Pondering Pinkie Pie

[Sentienthydra 52]

Okay peeps, bear with me while I posit this little theory.

 

My hypothesis is this: If it weren't for Pinkie Pie, Ponyvile would be a very unfriendly place, perhaps the most unfriendly.

 

I base this on the finale of season three, and a few other occasions where the citizens of the village have shown themselves to lash out or be generally grumpy without the least provocation.

While individual ponies and character may show integrity and innate 'goodness' for the most part, there are a few occasions that stand out.

 

The belligerent stall vendors in 'Putting your Hoof down', a few ponies from that same epsiode acting rude (cutting in line, stealing cabs, those two teen talkers at the asparagus stall)

 

In boast buster, it didn't take the whole town long to turn against a simple show-mare, even if Trixie was acting a little rudely and boastful, she didn't deserve that level of intolerance.

 

In the Finale of the third season, what really stuck out to me was how very quickly the people of Ponyville turned grumpy, angry and irritable as soon as Pinkie Pie left the village.

 

Then as soon as she came back, the town was instantly back to normal.

 

My conclusion. Pinkie Pie is the heart and soul of Ponyville, stopping it's naturally grumpy nature from taking over.

 

Or it might just be that the Ponies of Ponyville are Justifiably irritable and grumpy, mostly because of how often their town is besieged by disaster.

 

Anyways, thanks for reading my ramble.

[Leafeon 2,702]

At the same time, Pinkie has said one of the meanest lines in the show (When she was Pinkie - Not Pinkamena)

 

 

Please tell me I'm not the only one who is really irritated by that line.

 

OT: I see your point, but I think the town is just written to be bendable. Sometimes they're happy, even if Pinkie isn't around. Sometimes they're mad, even if Pinkie's around. I think Ponyville is just full of easily led ponies...

[Stellafera 3,836]

Well, during the finale, the weather was nuts, the dress shop was a mess, food production was at an all-time low... I think they had other reasons to be mad, and just didn't have Pinkie around to give them hope.

[silvadel 1,393]

Actually it shows that she has pride in her past and what her family does on the rock farm even if she is no longer there.  It also may have subtones that she doesnt like the idea of Trixie having walked into her past life.

 

As for Ponyville itself, I think it was more the water torture of having crazy discord-level weather, no new dresses, animals running around unchecked, etc.  Ponies do not like that sort of thing.  Plus Fluttershy was truly incompetent at the job of party pony.  The absence of Pinkie Pie for a month or two would affect Ponyville less than Fluttershy trying to be party pony.

[King 5,625]

Pinkie is like the glue that holds the popsicle stick of Ponyville together

 

She really holds alot of the place together with her kindness

[TailsIsNotAlone 3,695]

Actually I think that was poor writing. It doesn't make sense that everypony would be mean and miserable without her and suddenly everything's okay when she comes back. And the only other times Ponyville was depicted as crass and unfriendly involved *shudder* Merriwether.

 

I love Pinkie but I don't think the sanity of Ponyville rests on her shoulders. She just makes things brighter.

[King 5,625]

I suppose your correct

Pinkie just adds the Pinkiness to Ponyville

But I suppose everypony has their place ....

you know..

 

Everypony Equal

[Rainbow RapiDASH 53]

I have no doubt that Pinkie Pie has some influence in Ponyville.  But I think it's more like a "keep things interesting"  sort of thing than anything else.  She takes it upon herself to cheer up anypony she sees who might be sad or upset, and spends most of her time making people laugh, but you could say the same thing for any "village fool."  She also has a tendency to disrupt the flow of the day and generally cause a "FRACAS!" every now and then.

 

If you want to talk about the "heart and soul" of Ponyville though, then you'd have to talk about sweet apple acres and the apple family. According to Granny Smith, Ponyville had grown from around her family's homestead and the products and produce they made. 

 

I don't doubt that Pinke Pie is very well liked though. Just look at how eager ponyville citizens were to join her in song. I doubt she is responsible for keeping everypony happy, but she is able to make ponies happy again fairly quickly.

[An Old Head 4,816]

It's from no more than observation to tell you that Pinkie Pie is the town's charmer:

 

 

There is bordering on nothing that pleases her more than making sure there is a sparkling and thriving community in Ponyville. She's the one with all the entertainment and alleviation from stress for every pony living there. She knows everyone, and everyone knows her. When you're the biggest party animal in town, you're the most popular and the pony to turn to for a brightened day.

 

It was confirmed in the finale - she embodies optimism. Pinkie Pie is not a pony to give up, and she's always expressed it. When she's got her goal, be it guiding parasprites out of town or welcoming in a new member, she will go to extraordinary lengths to make sure it's completed, embracing lessons that may come out of it. It's only natural that the other ponies have a sense of inspiration when seeing Best Pony at her brightest. They want to be like that - they want to have not a worry in the world. That's the ultimate goal in the end - you're never going to do something unless there's satisfaction at the end of it. She knows it, and she grasps it by the scruff of the neck.

