mega thread What is your sexuality ?

[Z.J.A. 136]

All the homophobic remarks on this page make me upset.

 

All the ignorant remarks make me more upset.

 

Doesn't MLP teach to tolerate everyone?

Edited May 15, 2012 by river_angel

[Fizz. 1,078]

Yes, homophillic and homosexual are very different. Neither really last all too long, unless their is a substantial reason for it's occurence. It dies out by a person's 50s and 60s.

 

Then again, so does most lust for straight relationships. Since, y'know, testosterone and like biology and stuff, but a person wanting the same gender is different because yeah, y'know.

 

 

Right.

 

Not to mention you post has absolutely no evidence. Mine doesn't either, so both statements should be taken less than seriously.

[KakeiTheWolf 652]

Oh, wait, I see where this is going, never mind. Fire your salvo, I don't care.

Edited May 15, 2012 by Metyllisk

[Guest]

I'm straight. I'd rather look at women, though.

However, before you say I'm not straight...I'd never be intimate with a lady.

[Zoop 8,384]

not everyday you hear that term....

Wow, heterophobic... Now that's something I haven't heard used before...

A joke, nothing more.

[spas-ticShotty 3,584]

I like boobies, so that pretty much answers everything.

[confusedCraftsperson 8]

Is it too late to join? No, but seriously, I'm a lesbian but gender-wise, I identify as non-binary. :U Also, the English Bible is a translation and therefor an interpretation.

[Prince Lightning Da Cute 619]

 

 

You are making completely erroneous statements.

 

Knowing both you and I are Catholics (or at least I believe you are Catholic), I will address your statements with the Catholic teachings.

 

"Gays are not allowed" is in no way, shape, or form a teaching of the Church. That view is neither presented from the official Church teachings through the Vatican, the clergy nor through the Bible.

Saying it is is a horrible misconception regarding Church teaching.

 

To start off: equal treatment of homosexuals and the welcoming of homosexuals to the Catholic Church is an official teaching of the Church.

This is well defined in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, which is the official collection of all Church teachings and explains them in greater detail than I will go into here. I do recommend reading that if you would like the completely official statements along with the reasoning behind such rules.

 

Sexual relationships between people of the same sex are strictly prohibited. As such, homosexuals are suppose to maintain of life of chastity and celibacy. That's not to say that only homosexual relationships have rules regarding chastity and celibacy.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church also goes over heterosexual relationships, albeit not using the term 'heterosexual'.

 

What constitutes an 'inappropriate' relationship?

First and foremost is sexual intercourse and other actions that would be considered carnal lust when performed outside of their purpose. This is also supported by Scripture, in case you were wondering. Sexual relationships and highly sensual relationships would also be regarded as inappropriate.

 

Not really gonna go too far into this, as I've already addressed my main point, but I think I've said enough to give someone at least a more accurate view of Church teachings.

Protestant denominations vary from one extreme to another and they are also not the teachings I follow or agree with. Therefore I will not go into them.

 

Challenge Accepted LRP, my PM is being prepared.

[Feather Spiral 1,892]

Heh, LRP. I never knew that clergy overtly advocated gay tolerance. Though I was very much certain it did NOT oppose it.

Cynical atheists and rationalists should see these arguments, and stop bashing religion for "promoting ignorance".

 

However, if I'm interpreting you correctly... for the Catholic church, any sort of sexual intercourse is either lustful or reproductive.

(Below this line, I want you to know that I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, even though it may sound like I'm accusing you.)

 

This is an overly simplified, dichotomous view, of something way more complicated. And it's a rather poor argument for prohibiting same-gender sex, if that's the main reason.

Eroticism is not necessarily done out of lust, but sometimes for altruistic purposes, to please your partner. It's like hugging or kissing, in a way, only more intimate; you're showing a sign of affection, and the person is happy to accept it.

To understand that as "lust", one must have a rather poor understanding of how a human mind works.

Edited May 15, 2012 by Feather Spiral

[KakeiTheWolf 652]

More or less, it isn't easy to tell exactly how to address the subject of homosexuality when it comes to Christianity. Very few verses of the Bible (In any manuscript) address the subject, and there isn't anything on the subject in the New Testament. However, judging by Christ's actions and the way he treated everypony, it is to be assumed you are supposed to accept their choice but not have to agree with it.

 

My hostility is not related to the love portion, but the sex portion. I hate sex, but I also hate when ponies use sex as a weapon in the belief they are entitled to per their sexuality. Whilst this is not always the case, the fact it is ever the case is enough to earned my hatred. If people want to waste their time on something stupid like love, gay or straight, they can go ahead. As long as they don't hurt anyone, I'm fine... but the moment they do hurt someone, I will hate them.

 

Also, if your concept of gays was built from the sample of gays I personally have met, you probably wouldn't be very keen on them either. For every gay I met, they were such terrible ponies that I saw them as terrible long before I knew they were gay.

