music I'm annoyed by the term "Classic Rock"

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

I admit, I'm a genre Nazi. It's not even a real genre, it's a radio format. It's an umbrella term, which contains a boatload of different things. It has hard rock, progressive rock, proto punk, acid rock, blues rock, power pop etc. Yea, it gets me all OCD and shit.

[Sir.Flutter Hooves 2,953]

I admit, I'm a genre Nazi. It's not even a real genre, it's a radio format. It's an umbrella term, which contains a boatload of different things. It has hard rock, progressive rock, proto punk, acid rock, blues rock, power pop etc. Yea, it gets me all OCD and shit.

Not really. Classic Rock is the rock that started it all. The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Queen. Those are the ones that paved the path to all the generes of rock that you named, and classic rock is way diffrent than those generes.

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

Not really. Classic Rock is the rock that started it all. The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Queen. Those are the ones that paved the path to all the generes of rock that you named, and classic rock is way diffrent than those generes.

Classic rock isn't a real genre. Stuff like Led Zeppelin and Queen are hard rock, stuff like Rush and Pink Floyd are progressive rock.

[Pinkazoid 3,493]

I know what you mean, my friend comes to school one day saying she only listens to "Classic Rock" while i do have a basic idea of what she means (considering at that point, all i had ever listened to since i was little was rock, thanks to dad) Still, all she said was  Bon Jovi and Queen, she couldn't come up with any more artists, i questioned her by mentioning other artist's names, and still, nothing. I got pretty pissed just because of it, she didn't know any of the artists i mentioned, those were legends, she didn't even know about older rock stars, not even from the 80's ;~;

And even though i'm nota fan of the beatles, i could say i hate them with a passion even, she said she knew them, she couldn't recall any songs, i named more than 10 within a minute.

[Zygen 6,066]

eh, it doesn't bother me really, I mean it isn't really a genre exactly true. But more of a generalized field of artists I guess.

 

I guess I'm just not annoyed by this type of stuff really .

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

I know what you mean, my friend comes to school one day saying she only listens to "Classic Rock" while i do have a basic idea of what she means (considering at that point, all i had ever listened to since i was little was rock, thanks to dad) Still, all she said was Bon Jovi and Queen, she couldn't come up with any more artists, i questioned her by mentioning other artist's names, and still, nothing. I got pretty pissed just because of it, she didn't know any of the artists i mentioned, those were legends, she didn't even know about older rock stars, not even from the 80's ;~;

 

 

And even though i'm nota fan of the beatles, i could say i hate them with a passion even, she said she knew them, she couldn't recall any songs, i named more than 10 within a minute.

You can go up to any twelve year old "classic rock fan" and ask them if they like The Velvet Underground or The Stooges, chanes are they've never heard of them.

[Dzastur 1,719]

Just give it time. Some people think it's functional right now, but the term will eventually go away.

 

Case-in-point: no one calls it "Coca Cola Classic" anymore.

[Champion RD92 8,658]

I don't see anything wrong with the term. I mean there's classic hard rock, classic progressive rock, etc. but at the end of the day it's all classic rock of some kind.

[Moog the Kvlt 1,460]

Classic Rock isn't a genre, it's just a term to help organize the older rock bands that are considered as the classic, nobody uses it as an actual genre, it's just a term used, at least that's how I view classic rock.

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

Classic Rock isn't a genre, it's just a term to help organize the older rock bands that are considered as the classic, nobody uses it as an actual genre, it's just a term used, at least that's how I view classic rock.

A lot of people speak of it as a genre. I've seen people on the internet do it, and I've heard people in real life do it too. It annoys me.

[Moog the Kvlt 1,460]

A lot of people speak of it as a genre. I've seen people on the internet do it, and I've heard people in real life do it too. It annoys me.

 

Eh, as I said before it's really just a term used to organize the bands that are considered as classics, some people view it as only a term, while others view it as an actual genre, but I just shrug my shoulders at whatever a person views classic rock as.

[caramba2654 602]

Genres are actually just there to try and narrow down the types of the songs. And they're failing pretty badly nowadays. Like, look at this: classic rock, progressive rock, death metal, dark metal, power metal, bronystep, chillstep, dancestep, etc... There are millions of genres, so they're kinda becoming useless and annoying, specially with the songs that are hard to classify (mostly because they are a mix of various features of different genres).

