Why do people dislike The Living Tombstone?

[Lonk Chase 255]

  On 2015-12-24 at 3:56 PM, AbeLinkedIn said:

Pretty much my thoughts on the guy, at least from a musical standpoint. I'm sure he's a decent person (I never met him personally, either online or IRL) but there are far more talented individuals out there who don't have a sliver of what TLT has. 

It's Digibrony Syndrome.

You did it first, so even if you're crap, you're the most popular 'cause more people have heard of you 'cause you've been around the longest.

Ah, the interwebz.

[AbeLinkedIn 69]

  On 2015-12-24 at 6:11 PM, lonkfania said:

It's Digibrony Syndrome.

You did it first, so even if you're crap, you're the most popular 'cause more people have heard of you 'cause you've been around the longest.

Ah, the interwebz.

Hit the nail squarely on the head, my friend. It's the same with a product in high demand that scalpers know will be sought after, and will hope some schmuck will buy off of them for convenience because they got to it first. 

 

Besides, TLT (And Mando's guilty of this too, sadly) like to cling to what's popular to get more views. The dude did a Dog of Wisdom remix for Celestia's sake. 

[Lonk Chase 255]

  On 2015-12-24 at 6:18 PM, AbeLinkedIn said:

The dude did a Dog of Wisdom remix for Celestia's sake. 

Oh god help us.

 

I always thought brony songs were lacking in some respects. It's either good instrumentals but poor vocals or poor everything plus capitalism.

[AbeLinkedIn 69]

I just do instrumentals because my vocals are godawful, and I'm lucky to get a few views personally (Then again I don't do much pony stuff) 

 

TLT could autotune a fart and get thousands of views. 

[Lonk Chase 255]

  On 2015-12-24 at 6:39 PM, AbeLinkedIn said:

I just do instrumentals because my vocals are godawful, and I'm lucky to get a few views personally (Then again I don't do much pony stuff) 

 

TLT could autotune a fart and get thousands of views. 

You just triggered an sensitive SJW by saying "fart".

Good job.

 

*starts to chuckle*

[Swish and Flick 63]

  On 2014-10-14 at 5:48 PM, ponytheorist said:

I had this question for some time now. There seem to be a fair amount of people that dislike music that The Living Tombstone makes. I was wondering why this is. Personally, I really enjoy  his music, so I don't really know why people think he makes bad music

 

Because people have different musical tastes? Alot of people don't like the beatles, or mozart, or 50 cent , it really just depends on personal taste and it's not like it's a personal attack for someone to say they don't like a musical artist. 

[Grepper 3,192]

The Living Tombstone isn't terrible, but I would say he's overrated, probably because he was one of the first brony musicians on the scene. His singing unfortunately falls into the "so bad, it's good" territory.

 

Even though I don't care for FNaF or most of his songs about it, I can't help liking his song "Die in a Fire."

 

  On 2015-12-24 at 7:31 PM, Swish & Flick said:

Because people have different musical tastes? Alot of people don't like the beatles, or mozart, or 50 cent , it really just depends on personal taste and it's not like it's a personal attack for someone to say they don't like a musical artist. 

That's a very good point!

[Phosphorous 136]

People have different tastes. For me, I prefer Eurobeat Brony.

[Holiday Agnaktor 1,436]

I liked a few of his songs, but then I saw a live performance of 'em.

It was horrible.

 

Since then I've lost all hope in 'em.

[Lonk Chase 255]

  On 2015-12-24 at 8:12 PM, Grepper said:

The Living Tombstone isn't terrible, but I would say he's overrated, probably because he was one of the first brony musicians on the scene. His singing unfortunately falls into the "so bad, it's good" territory.

 

Even though I don't care for FNaF or most of his songs about it, I can't help liking his song "Die in a Fire."

 

That's a very good point!

You just linked the people of this post to TVTropes.

What have you done?

[Grepper 3,192]

  On 2015-12-27 at 1:53 AM, lonkfania said:

You just linked the people of this post to TVTropes.

What have you done?

 

*Laughs Evilly*

Have fun getting stuck there for hours!

[Izanagi 176]

i dislike something hes done. he's made remix's of two songs, Luna and Discord. but now the original creator is sorta..regretting it,  because now everyone constantly tells him that his version sucks and TLT id better, so.

[Lonk Chase 255]

  On 2015-12-27 at 1:59 AM, Alexia ikarasu said:

i dislike something hes done. he's made remix's of two songs, Luna and Discord. but now the original creator is sorta..regretting it,  because now everyone constantly tells him that his version sucks and TLT id better, so.

