news Britain has left the EU, your thoughts?

[nolongerabout 403]

@@boiteporte,

 

So the pound has lost 14 pence to the dollar. I consider that a small price to pay for independence, nothing on the money we sent to Brussels. And we all knew the economy would take a hit if we left. You see, to some people Britain is more than the world's 5th most powerful economy. It's our home, our nation. And while we're hardly what we used to be, we have pride, a damn lot of it. So when some frog bastards thumb their noses at us, we tend to get a bit angry, and show them we don't fuck around here. I hope the EU breaks up, no, I demand it. It only serves the corporate bastards who run it. Germany and France treat all the other member nations like shit because they control the majority. Look at what they did to the Mediterranean countries. Greece is buggered, first by the shoddy bailouts and then by the migrant crisis, and Italy is probably about to collapse. And if Italy goes, Spain will probably go with it. It's a viscous cycle of keeping the more southern countries in an endless state of economic chaos.

 

We didn't vote out because we wanted a damaged economy, even though we knew it'd happen. We voted out because we were fed up with continental bureaucrats shoveling their crap legislation all over us. We were fed up letting the rest of Europe use our fishing areas, and restricting how much we can fish. We were bloody well fed up with getting dealt the shit hands by Mr Juncker. have you seen David Cameron's "Re-negotiation"? It's pitiful. Thank god we don't have to live with it. We get to fight on ground of our own choosing, rather than be overwhelmed by the European conglomerate.

[Xylosian 140]

  On 2016-06-24 at 6:51 AM, ForthEorl said:

@@boiteporte,

 

So the pound has lost 14 pence to the dollar. I consider that a small price to pay for independence, nothing on the money we sent to Brussels. And we all knew the economy would take a hit if we left. You see, to some people Britain is more than the world's 5th most powerful economy. It's our home, our nation. And while we're hardly what we used to be, we have pride, a damn lot of it. So when some frog bastards thumb their noses at us, we tend to get a bit angry, and show them we don't fuck around here. I hope the EU breaks up, no, I demand it. It only serves the corporate bastards who run it. Germany and France treat all the other member nations like shit because they control the majority. Look at what they did to the Mediterranean countries. Greece is buggered, first by the shoddy bailouts and then by the migrant crisis, and Italy is probably about to collapse. And if Italy goes, Spain will probably go with it. It's a viscous cycle of keeping the more southern countries in an endless state of economic chaos.

 

We didn't vote out because we wanted a damaged economy, even though we knew it'd happen. We voted out because we were fed up with continental bureaucrats shoveling their crap legislation all over us. We were fed up letting the rest of Europe use our fishing areas, and restricting how much we can fish. We were bloody well fed up with getting dealt the shit hands by Mr Juncker. have you seen David Cameron's "Re-negotiation"? It's pitiful. Thank god we don't have to live with it. We get to fight on ground of our own choosing, rather than be overwhelmed by the European conglomerate.

I couldn't agree more with you. Losing a couple pence for independence is I price I would pay for freedom. Especially being free from corrupt politicians fucking with GREAT motherfucking Britain. EU must be dissolved for the sake of all countries in Europe.

[Troblems 5,619]

Guys, I know this is a major world event, and some back and forth chatter is to be expected, but try and keep the thread on topic as possible, as it will get quite large, please and thank you!

[Malinter 3,064]

The next few years will be interesting. I'm genuinely curious as to what the EU does without us. Personally I hope our exit makes it get its act together and work more effectively for those countries that remain within it. (Including ourselves ofc, takes two years to legally untangle ourselves from it XD)

[Aurora Glimmer 494]

  On 2016-06-24 at 7:19 AM, Venomous said:

So, I have done some research on this and I still have a bit of a question... What exactly does this entail?

If anyone could help me out here, I would really appreciate it; as I am a bit off when it comes to some world events.

Look up John Oliver's video on the Brexit.

[nolongerabout 403]

@@Venomous,

 

We Britons, upset with how we have been treated by the EU, have voted to end our political involvement within the European Union. After years of being told what to do by the European Commission, a group of unelected bureaucrats that could go over the head of our own democratically elected government, we have decided to transfer that power back to our government, or, more simply, stop taking laws made by the commision. It means we can repeal any laws put into effect by the commission, and prepare our own in their place. It will also mean withdrawing from the European single market, which allows countries within it to trade freely, and transfer assets without hindrance. However, this will allow the UK to make its own trade deals with the rest of the world, which it was previously unable to do as a member of the single market.

