.

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1 hour ago, Ryanmahaffe said:

So, I will say right off the bat that this theory is very unlikely to be true, but I was making me a sammich and I though about it and now it has been in my head for a while. There will be season 8 animatic spoilers ahead and lots of theorizing, you have been warned.

So, Shadow Play is out, and most of us love it, the Pillars banishing Stygian made for an interesting story that wasn't super impactful as we didn't get to really see them all together. But to recap, Stygian was a Pony like the rest of them, but more scholar than hero, he realized that the ponies emerging world would need champions to defend it. Even though he brought them together, Stygian was just a normal pony who soon grew jealous of the Pillars abilities, he stole objects from each of them to use in a spell, and he was cast out for it. They always thought he would return to seek forgiveness, but when he did come back, his heart was bent on revenge, it dashed even Somnabulas hope of saving him.

So, Stygian was cast out because he stole artifacts from the Pillar mane 6, but it was all based on a misunderstanding, he wanted to aid them but they thought what he was doing was dark and evil so they cast him out, he was alone and had no one to turn to, thus, he became the vessel for darkness and returned to destroy all of Equestria.

So, how does this all related to season 8?
What was Chrysalis doing in the animatic again? We are not quite sure, but there are a few good explanations, what she is doing is classic voodo, pictures, hair strands. It seems clear Chrysalis has a plan here.

But what is it?
Chrysalis hates all the mane 6, but she swore revenge on Starlight. So, why would she be so disinterested in her? Because Starlight is the target, and the mane 6 are the guns, she will create voodo dolls or some magic to control or replicate the mane 6 (I know people think she will just lay a thousand more changelings but that won't happen because it will make the whole she lost her hive plotline irrelevant) And when she has them, we will see a replication, or as Somnambula would say, a reflection of Stygians tale, but with a twist, with control over Twilight and pals, she will frame Starlight in some way, I believe she will have Starlight take the elements now that they are back, and with the mane 6 under her control, she will have them cast Starlight out, completely alone, with nobody. She would seemingly go to Trixie or Maud, or even Sunburst, but Chrysalis is smart, she will make sure that the mane 6 crush Starlight's spirit, make her feel like nothing and make her lose any sense of self worth and friendship, Starlight will run, probably crying, and Chrysalis will either capitalize on that, or revel in her successful revenge, now this doesn't mean Starlightr will be corrupted by any dark force or Shadow (even thought it is in Limbo anyway so.) 

So the basic gist is, Chrysalis will make the mane 6 go against Starlight and cast her out, breaking her down and breaking through her shell, shattering her heart, and Starlight will change because of that in someway.

 

Like I said, I don't think this is going happen, as we know (finale spoilers for season 8 inc) Tirek will be making a return so this whole idea would need to be saved for a later season or condensed in a 2 parter, so I doubt it, but I think it would be really cool to see this kinda reflection of what happened with Stygian, except it wouldn't be because of a misunderstanding on the mane 6s part, but on Starlights part do to a puppetmaster pulling the strings that she cannot see.

 

If Starlight had a closer relationship with all the main six, I’d say this would be more likely, but Twilight is the only one she really connects with. If something like that happened she has other, closer friends to turn to.

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50 minutes ago, ShootingStar159 said:

 

If Starlight had a closer relationship with all the main six, I’d say this would be more likely, but Twilight is the only one she really connects with. If something like that happened she has other, closer friends to turn to.

The thing is though, yeah the mane 6 besides Twilight aren't best friends with Starlight, just friends, but they are the ponies that gave her another chance, that forgave her and let he become who she is now, and obviously Twilight probably means more to Starlight than any of her other friends. So I think that the same ponies that trusted Starlight, turning on her and treating her like a monster, would be crushing for her.


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21 minutes ago, Ryanmahaffe said:

The thing is though, yeah the mane 6 besides Twilight aren't best friends with Starlight, just friends, but they are the ponies that gave her another chance, that forgave her and let he become who she is now, and obviously Twilight probably means more to Starlight than any of her other friends. So I think that the same ponies that trusted Starlight, turning on her and treating her like a monster, would be crushing for her.

Right, let me see if I can explain it better. Obviously, Twilight turning on Starlight would devastate her, but I think they’ve been through enough now that Starlight wouldn’t buy it. That sounds like an idea that would have worked better in season 6 when Starlight was still unsure of herself and her place as Twilights student and friend.

If Twilight and the others turned on her, I don’t think she’d buy that it’s natural, and she’s has other close friends like Maud, Trixie, and Sunburst to turn to for help.

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14 minutes ago, ShootingStar159 said:

Right, let me see if I can explain it better. Obviously, Twilight turning on Starlight would devastate her, but I think they’ve been through enough now that Starlight wouldn’t buy it

I'd certainly hope so, but...to be honest, the ponies can do or say some boneheaded things now and then, or things they'd regret.  Starlight might just believe one of Chrysalis's lies...maybe.