PewDiePie Syndrome.

You have no control over your fanbase, so your fanbase is stupid and you can't help it.

[Izanagi 176]

  On 2015-12-27 at 2:07 AM, lonkfania said:

PewDiePie Syndrome.

You have no control over your fanbase, so your fanbase is stupid and you can't help it.

i do understand that, ubt it would be nice of tombstone to atleast say something about that. i fee like the original creator would be rather hurt by that >W<

[Lonk Chase 255]

  On 2015-12-27 at 2:10 AM, Alexia ikarasu said:

i do understand that, ubt it would be nice of tombstone to atleast say something about that. i fee like the original creator would be rather hurt by that >W<

The internet does not work that way.

Sorry.

[Izanagi 176]

  On 2015-12-27 at 2:11 AM, lonkfania said:

The internet does not work that way.

Sorry.

well, i know that of course. it's why i said "it'd be nice' ^^

[Lonk Chase 255]

  On 2015-12-27 at 2:12 AM, Alexia ikarasu said:

well, i know that of course. it's why i said "it'd be nice' ^^

I have a sinking feeling you keep replying because you like brohoofs.

I do too, don't worry.

[Guest]

Hello!

 

I actually have met the guy. He is living with a friend of mine and as far as I can see he's a pretty normal guy. If you don't like his music that's fine, but don't hate the guy for his fans or his music.

[Izanagi 176]

  On 2015-12-27 at 2:13 AM, lonkfania said:

I have a sinking feeling you keep replying because you like brohoofs.

I do too, don't worry.

i honestly barely notice the brohoofs. i just like talking to people, and i find it rude to not say anything =3

[Magic Rasin 180]

  I don't hate him as a person, I just don't like most of the music he makes. That reason alone is how most people who "dislike" him feel. He has some decent songs, but most of his music just isn't enjoyable to listen to for me. Just a matter of personal taste is all.

[AbeLinkedIn 69]

  On 2015-12-27 at 2:14 AM, Key Sharkz said:

Hello!

 

I actually have met the guy. He is living with a friend of mine and as far as I can see he's a pretty normal guy. If you don't like his music that's fine, but don't hate the guy for his fans or his music.

I never met him personally, so I can't speak of how he is personally, and even if I did rub elbows once, you can't really make an honest judgment based on one meetup. I'm just not huge on his music and to a lesser extend, some of his fans, not him as a person. I'm sure he's awesome or, like you say, normal and not letting the fame go to his head like it has other fandom musicians sadly. 

[Hocus Pocus 636]

I've really only listened to TLT's remixes... And while what I've heard from him isn't really bad, none of it ever comes close to the original versions.

[Pulse Wave 44]

I myself don't dislike him. Personally speaking, he seems to be a nice fellow and doesn't make a big deal out of his fame. I remember when he was at 2014 GalaCon. The Electronic Musicians panel (within the duration of which he made almost one complete track) was filled to the last seat 15 minutes before it started because everypony wanted to swoon over Tombstone, and the club night was well-visited, to say the least, because he was among the DJs. But he also joined the audience of the Traditional Musicians panel (instead of hanging around with the VIPs), and I met him when we lined up for questions.

 

Guess a great deal of the hatred against him simply comes from his popularity. Once your #HorseFame reaches a critical mass, you're accused of being a fame whore. See MandoPony. Besides, his fame has come to a point where it feeds back on itself. He's #HorseFamous for being so #HorseFamous. At least Mando jokes about it — about his own #HorseFame and Tombstone's by mimicking both Tombstone and Mic in "Horse Famous".

 

Being one of the most famous electronic producers in this fandom by far made him the #1 target for all those who don't like electronic music at all, especially the metalheads and the alternative rock crowd.

 

And being so popular, he's a natural target for hipsters. "If it's popular, it sucks automatically."

 

Whatever he makes largely sounds the same. Modern Talking Syndrome (the German 1980s pop duo, not the FL Studio plugin). Dunno whether that's all he can do, whether that's the quickest way, or whether he simply wanted to cultivate a "signature sound" for himself (at least he isn't really ripping off someone else).

 

Also, he got popular mostly by remixing existing and popular brony music. Ever since the Rolling Stone magazine featured his remix of "Discord" instead of Eurobeat's original, making it more popular than the original, it seemed like he was piggybacking on the fame of other brony musicians to the point where most newfoals believe that it was Eurobeat who remixed Tombstone. (Yeah, Eurobeat made loads of covers himself, but what really got him popular were "Luna" and "Discord".) I mean, Mic the Microphone was mobbed out of the bronydom because he was loudly accused of not making anything original of his own, always relying on somepony else.