 

And don't look up John Oliver's video on Brexit. It has more lies than a conservative general election manifesto.

Edited June 24, 2016 by ForthEorl

[Varrack 1,080]

David Cameron just resigned. Or, more accurately, he'll be out by October.

 

I'm supportive of Britain's choice to leave the EU and hope that new leadership and newfound freedom will allow it to trade more and control it's borders and regulations fully. I'm glad to see that the people decided to make a change to a system that clearly wasn't working.

[Malinter 3,064]

The long and short of it is this.

 

EU law will no longer override British Law

[Lisa 5,553]

I'm so glad the UK decided to leave. Brits should have full freedom over laws. But why did David Cameron resign? It's as if he rage quitted, lol. 

[nolongerabout 403]

@,

 

It's because he got it wrong. He went against the majority of the populace, even if it was only by 4%. Also, half the Tory party is in full rebellion mode at the moment, and they need someone to Unify them. Who that is I don't know, but it sure as hell isn't Dodgy Dave.

[Verily British 145]

I absolutely gave up trying to find a legitimate reason for my vote, so in the end I just decided that I don't really care. I voted to leave because I just wanted to see what would happen.

 

And I'm still curious to see what would happen. Will we rise up anew, a truly Greater Britain? Will we crumble and fall? Or will very little actually change?

[Buck Testa 5,505]

I kind of see where British people are coming  from. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJJZLwkcEhU

 

Hopefully with this new direction in their country they can better handle the extremism that grips their nation. I know there are plenty who are willing to integrate, but for those who aren't and for those who are literally trying to forcibly enforce a set of laws that has ripped apart the middle east for centuries, I think they would need to look elsewhere. 

[Raritas 6,820]

I voted remain and am pretty gutted this morning. It's a complete leap in the unknown, and it will for sure separate the UK, especially seeing how Scotland and Northern Ireland both voted to remain. It's sad to see that it appears that some of the more xenophobic older generations decided their leave votes entirely on migration, failing to acknowledge the economic repercussions that will most likely not affect them as much as my generation years down the line.

 

Disappointed overall, history has been made.

[Once In A Blue Moon 895]

  On 2016-06-24 at 7:19 AM, Venomous said:

So, I have done some research on this and I still have a bit of a question... What exactly does this entail? If anyone could help me out here, I would really appreciate it; as I am a bit off when it comes to some world events.

 

The thing is, no-one knows what this really entails. That's the concern of the financial markets - uncertainty is bad for business, so our economy will take a hit (it has already) and will keep taking hits until the UK settles on what it is going to do next. We remain in the EU until two years after we trigger 'article 50' (the process for leaving) and we will have to conclude all negotiations with the EU within those two years unless all the remaining EU countries agree to extend the negotiating window. When to trigger article 50 is the biggest question at the moment.

 

There has been much observation about the models the UK could adopt outside the EU, although no clear consensus on the part of Leave. My preferred option is a Norway-style arrangement, whereby partial tariff-free access is granted to the country in exchange for paying into the EU and accepting freedom of movement as well as some EU regulation. This will not be popular with the anti-immigration vote, but with a massively pro-EU parliament it is the most likely option that I see. Whoever wins the Conservative leadership contest will certainly set the tone for negotiations (this was an internal struggle by the Conservative party more than it was anything else.) 

 

 

Regardless of what the UK does, it will not be free of EU regulation entirely - in order to sell a product on the European market, the product must comply with EU standards. As such, anything we export to the EU (some 40% of out total exports, I think) will need to match those standards. Such is the size and power of the EU market that even China adheres to some of these standards.

 

What happens to the EU is also a factor. There has been a rise in nationalist anti-EU sentiment across the continent, and this will certainly embolden leave groups across the EU. If I were to take a Machiavellian approach, I would say that if we are going to wound the EU then that wound had better kill it fast - if the whole organisation were to collapse before negotiations ended then we might be able to salvage a trade-only agreement with the other major countries, and preserve the treaties we have with foreign countries. However, as someone who is ideologically inclined towards the EU, I don't want that to happen.

 

Disclaimer: I voted remain and am deeply worried by the consequences of this. This explanation will, naturally, be coloured by this.

Edited June 24, 2016 by Once In A Blue Moon

[Krouton 13]

Well color me surprised! They actually did it!

Edit: Dang and on top of that the Prime Minister is resigning. That's insane.

Edited June 24, 2016 by Krouton

[ScopeEva 38]

Well I can already tell I'm going to be expressing an unpopular opinion here but I felt myself filled with a cold dread at the news this morning.