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4 hours ago, ShootingStar159 said:

If Twilight and the others turned on her, I don’t think she’d buy that it’s natural, and she’s has other close friends like Maud, Trixie, and Sunburst to turn to for help.

If they want to go that route, the most tricky part will be how to make Starlight buy that in logical way. :blink: How they could make Starlight to believe Twilight, her most dearest teacher can do something like insulting her, verbal abuse her, like Starlight's nightmare in S6 finale? It must be Movie-Twilight's level of insulting to break Starlight's heart. :orly: Chrysalis should cast spell on Maud, Trixie, and Sunburst too, they are her precious friends beside Twilight, if they turned on her (in believable ways, of course), that will drive Starlight insane... Then Chryssie will act like a 'good friend' to comfort Starlight and we will got Top 10 anime betrayal...

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I rather think she will go to the princesses to seek advice, instead of running of crying. She will have a hard time, but she hopefully can handle it. :grin:

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10 hours ago, Ryanmahaffe said:

So, I will say right off the bat that this theory is very unlikely to be true, but I was making me a sammich and I though about it and now it has been in my head for a while. There will be season 8 animatic spoilers ahead and lots of theorizing, you have been warned.

So, Shadow Play is out, and most of us love it, the Pillars banishing Stygian made for an interesting story that wasn't super impactful as we didn't get to really see them all together. But to recap, Stygian was a Pony like the rest of them, but more scholar than hero, he realized that the ponies emerging world would need champions to defend it. Even though he brought them together, Stygian was just a normal pony who soon grew jealous of the Pillars abilities, he stole objects from each of them to use in a spell, and he was cast out for it. They always thought he would return to seek forgiveness, but when he did come back, his heart was bent on revenge, it dashed even Somnabulas hope of saving him.

So, Stygian was cast out because he stole artifacts from the Pillar mane 6, but it was all based on a misunderstanding, he wanted to aid them but they thought what he was doing was dark and evil so they cast him out, he was alone and had no one to turn to, thus, he became the vessel for darkness and returned to destroy all of Equestria.

So, how does this all related to season 8?
What was Chrysalis doing in the animatic again? We are not quite sure, but there are a few good explanations, what she is doing is classic voodo, pictures, hair strands. It seems clear Chrysalis has a plan here.

But what is it?
Chrysalis hates all the mane 6, but she swore revenge on Starlight. So, why would she be so disinterested in her? Because Starlight is the target, and the mane 6 are the guns, she will create voodo dolls or some magic to control or replicate the mane 6 (I know people think she will just lay a thousand more changelings but that won't happen because it will make the whole she lost her hive plotline irrelevant) And when she has them, we will see a replication, or as Somnambula would say, a reflection of Stygians tale, but with a twist, with control over Twilight and pals, she will frame Starlight in some way, I believe she will have Starlight take the elements now that they are back, and with the mane 6 under her control, she will have them cast Starlight out, completely alone, with nobody. She would seemingly go to Trixie or Maud, or even Sunburst, but Chrysalis is smart, she will make sure that the mane 6 crush Starlight's spirit, make her feel like nothing and make her lose any sense of self worth and friendship, Starlight will run, probably crying, and Chrysalis will either capitalize on that, or revel in her successful revenge, now this doesn't mean Starlightr will be corrupted by any dark force or Shadow (even thought it is in Limbo anyway so.) 

So the basic gist is, Chrysalis will make the mane 6 go against Starlight and cast her out, breaking her down and breaking through her shell, shattering her heart, and Starlight will change because of that in someway.

 

Like I said, I don't think this is going happen, as we know (finale spoilers for season 8 inc) Tirek will be making a return so this whole idea would need to be saved for a later season or condensed in a 2 parter, so I doubt it, but I think it would be really cool to see this kinda reflection of what happened with Stygian, except it wouldn't be because of a misunderstanding on the mane 6s part, but on Starlights part do to a puppetmaster pulling the strings that she cannot see.

That actually isn't a bad theory. The show has definitely not shied away from mind controlling magic before. This could be an insight to how she got Shining Armor under her spell before. My only real rebuttal is Starlight would be able to spot mind altering magic from a mile away  (t least she SHOULD be able too). She's quite adept at doing it herself after all. 

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13 hours ago, Hierok said:

I rather think she will go to the princesses to seek advice, instead of running of crying. She will have a hard time, but she hopefully can handle it. :grin:

I think that is what would end up causing Chrysalis's plan to fail, she would be betting on Starlight being destroyed and running and crying, but her other friends and allies would raise her spirits back up, and they would free the mane 6.


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