Goku vs Tirek

[Bright Honor 2,671]

Let's face it, this thread was probably going to be made at some point anyway.

 

Anyway here we go:

 

 

VS

 

 

BTW, Goku will will have the power he has at the end of Battle Of the Gods, since Tirek can probably beat any pre-buu saga version of him. So Goku has Super Saiyan God and what not, but nothing from GT.

 

So who do you think would win?

 

I think Goku may have this. He has fought some very powerful adversaries during DBZ. While Tirek has telekinesis, Goku has broken out of a telekinesis-like technique that Frieza used against him. Of course Tirek is no pushover.

Edited May 13, 2014 by Brighty

[Scootalove 10,689]

It had to be made sometime.  

 

Tirek is certainly no pushover, but this battle might reach an impasse. I'd say that Goku wins since he is in his Super Saiyan God form, this battle would be so awesome.

Edited May 13, 2014 by Scootalove

[Ace O. Jade 122]

Are we counting Goku's abilities as magic or as [i think DBZ claims they are] chi-based or something like that? We'd have to decide whether or not Tirek could absorb Goku's abilities. If not, Goku's has a chance since Tirek never displayed teleportation capabilities, but I think Tirek still wins with the power of at least three pseudo-gods (Celestial, Luna, and Discord), who possess the capabilities to control celestial bodies and alter reality, respectively.

[Adorkable 2,737]

I wonder how many "x VS Tirek" topics MLP Forums will be getting. xD

 

OT: I think Goku would win pretty easily, he's faced much worse enemies than Tirek. He wouldn't stand a chance, especially since he has now achieved Super Sayain god form.

[Bright Honor 2,671]

Are we counting Goku's abilities as magic or as [i think DBZ claims they are] chi-based or something like that? We'd have to decide whether or not Tirek could absorb Goku's abilities. If not, Goku's has a chance since Tirek never displayed teleportation capabilities, but I think Tirek still wins with the power of at least three pseudo-gods (Celestial, Luna, and Discord), who possess the capabilities to control celestial bodies and alter reality, respectively.

 

I am pretty sure Goku's abilities are chi-based, not the magic in equestria, also added a poll for fun.

[Nuke87654 1,849]

Are we counting Goku's abilities as magic or as [i think DBZ claims they are] chi-based or something like that? We'd have to decide whether or not Tirek could absorb Goku's abilities. If not, Goku's has a chance since Tirek never displayed teleportation capabilities, but I think Tirek still wins with the power of at least three pseudo-gods (Celestial, Luna, and Discord), who possess the capabilities to control celestial bodies and alter reality, respectively.

 

DBZ has made a distinct difference between Chi and magic being different as Babidi was clearly using something that wasn't chi. However, since Tirek can only absorb magic, I'd say Goku is safe as his attacks use his energy instead.

 

However, if we're to pit both of them at the height of their power (SSJ God Goku vs. Tirek after he acquires Alicorn and Discord's magic), I'd say Goku would win on account he'll speed blitz the crap out of Tirek before Tirek can respond.

[BastementSparkle 20,326]

Goku was at planet destroying levels before he ever even went Super. Tirek doesn't stand a chance against him, especially not after the Buu saga. This fight wouldn't really last that long.

[Bright Honor 2,671]

While the actual Super Saiyan God form sort of has a time limit, Goku remembered the feeling and absorbed most of that world into his body. So when he goes normal super saiyan his PL is close to that of his Super Saiyan God mode.

Goku was at planet destroying levels before he ever even went Super. Tirek doesn't stand a chance against him, especially not after the Buu saga. This fight wouldn't really last that long.

 

To be fair with the alicorn power Tirek could probably destroy some planets. Also you guys can vote in the poll if you want as well.

Edited May 13, 2014 by Brighty

[Hive King 2,001]

Goku spanks Tirek like a child and then eats him for lunch before looking for the real fighter

 

Horrific stomp in Goku's favor, Tirek didn't show any hax magic abilities, so he's going to die in seconds

[NavelColt 22,880]

Goku was at planet destroying levels before he ever even went Super. Tirek doesn't stand a chance against him

 

x) Few characters stand a chance against him, because DBZ is one of the most famously OP animes of all time. Only a select few anime characters can be comparable to DBZ's strongest characters, everyone else is more or less boned.

 

Why I never enjoyed Anything vs DBZ topics xD Because more often than not all they encompass of are the fans of DBZ's opposition making reasons for why their character can win, and the DBZ fans saying, 'lolnope, blowing up planets, destroying shit with ones' face, thou stands no chance'.

 

Not that any of that is happening in here, of course. Yet <3

[Bright Honor 2,671]

Goku spanks Tirek like a child and then eats him for lunch before looking for the real fighter

 

Horrific stomp in Goku's favor, Tirek didn't show any hax magic abilities, so he's going to die in seconds

 

Idk I still think that Tirek post-discord power consumption can beat any version of goku that's before the Buu saga.

 

I still think Goku would win, but I think Tirek could put up a decent fight,

Edited May 13, 2014 by Brighty

[Hive King 2,001]

Idk I still think that Tirek post-discord power consumption can beat any version of goku that's before the Buu saga.

 

I still think Goku would win, but I think Tirek could put up a decent fight,

How so? Tirek, trying to take down Twilight, was only capable of doing mountain level destruction. Without the magic hax other MLP characters have, he'll get his best shot tanked easily. Even Saiyan Saga Goku would beat his ass

 

Saiyan Saga Goku>Moon Busting>Tirek

[BastementSparkle 20,326]

Idk I still think that Tirek post-discord power consumption can beat any version of goku that's before the Buu saga.

He was only shown to blow up mountains. As for post-Alicorn, we haven't seen exactly what Tirek was capable of in that state. He was defeated before we could get a clear grasp.