 

My worker's rights?  Gone.

Free passage through Europe?  Gone.

Ability to work and study in Europe?  Gone.

Easy trade with the rest our nearest countries?  Gone.

Net neutrality?  Gone.  

Ten percent of the value of the pound?  Already gone.

 

I hope it was worth it.  It's hardly the end of the world but I have a feeling life in Briton is about to get a lot harder for the average man and even more so for the younger generation (me) who are going to have to live with this decision the longest.  

 

On the bright side UKIP no longer has much of a foot to stand on now it's primary policy has been an achieved by someone else.

 

Oh, and apparently some fishermen will be able to fish where they like again. Maybe.

 

[Mentis Soliloquy 3,027]

Well as a visitor in the UK right now the exchange rates are good for me, everything is cheaper now. But as an Australian I think it was a good decision.

[The Cynical Lone Wolf 615]

Fuck Hydra/ The Banks .The whole word is going right down the crapper;Those are my thoughts

[Mesme Rize 15,687]

I am neither sad nor am i happy. But it's kinda idiotic to say that the world will end now. I see  this as a sort of opportunity. If the UK is doing well alone, maybe other countries will also join the cause, who knows?

 

At the very least, it's certainly an interesting turn of events.

[TeeSix 116]

I may have left Britain for New Zealand in 2011, but this is still interesting to watch. While I'd have voted Remain myself if I was both old enough and still there, I can see the points of both Leave and Remain's arguments. Either way, it'll be interesting to kick back here, half the world away, and watch what happens next.

Edited June 24, 2016 by AC IV E1

[Malinter 3,064]

  On 2016-06-24 at 9:26 AM, Raritas said:

. It's sad to see that it appears that some of the more xenophobic older generations decided their leave votes entirely on migration, failing to acknowledge the economic repercussions that will most likely not affect them as much as my generation years down the line.

 

That is incorrect. Older generations are not all "xenophobic", they were just sick and tried of EU laws overriding ours. Other grievances  included EU countries over-fishing UK waters, France letting immigrants just waltz through the channel tunnel with no checks on them or anything and the general "F**k you" attitude we receieved from the Eu when Cameron tried to get a few issues resolved that might have removed the need for a referendum at all.

 

 This has been building up for 40 years, with successive governments just covering their ears and pretending nothing was wrong. Its no wonder people would choose to leave the first chance they got. Perhaps if we had been given a referendum sooner (when we ASKED for one), maybe we may have chosen to remain.

 

Alas, the EU refuses to reform. So what is the point in staying in it if that is the case? Leave is our better option in the long run.

Edited June 24, 2016 by Malinter

[Concerned Bystander 2,904]

The EU is a bloated, inefficient, bureaucratic monster.  Sooner or later it will collapse under its own weight, we're far better off getting out while we can rather than waiting to try and extricate ourselves from the wreckage.  Already, spurred by our success, other countries all across Europe are demanding referendums of their own, France, Italy and the Netherlands are coming under increasing pressure to give their people the choice.

 

Sure, we'll take a bit of a hit in the short term, the markets fear change, and this is a big one.  But that will be transient, it will stabilise, normalise, and then return to growth.

[simba86 1,541]

the begining of the end for the EU I think, I think britain will be better off

if germany decides to leave like britain has then the whole thing will fall apart because no one else can afford to bail out greece and keep loaning money to the poorer EU countries

[Guest]

The fact that Scotland and Ireland didn't want to leave and Scotland tried to declare independence before, means that there is a possibility this could break up the United Kingdom.

[Summer Breeze 2,528]

okay, pleas don't be mad at me now but I think don't like it. I'm dutch myself so I prabably don't know much about it and you will all shout at me and such but pleas, don't.

 

I realy think it's bad, now that britain left, other countries will think that the EU is just a little club you can join and leave whenever you feel like it. in my doomsday brain I already see a whole lot of other countries leave, then trump becomes president of the US and boom, we have one gigantic war and no one is going to help eachother, which was why the EU was made, to help eachother in times of emergency. I'm seriously scared for the furure now, and I know I shouldn't but I am.

 

and, on a more perosnal level, now my whole studie dream and dream future is screwed. I really really wanted to go studie in britain once I finished highschool, or do at least a part of my studie there but  now I cant. and it's also going to be a lot harder to go live there when I grow up. I realy would have loved to move to england when I finished my studie but that's going to be a lot harder now. and if I did, it would be a lot harder for my family to come visit me now that there is no free traveling between the EU and britain.