Should Disney and Pixar split?

[Slice0Pie 815]

I think they should. I think they should split up and go there own ways. Disney can do so many amazing things without Pixar, and stop following there foot steps, and let them do their own styles. Right here, Disney, made Paperman (Link:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSxJkKiHXbw ) And its beautiful. If they made a movie like this, the incredible will come back.

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Pixar, in my opinion, I am starting to dislike. There starting to make movies that I don't like, and sequels, like Cars 3, and they basically ruin the first movie *although every sequel does that*

[Scootalove 10,689]

I know that the overwhelming amount of future sequels is pretty bad but, Disney and Pixar are really doing a great job together on their movie projects.

[Troblems 5,619]

They already did split. They got back together.

[Fireworks 32]

I really, really, really hope they don't make a WALL-E sequel, or an Up sequel. Those movies are perfect the way they are, and it should be left at that.

 

As for them splitting, I don't know what Disney has done to help (or hurt) Pixar, so I'm neutral for this one.

Edited November 24, 2013 by Fireworks

[Static Electricity 729]

They should put an end to executive meddling and stop moving directors off their projects.

 

And no more sequels either.

Edited December 12, 2013 by Static Electricity

[Jammo 986]

They should reach an agreement where Pixar makes what they want to make, on their own terms.

Knowing how seriously Pixar takes storytelling and animation as an art form.. Do you think Pixar was eager to continue the Cars saga?

 

We don't have to worry about Up or Wall-E sequels... They aren't merchandising gold mines like Cars/Planes or Toy Story.

But at least Disney was nice enough to let Pixar make Toy Story 3 when they had a story they were ready to tell..

I don't think Cars 2 was made because they thought "A spy film was the next natural step for these characters. "

[Sunlight 357]

I'm not really sure about that. They made some pretty good movies together, but I really don't want any more sequels to good movies like Up and such.

[King Sejong 859]

   In the beginning Pixar and Disney were partners, Pixar made movies and Disney would distribute, but Disney now has a bad habit of treating Pixar as a subsidiary. Corporate meddling has Pixar producing sequels to some of it's successful films, in exchange for distributing its films, what we got was Toy Story 3 which was very good, Cars 2 which is terrible and Monsters University with modest results, nevertheless Disney producers are beginning to intermingle with Pixar films, which we had with Brave, it had Disney people work on it and it shows, minus the musical numbers. I would like Disney to leave Pixar alone to make its own films again, the freedom that Pixar had gave us splendid cinema, I am not going to pretend I know much about film making and executive business, as a admirer of Pixar, I am saying that Pixar can do whatever it can to revive its creativity, and make original movies again for anyone and everyone.    

[Theshadowmaster235 70]

Yes Pixar would be better off if they ditch Disney and stop taking orders from the tyrants who will ruin star wars. I used to think Disney was okay but now they just keep producing more crap that nobody wants to watch.

[DiscordAnarchy 770]

Technically they are different. Disney and Pixar were once together but Pixar basically told Disney "Hey, we are our own studio. You only produce our films." which resulted in the latest "Disney Presents a Pixar Film" as opposed to "Disney's Toystory" (as an example)

 

Now, people think there is corperate meddling about the sequels. The reality is one of the reasons the Sequels (except for Toy Story) have been sub-par is because a majority of them (Dory, Monsters University, Cars 2) are done by a subsiderary of Pixar. They have a 2nd studio work on their sequels and most likely they are only done in order to provide Pixar more money for a larger film. If you notice, Pixar's actual seques (the Toy Story films) are very well done in comparison to the other ones.

 

Now for the question:

 

I was considering this the other day actually. There is another studio that was created from a split from Disney and it resulted in some of the greatest animated movies of the early 90s and late 80s. Don Bluth Productions which is responsible for Secret of Nihm, Land Before Time, Anastasia, etc.

 

Don Bluth seperating from Disney allowed him to give audiences movies that pushed the Maturity limits for kids movies. They are also some of the most detailed films of that era.

 

HOWEVER

 

Don Bluth was also not able to match Disney's income. A lot of these movies were either box office failures or squeaked by their budget. Don Bluth wasn't ever able to compete with Disney head on and although these movies are now considered either cult classics or successes (thanks to DVD sales), it has always been a struggle with the Don Bluth corperation.

 

Pixar has a very strong following and they may be able to step into mature waters if they were seperated from Disney. They may be able to create a lot more unique works or they may just stick to what they know - providing us with some fantastic but overall very kids friendly movies.

 

However I am not sure if they can survive on their own. Disney's animated studio has already proven to be very powerful thanks to Frozen, Tangled, and Wreck it Ralph and these three movies easily compete with Pixar's big guns. If seperated, Pixar may end up like Don Bluth - whereas they will still provide us with some fantastic movies but they may not be able to sustain themselves as an individual company.

[Darker 1,351]

To be fair, they were friends before they even met. They just joined forces and created beautiful movies.

[Khaoios 1,970]

As Troblems mentioned, they split and got back together again. Just a heads up, its all about money. Disney is exactly like MS and Apple. Money, money, money.

 

However two companies that shpuld definitely split b4 they ruin the franchise are Marvel and Lucasfilm.

[Haruhi-chan 486]

Yes and No.

 

I do like some of the Pixar films, but I also miss seeing the cartoon versions of movies. It goes both ways for me, to be honest. I think Pixar should at least allow Disney some freedom so they can go back to making cartoon movies like they used to.

 

I don't really watch much Disney anymore. Their channels are complete and utter crap (aside from Sofia and Chugggington). I do agree that they are going to ruin star wars. Star Wars should have just been left where it was and ended right there.

Edited September 14, 2014 by Cinnamon Honey

[CuriousPony 157]

I think each company could do well on their own, but together they're (usually) awesome. 

 

Besides, Pixar needs to stick around and cover Disney's butt when they come close to screwing up. Did you know Disney wanted Woody from Toy Story to be a villain, not unlike Lotso from the third movie? Pixar stepped in and suggested the movie take on a different route though, and because of them we got the movie(s) that are so popular today. 

[Wind Chaser 4,768]

I'd say a definite no.

 

Pixar and Disney together makes perfect commercial sense. They are two very successful brands combining to bring in two very successful streams of revenue, despite the quality and longevity of their later films.

 

Oddly enough, Disney was, in the early/mid-2000s, in the position Pixar is in now. Their movies were not very successful and losing them money, thus forcing questionable executive decisions that got them into trouble so deep that they almost lost Pixar as a partner in 2005. However, the mixed results of Chicken Little compared to the spotless record Pixar had at the time compelled them to reach a new agreement that eventually led to a merger.

 

Now, the roles have reversed. Disney is now seeing new levels of success it has not seen since their renaissance era in the 90s, meanwhile Pixar's near-perfect record from the last decade is all but gone, and their future lineup looks to be full of the same safe, corporate-friendly films all of the Disney companies were lined up with during Pixar's reign on top in the 2000s.

 

The commercial advantage of having the two companies together is that they share the risk. If one of them is weak, at least it is bringing in some income and keeping artists employed so that the other company can continue to produce, market, and distribute good films. It might not sound like the best of solutions from a creative purist's perspective, but we want to make sure we have at least one good, fully functional studio turning out good movies. It takes expert management, marketing, and human resources to make such a gargantuan operation like Disney fire on all cylinders, and it's all the more obvious because they aren't.

 

But, to me, as long as one of the companies is giving us good movies, I don't care, and I won't judge.

Edited December 19, 2014 by North Wind