[Wingnut 6,993]

 

It was confirmed in the finale - she embodies optimism. Pinkie Pie is not a pony to give up, and she's always expressed it. When she's got her goal, be it guiding parasprites out of town or welcoming in a new member, she will go to extraordinary lengths to make sure it's completed, embracing lessons that may come out of it. It's only natural that the other ponies have a sense of inspiration when seeing Best Pony at her brightest. They want to be like that - they want to have not a worry in the world. That's the ultimate goal in the end - you're never going to do something unless there's satisfaction at the end of it. She knows it, and she grasps it by the scruff of the neck.

 

I think Flipturn said it best. Keep in mind that Ponyville is set in a much different time than our own. There is no television and I don't think we've even seen a radio. They have talking movies, in Technicolor no less, but people can't spend all their time in the theater. In short, Equestria doesn't have as many entertainment options as we do today.

 

Other kinds of entertainment exists to fill this gap. A small town like Ponyville is regularly visited by traveling Vaudeville style acts. The Flim and Flam brothers are one example as they are entertainers in addition to being cider makers. Trixie was another until her career came to an abrupt end. Traveling shows like that come and go. But what they have in Pinkie Pie is an outstanding resident entertainer who they can always turn to for diversion. I wouldn't say she's Ponyville's heart and soul. But she is it's joy and laughter. People act as though happiness is a luxury. It's really a necessity. Life without at least some happiness isn't living at all. Just look at Cranky Doodle.

[Harmonic Revelations 8,835]

The weather was ballsy, the animals were out of control, Spike got speaking lines. Everything that could possibly go wrong DID go wrong.

[pinkiefan1287 610]

At the same time, Pinkie has said one of the meanest lines in the show (When she was Pinkie - Not Pinkamena)

 

 

Please tell me I'm not the only one who is really irritated by that line.

 

OT: I see your point, but I think the town is just written to be bendable. Sometimes they're happy, even if Pinkie isn't around. Sometimes they're mad, even if Pinkie's around. I think Ponyville is just full of easily led ponies...

 

Wait I don't understand how this line would irritate you? To what it sounds like Pinkie Pie is defending her family and what they do for a living. But how do you here it?

[Leafeon 2,702]

Wait I don't understand how this line would irritate you? To what it sounds like Pinkie Pie is defending her family and what they do for a living. But how do you here it?

Pinkie is saying that Trixie is basically worthless. A rock farm is one of the "joke" jobs (And is used as such). So, Pinkie saying that Trixie isn't even worth enough to be on one is very rude.

[Scootalove 10,689]

I think of Pinkie Pie as more of a energetic, happy pony. When she is not around, almost all of the ponies are just gloomy and depressing.

But, she really knows how to bring a smile on everypony's face.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BNG67b4hDM

[Derpy Azusa 272]

I agree Pinkiepie brings the joy to ponyville and with out her falls apart. She is always putting smiles on ponies faces and making their day better

[RoseLaflesh 38]

I think I should add to this discussion that if it's true that Pinkie Pie is all that's standing between the ponies being kind and happy and them being rude and grumpy, then I don't want to imagine what the rest of Equestria is like. If it's true, then I can see now why Twilight never wanted to leave the library until she came to Ponyville.

[Mr. Jaguar 1,403]

Pinkie is saying that Trixie is basically worthless. A rock farm is one of the "joke" jobs (And is used as such). So, Pinkie saying that Trixie isn't even worth enough to be on one is very rude.

 

So? She kinda came to ponyville and started terrozing the residents unprovoked. Insulting her in such a manner was not exactly unwarranted.

 

On topic, I still find it hard to believe that Pinkie Pie is the sole reason for ponyville being happy (seriously, why are they so miserable without her?), but it is what is.

Edited March 8, 2013 by Mr. Jaguar

[Leafeon 2,702]

So? She kinda came to ponyville and started terrozing the residents unprovoked. Insulting her in such a manner was not exactly unwarranted.

Yet, at the same time, the whole reason Trixie is even there in the first place is for vengeance. Which is vengeance on the mane 6. So you can lead all of this to Pinkie's friends (Not going to say her, as she wasn't really in Boast Busters).

 

That's no excuse for the element of laughter saying something so heartless, anyway.

[Mr. Jaguar 1,403]

Yet, at the same time, the whole reason Trixie is even there in the first place is for vengeance. Which is vengeance on the mane 6. So you can lead all of this to Pinkie's friends (Not going to say her, as she wasn't really in Boast Busters).

Vengeance for a silly reason, considering neither Twilight nor her friends did anything, Trixie herself, when given the opportunity to vanquish an yrsa minor by Snips and Snails, that she was making the whole story about the ursa major up, and that she couldn't do it, than she got mad at Twilight just for being able to get rid of the ursa minor when she couldn't, which is stupid.

That's no excuse for the element of laughter saying something so heartless, anyway.

I don't think that insulting someone who's bullying her friends (whom she cares for dearly) for no good reason goes against the element of laughter's profile. Heartless? Really? When someone comes to my neighborhood and starts terrozing the people I care about for such a silly reason, I'm not gonna give two craps about their sad past, since they kinda dropped out of my "I care about you" zone and into my "I don't give a crap about you" zone.

 

But  we're offtopic, bleh.