Edited May 15, 2012 by Metyllisk

[Killian Jones 2,655]

-snip-

 

As I read it there you are wrong about equality. You can't use the word equal and then start listing all the things you can't do

 

What the church basically allows is for you to have a really close friend. And that is all. That's not really accepting, and that is really not enough.

 

While it is slightly tolerant, I feel it is not tolerant enough and it means the Church will not be gaining any favour from me. Even if it is more tolerant then for example Islam or Judaism.

 

And I would also point out that perhaps the more open attitude towards homosexuality is not a feeling shared throughout all the members and staff.

 

If you want to take this up further, you can PM me or something. I won't take it any further here.

[Fizz. 1,078]

More or less, it isn't easy to tell exactly how to address the subject of homosexuality when it comes to Christianity. Very few verses of the Bible (In any manuscript) address the subject, and there isn't anything on the subject in the New Testament. However, judging by Christ's actions and the way he treated everypony, it is to be assumed you are supposed to accept their choice but not have to agree with it.

 

My hostility is not related to the love portion, but the sex portion. I hate sex, but I also hate when ponies use sex as a weapon in the belief they are entitled to per their sexuality. Whilst this is not always the case, the fact it is ever the case is enough to earned my hatred. If people want to waste their time on something stupid like love, gay or straight, they can go ahead. As long as they don't hurt anyone, I'm fine... but the moment they do hurt someone, I will hate them.

 

Also, if your concept of gays was built from the sample of gays I personally have met, you probably wouldn't be very keen on them either. For every gay I met, they were such terrible ponies that I saw them as terrible long before I knew they were gay.

 

My opinion of you approved about...one million percent. ^^ At first I thought you were a hateful member who just outright thought gays were terrible, but you've shown to be a lot more tolerant.

 

Also, a "waste of time" is relevant: as long as a person contributes to the world and isn't just sucking up welfare checks and eating, then live and let live. If you don't hurt anyone else or hurt yourself seriously, then it's all good.

 

Also, for the bottom portion: All the Jehovah Witnesses's I've met were terrible people, and were terrible before I knew them as so. But that doesn't mean all are like that. Honestly, I know quite a few terrible gays myself, but there are more bad people than good, so when only about 5%~ of the population is gay, there's not gonna be a ton of wonderful gays.

 

Also, how were those homosexs bad? Were they just flamboyant/annoying, or rather just plain rude people?

[Tenshinohana 264]

I believe I am a bisexual, who leans towards men. I could be sexually active with a woman, but I don't think I'd be comfortable with having a girlfriend. Especially not living with a girl... unless she's just a roomie, ofc.

[KakeiTheWolf 652]

My opinion of you approved about...one million percent. ^^ At first I thought you were a hateful member who just outright thought gays were terrible, but you've shown to be a lot more tolerant.

 

Also, a "waste of time" is relevant: as long as a pony contributes to the world and isn't just sucking up welfare checks and eating, then live and let live. If you don't hurt anypony else or hurt yourself seriously, then it's all good.

 

Also, for the bottom portion: All the Jehovah Witnesses's I've met were terrible ponies, and were terrible before I knew them as so. But that doesn't mean all are like that. Honestly, I know quite a few terrible gays myself, but there are more bad ponies than good, so when only about 5%~ of the population is gay, there's not gonna be a ton of wonderful gays.

 

Also, how were those homosexs bad? Were they just flamboyant/annoying, or rather just plain rude ponies?

 

First off, I have been trying to make clear that I hate when they drag the concept of sex into the picture, because I hate sex as a concept in all its forms.

 

What I mean by a waste of time is that love doesn't really have a strictly pragmatic use. More or less, its a feeling, but love won't end world hunger or cure cancer. One could argue love can make world peace, but that is not the kind of love implied.

 

And when I mean bad, I mean they were downright horrible people. Many were violent, some used their homosexuality as an excuse to attempt to rape people, and many of them are sarcastic and hateful. If gays are trying to enforce a message about love, why has every gay I've met spread nothing but hate?

[Z.J.A. 136]

First off, I have been trying to make clear that I hate when they drag the concept of sex into the picture, because I hate sex as a concept in all its forms.

 

What I mean by a waste of time is that love doesn't really have a strictly pragmatic use. More or less, its a feeling, but love won't end world hunger or cure cancer. One could argue love can make world peace, but that is not the kind of love implied.

 

And when I mean bad, I mean they were downright horrible people. Many were violent, some used their homosexuality as an excuse to attempt to rape people, and many of them are sarcastic and hateful. If gays are trying to enforce a message about love, why has every gay I've met spread nothing but hate?

 

So I don't agree with you about love or sex, but I'll agree to disagree, and respect your opinion.