 

 Meanwhile, DBZ power levels have always been a bit wonky. But we have a lot more info on Goku's abilities in general.

Edited May 13, 2014 by BasementPony

[Bright Honor 2,671]

How so? Tirek, trying to take down Twilight, was only capable of doing mountain level destruction. Without the magic hax other MLP characters have, he'll get his best shot tanked easily. Even Saiyan Saga Goku would beat his ass

 

Saiyan Saga Goku>Moon Busting>Tirek

 

You forget that MLP is a kid show so they can't exactly go full out.

[Hive King 2,001]

You forget that MLP is a kid show so they can't exactly go full out.

What? Tirek and Twilight were both fighting at their fullest, yet they were barely tearing up mountains. Don't use the kid's show excuse, they could heave easily just have their battle destroy a huge chunk of the planet, but it didn't

[Bright Honor 2,671]

As someone pointed out, we don't know what Tirek is capable of after absorbing the alicorn magic. His power probably doubled after doing that.

[Radiance64 7,053]

Goku would definitely put up a fight, but does he have the magic of friendship in a box though?

Brute force didn't work out so well for Twilight after all, who at the time of fighting him was probably the most powerful magical creature in Equestria... yet she still got drained. Only the magic of the friendship can drain him and return the magic he's drained, and I don't think Goku could do that easily himself. What if he, say, kills Tirek in his stronger form? Then would all the creatures he stole magic from get it back? Or would it just die with him? The dragon balls don't exist in Equestria where I assume they would fight so he probably couldn't just wish it back. Besides, even though Goku uses Chi and not magic, Tirek is able to drain all kinds of Equestrian magic, including Discord's even, so who knows if he could drain Chi as well?

So yeah, going with Tirek here. Unless Goku brings his friends and they can hit him with friendship blast, which they probably couldn't since they're not ponies...

[Hive King 2,001]

@, 

Congratulations, even doubling his power is nothing. The fact that Goku can destroy a planet, even in the Saiyan Saga, puts him above Tirek, who is AT BEST, a Moon buster

[GXPBlast 597]

@brighty

 

You should add super powered Twilight and her rainbow power vs super saiyen God Goku as well. Since in the end she was victorious against Tirek.

[Bright Honor 2,671]

Goku would definitely put up a fight, but does he have the magic of friendship in a box though?

Brute force didn't work out so well for Twilight after all, who at the time of fighting him was probably the most powerful magical creature in Equestria... yet she still got drained. Only the magic of the friendship can drain him and return the magic he's drained, and I don't think Goku could do that easily himself. What if he, say, kills Tirek in his stronger form? Then would all the creatures he stole magic from get it back? Or would it just die with him? The dragon balls don't exist in Equestria where I assume they would fight so he probably couldn't just wish it back. Besides, even though Goku uses Chi and not magic, Tirek is able to drain all kinds of Equestrian magic, including Discord's even, so who knows if he could drain Chi as well?

So yeah, going with Tirek here. Unless Goku brings his friends and they can hit him with friendship blast, which they probably couldn't since they're not ponies...

 

Twilight only got drained because she accepted Tirek's offer for her friends.

[Hive King 2,001]

 

 

Brute force didn't work out so well for Twilight after all

It worked out plenty well, she just didn't have enough of it

 

 

yet she still got drained

Only by blackmail and because she knew that fighting Tirek would end with no winner, they were dead equal

 

 

What if he, say, kills Tirek in his stronger form? Then would all the creatures he stole magic from get it back? Or would it just die with him? The dragon balls don't exist in Equestria where I assume they would fight so he probably couldn't just wish it back

Not Goku's problem, he's not going to know about that unless he has prep time

 

 

Besides, even though Goku uses Chi and not magic, Tirek is able to drain all kinds of Equestrian magic, including Discord's even, so who knows if he could drain Chi as well?

That's still magic and as for draining chi, that's actually one of the worst things Tirek could try. Not only would it probably not work(Twilight was able to escape his drain effect), but even if it does, Goku has deal with that before, with Yakon. It's pretty simple, just feed them too much power and watch them overload

@brighty

You should add super powered Twilight and her rainbow power vs super saiyen God Goku as well. Since in the end she was victorious against Tirek.

Rainbow Powered Twilight has no feats other than taking down Tirek, placing her is hard.

 

For all we know, she might be as strong as Omega Shenron or she might be as strong as Raditz, either is enough to get the job done

[GXPBlast 597]

Either way, a Twilight vs Goku battle would be an interesting matchup. I wonder what everyone's thoughts would be on that matchup?

Edited May 13, 2014 by GXPBlast

[Zekromic 1,054]

Tirek, nuff said, Goku don't stand a chance

 

From this point however........ Tirek might stand a chance

 

From this on..... Tirek shouldn't even bother, Goku don't even need Super Saiyan

Edited May 13, 2014 by Zekromic

[Oblivion 20,266]

Well, since goku is a god now, I would say that he would win with EASE!

Either way, a Twilight vs Goku battle would be an interesting matchup. I wonder what everyone's thoughts would be on that matchup?

Base Twilight wouldn't stand a chance or even be able to harm goku, she would have to have the magic of all three princeses, and even then once goku went ssj she would be completly outclassed.

 

Now, if the mane 6 worked as a team, and used their rainbow power, it is possible that they together, might, MIGHT be able to catch goku off guard and beat him in his ssj1 form.

 

And like I said that is only IF Goku dosn't take them sersiouly, or starts to mock them and gets cocky because "Hehe, cute ponies!" type thing, if he would take them dead serious the whole time, I doubt he would even need ssj to even beat all the mane 6 with rainbow powers!

Edited May 13, 2014 by 0blivion

[Robloxman25 1]

If you think Goku can not win. You are the wrongest person ever.