Edited March 8, 2013 by Mr. Jaguar

[Soundgarden 2,758]

As mentioned before, it's just bad writing.

 

It feels like if the residents of Ponyville are like bots from a shitty city simulator.

Your food resources are at 99 when they need to be 100? The residents goes apeshit. Food resources at 100? Everybody will worship you for being their saviour

[Leafeon 2,702]

Vengeance for a silly reason, considering neither Twilight nor her friends did anything, Trixie herself, when given the opportunity to vanquish an yrsa minor by Snips and Snails, that she was making the whole story about the ursa major up, and that she couldn't do it, than she got mad at Twilight just for being able to get rid of the ursa minor when she couldn't, which is stupid.

You know, I want a penny for everytime I've said this. I could buy a sandwich.

 

Do you know what a performer has? They have a gimmick. Being boastful is a gimmick. And is used as such. Snips and Snails were rewarded for bringing an Ursa Minor into town, and Trixie was exiled for trying to make a living and trying to slay the Ursa Minor. So vengeance is an amazing reason. If what I said there is wrong, please let me know. I like to add these things to why Trixie is best pony essay.

 

 

I don't think that insulting someone who's bullying her friends (whom she cares for dearly) for no good reason goes against the element of laughter's profile. Heartless? Really? When someone comes to my neighborhood and starts terrozing the people I care about for such a silly reason, I'm not gonna give two craps about their sad past, since they kinda dropped out of my "I care about you" zone and into my "I don't give a crap about you" zone.

So, instead of doing anything, you straight up insult them? Provoking them? Bizzare.

Edited March 8, 2013 by Firebolt

[Mr. Jaguar 1,403]

You know, I want a penny for everytime I've said this. I could buy a sandwich.

 

Do you know what a performer has? They have a gimmick. Being boastful is a gimmick. And is used as such. Snips and Snails were rewarded for bringing an Ursa Minor into town, and Trixie was exiled for trying to make a living and trying to slay the Ursa Minor. So vengeance is an amazing reason. If what I said there is wrong, please let me know. I like to add these things to why Trixie is best pony essay.

And none of that matters because Twilight and her friends had absolutely nothing to do with that. She admitted to the public that she was a fraud, when she was given the opportunity, by Snips and Snails, not Twilight and her friends, to prove herself.

 

So, instead of doing anything, you straight up insult them? Provoking them? Bizzare.

 

Who said i wouldn't do anything? I'd stop them if I could. I'm just saying her insulting Trixie was justifiable from her point of view, since she didn't know Trixie was corrupted and no reason to assume that (they didn't know that the amulet she wore was corrupting her, they had no way of knowing), she had every reason to believe Trixie was just being a bitch for no good reason, which would make her insults justified. She was also probably upset that Trixie insulted her family profession.

Edited March 8, 2013 by Mr. Jaguar

[Leafeon 2,702]

And none of that matters because Twilight and her friends had absolutely nothing to do with that. She admitted to the public that she was a fraud, when she was given the opportunity, by Snips and Snails, not Twilight and her friends, to prove herself.

If you/any of the characters didn't know that Trixie was a fraud, that's actually quite worrying...

 

 

Who said i wouldn't do anything? I'd stop them if I could. I'm just saying her insulting Trixie was justifiable from her point of view, since she didn't know Trixie was corrupted and no reason to assume that (they didn't know that the amulet she wore was corrupting her, they had no way of knowing), she had every reason to believe Trixie was just being a bitch for no good reason, which would make her insults justified. She was also probably upset that Trixie insulted her family profession.

The random red around her eyes and magic wasn't obvious?

 

I never said she wasn't "justified" either. I said it was rude. Very rude. 

[Mr. Jaguar 1,403]

If you/any of the characters didn't know that Trixie was a fraud, that's actually quite worrying...

 

I'm pretty sure she was legitamately trying to convince people that she actually slew an Ursa Minor, she never gave any indication that she didn't want to be taken seriously, she was pretty clearly trying to boast just to make herself seem more impressive. Why would she get up on a stage and start bragging about it if she didn't want people to believe her? What would be the point? Assuming you're trying to argue that she never intended to be taken seriously, that is.

The random red around her eyes and magic wasn't obvious?

No, not really. Her eyes only glowed when she used magic anyway.

I never said she wasn't "justified" either. I said it was rude. Very rude. 

So?

[Leafeon 2,702]

 

I'm pretty sure she was legitamately trying to convince people that she actually slew an Ursa Minor, she never gave any indication that she didn't want to be taken seriously, she was pretty clearly trying to boast just to make herself seem more impressive. Why would she get up on a stage and start bragging about it if she didn't want people to believe her? What would be the point? Assuming you're trying to argue that she never intended to be taken seriously, that is.

I didn't say that. I said it was obvious she was lying. When a kid lies saying that the dog ate his homework, do you believe him? No, of course not, though he wants you to believe him, you don't. Same with Trixie.

 

 

 

No, not really. Her eyes only glowed when she used magic anyway.

 

 

So?

So - you're argument is almost entriely pointless, as your argument is that it's justified, which is not at all what I'm arguing.