 

Then there are probably new-coming or at least relatively unknown musicians and producers who might complain that Tombstone has only ever remixed big names.

 

Last but not least, he started making non-pony music. Non-pony fan music in particular. See MandoPony again and others. Can be a sure-fire death warrant for a brony musician.

[Lil Pip 775]

I think it simply because he knows how to work his audience, like we don't know if his stuff comes from his heart or if he is using fandoms to make a quick buck. No double meaning intended.

[Lonk Chase 255]

  On 2016-01-01 at 2:04 PM, Pulse Wave said:

I myself don't dislike him. Personally speaking, he seems to be a nice fellow and doesn't make a big deal out of his fame. I remember when he was at 2014 GalaCon. The Electronic Musicians panel (within the duration of which he made almost one complete track) was filled to the last seat 15 minutes before it started because everypony wanted to swoon over Tombstone, and the club night was well-visited, to say the least, because he was among the DJs. But he also joined the audience of the Traditional Musicians panel (instead of hanging around with the VIPs), and I met him when we lined up for questions.

 

Guess a great deal of the hatred against him simply comes from his popularity. Once your #HorseFame reaches a critical mass, you're accused of being a fame whore. See MandoPony. Besides, his fame has come to a point where it feeds back on itself. He's #HorseFamous for being so #HorseFamous. At least Mando jokes about it — about his own #HorseFame and Tombstone's by mimicking both Tombstone and Mic in "Horse Famous".

 

Being one of the most famous electronic producers in this fandom by far made him the #1 target for all those who don't like electronic music at all, especially the metalheads and the alternative rock crowd.

 

And being so popular, he's a natural target for hipsters. "If it's popular, it sucks automatically."

 

Whatever he makes largely sounds the same. Modern Talking Syndrome (the German 1980s pop duo, not the FL Studio plugin). Dunno whether that's all he can do, whether that's the quickest way, or whether he simply wanted to cultivate a "signature sound" for himself (at least he isn't really ripping off someone else).

 

Also, he got popular mostly by remixing existing and popular brony music. Ever since the Rolling Stone magazine featured his remix of "Discord" instead of Eurobeat's original, making it more popular than the original, it seemed like he was piggybacking on the fame of other brony musicians to the point where most newfoals believe that it was Eurobeat who remixed Tombstone. (Yeah, Eurobeat made loads of covers himself, but what really got him popular were "Luna" and "Discord".) I mean, Mic the Microphone was mobbed out of the bronydom because he was loudly accused of not making anything original of his own, always relying on somepony else.

 

Then there are probably new-coming or at least relatively unknown musicians and producers who might complain that Tombstone has only ever remixed big names.

 

Last but not least, he started making non-pony music. Non-pony fan music in particular. See MandoPony again and others. Can be a sure-fire death warrant for a brony musician.

(every paragraph corresponds to the same paragraph in order in the original post, btw)

 

I have not talked about the personal life of TLT because I never experienced him in person.

 

There's a saying somewhere maybe that fame corrupts you. You saw that MLP episode with Dashie getting a bunch of fame and starts being an a-hole about it, right? Some people may feel that way with TLT. He's gotten so much fame, he can't imagine himself without it. So, he tries his hardest to keep that fame. A la Dog of Wisdom remix(s).

 

*raises hand*

 

Nothing to say about this paragraph.

 

You got that right. It seems like for a lot of his music, at least to me, it is largely like any other EDM artist in the world. It's talent that got him here, not his style.

 

There are some times where TLT made "original" compositions, but he got to fame through Discord-esc tracks. I think this is another reason why people jump on the bandwagon of hating him (myself kinda included). He usually just does remixes of other tracks. TLT may be the next Mic.

 

That can be explained (with a little bit of hot sauce, if you know what I mean). He wants his fame forever, right? What's popular at the time, what would be in most people's heads? Let's capitalize on that by remixing it! Notice when the Dog of Wisdom phase of YouTub was happening, he made TWO remixes of it? Which right now both in total have accumulated over 4 million views? Same thing with FNAF. He made a whole bunch of songs for that when it was popular. Most people probably know him today by the FNAF songs. Heck, it's the first thing that comes up when you search him. "the living tombstone fnaf".

 

See: Above paragraph

 

So yeah, that's my thoughts. Feel free to be an SJW if you want and start a flame war.