 

I'm sorry that your sample of gays have been in my opinion terrible. All of the gays I know, though this is my perspective, have been the nicest most tolerant people I have ever met. So the gay population is probably between these two extremes.

 

Those sound like horrible people...I'm so sorry

[KakeiTheWolf 652]

So I don't agree with you about love or sex, but I'll agree to disagree, and respect your opinion.

 

I'm sorry that your sample of gays have been in my opinion terrible. All of the gays I know, though this is my perspective, have been the nicest most tolerant ponies I have ever met. So the gay population is probably between these two extremes.

 

Those sound like horrible ponies...I'm so sorry

 

Again, you can't expect I would have the kindest view on gays when the only ones I have ever known used their homosexuality as a weapon of violence, a conduit for hatred, and as a tool for depriving others of freedom and happiness. I.E. Rapists/Child molesters.

 

Part of why I hate sex is because a gay person tried to rape me. What worse of a first impression can a person make than implying they think their homosexuality puts them above the law?

[Z.J.A. 136]

Again, you can't expect I would have the kindest view on gays when the only ones I have ever known used their homosexuality as a weapon of violence, a conduit for hatred, and as a tool for depriving others of freedom and happiness. I.E. Rapists/Child molesters.

 

Part of why I hate sex is because a gay person tried to rape me. What worse of a first impression can a person make than implying they think their homosexuality puts them above the law?

 

Homosexuality does not put them above the law. Homosexuality means that they should have equal rights not more rights than everyone else.

[Fizz. 1,078]

First off, I have been trying to make clear that I hate when they drag the concept of sex into the picture, because I hate sex as a concept in all its forms.

 

What I mean by a waste of time is that love doesn't really have a strictly pragmatic use. More or less, its a feeling, but love won't end world hunger or cure cancer. One could argue love can make world peace, but that is not the kind of love implied.

 

And when I mean bad, I mean they were downright horrible people. Many were violent, some used their homosexuality as an excuse to attempt to rape people, and many of them are sarcastic and hateful. If gays are trying to enforce a message about love, why has every gay I've met spread nothing but hate?

 

 

Um, might I remind you that there are MILLIONS of things that won't help the world? You honestly think watching a sitcom or browsing a pony site is going to help the world? All I'm saying is saying love is pointless is a stupid things; so much is pointless. Half, if not more of the entertainment world is pointless. But we do it because we don't need to spend our entire lives working for a cure to the next big disease. Sometimes it's nice to have a little pleasure or fun, provided it hurts no one.

 

 

Again, you can't expect I would have the kindest view on gays when the only ones I have ever known used their homosexuality as a weapon of violence, a conduit for hatred, and as a tool for depriving others of freedom and happiness. I.E. Rapists/Child molesters.

 

Part of why I hate sex is because a gay person tried to rape me. What worse of a first impression can a person make than implying they think their homosexuality puts them above the law?

 

I'm sorry they've been that way. But that's the individual. I'm not hateful, nor do I try to deprive others of freedom/happiness. I'm not saying I'm a very great person, very few people are, but I don't hate and I don't use my sexuality as a weapon.

 

Also, it's pretty well agreed that child molestation is done mostly by straight men, seeing as how young children all have very feminine bodies. Rape and molestation are done for the thrill and looks more than the sexuality side.

 

That's irrelevant. Rape is rape. Would you have a skewed view of heterosexuals if they tried to rape you? Yes, rape is bad, but so is murder and torture. Those are much, much worse in fact. I can think of so many thinks to do that destroy a person as much as rape. Should we remove any source of these crimes simply to make a futile attempt to stop it?

 

A crusade against sex is impossible, like any other harmless thing you'll only knock it underground where it will be used solely for rape, sex slavery and the like rather than the act it is today.

 

I'm not trying to start an argument, just a little discussion.

[KakeiTheWolf 652]

For the record, if a woman tried to rape me, yes, I would have an equally screwed up view.

[Deeмo 100]

I am homosexual and there's NOTHING wrong with being gay, despite what anypony says. I'm not the effeminate type like DashingRainbow described. No way in heck would I want to act like a girl.

Edited May 16, 2012 by Deemo

[Sugarcube 213]

I am bisexual

[Z.J.A. 136]

Hey guys! I'm a gay brony and was wondering if there are any other gay bronies here as well.

 

Please add the following options:

Pansexual

Other

 

Thanks

(I'd say to also add androsexual, gynesexual, polysexual, and skoliosexual, but I don't think may people know what they are)

[KakeiTheWolf 652]

For the record, I haven't ever heard of the term skoliosexual. And I used to read dictionaries for fun.

[DashingRainbow36 264]

Please add the following options:

Pansexual

Other

 

Thanks

(I'd say to also add androsexual, gynesexual, polysexual, and skoliosexual, but I don't think may people know what they are)

 

Delivered.

 

I added Other and Pan sexual to the list.

 

I often forget that I started this thread. Derp

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