 

Not to mention the fact that genres are subjective.

[Blue Lightning 275]

IMO I've always seen Classic Rock as something Arena Rock Worthy. Ya know, how people will say, "Oh, I know that song, that's a Classic!!!" It has the sort of impression that it's something that you could look back on and say that it was a great song. I also see these type of bands consistent of bands that were influenced by classical music as well. Or at least most Classic Rock bands like Queen, Kansas, and Styx have claimed to it. They use classical pieces, or at least I heard about that when I was learning, "Come Sail Away," on piano.

[Thrashy 2,800]

Even some of the more well-defined genres are guilty of getting a little muddy from time to time. I've heard people who call themselves thrashheads list some of the softest shit Metallica ever produced (Sad But True, etc.) as their favorite songs, and yet others who considered Slayer to be death metal. Hell, I caught some fool calling Anthrax punk, once...and I punched him in the goddamn throat. (No, I didn't. But I wanted to. )

 

Anyway, I think "classic rock" is just a lazy way of grouping all popular bands from the '60s through the '80s into one melting pot of "old but popular" rock. But I see your frustration. After all, who could compare prog gods like Rush to the likes of, say, Bon Jovi or Whitesnake?

[Scootalove 10,689]

I think it is a term that reminds people about rock bands from the classics that led an example to give the bands that would come soon after an opportunity to lead the legacy of Rock into the new generations that would soon come. I know people are annoyed by the term but, rest assured the term shows that legends pave the way for the next generation.

[Away 2,077]

You can go up to any twelve year old "classic rock fan" and ask them if they like The Velvet Underground or The Stooges, chanes are they've never heard of them.

OMG YESSS!!! Thank you! Finally someone who actually knows The Velvet Underground and The Stooges. So many people don't know these bands and yet a whole lot of music wouldn't even exist today without them.

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

Even some of the more well-defined genres are guilty of getting a little muddy from time to time. I've heard people who call themselves thrashheads list some of the softest shit Metallica ever produced (Sad But True, etc.) as their favorite songs, and yet others who considered Slayer to be death metal. Hell, I caught some fool calling Anthrax punk, once...and I punched him in the goddamn throat. (No, I didn't. But I wanted to. )

 

Anyway, I think "classic rock" is just a lazy way of grouping all popular bands from the '60s through the '80s into one melting pot of "old but popular" rock. But I see your frustration. After all, who could compare prog gods like Rush to the likes of, say, Bon Jovi or Whitesnake?

People do the same crap with metal too. They go up to you and say "I like metal", then you ask them what kind of metal and they say "Oh you know metal". Did someone really call Anthrax punk? I had someonce call Acid Bath screamo, that's the worst I've gotten.

 

 

IMO I've always seen Classic Rock as something Arena Rock Worthy. Ya know, how people will say, "Oh, I know that song, that's a Classic!!!" It has the sort of impression that it's something that you could look back on and say that it was a great song. I also see these type of bands consistent of bands that were influenced by classical music as well. Or at least most Classic Rock bands like Queen, Kansas, and Styx have claimed to it. They use classical pieces, or at least I heard about that when I was learning, "Come Sail Away," on piano.

Arena rock is something else.

 

 

I think it is a term that reminds people about rock bands from the classics that led an example to give the bands that would come soon after an opportunity to lead the legacy of Rock into the new generations that would soon come. I know people are annoyed by the term but, rest assured the term shows that legends pave the way for the next generation.

If that's so, then what about the alternative bands from the 90's? 

[Blue Lightning 275]

Arena rock is something else

I didn't say that it was arena rock, I was saying it's arena rock worthy. While classic Rock does have a very general region, doesn't mean that Classic rock doesn't have a specific style to it. Like I said, Classic Rock is something one person can honestly say they had a lot of fun listening to, and pretty much share interests with a lot of other people

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

I didn't say that it was arena rock, I was saying it's arena rock worthy. While classic Rock does have a very general region, doesn't mean that Classic rock doesn't have a specific style to it. Like I said, Classic Rock is something one person can honestly say they had a lot of fun listening to, and pretty much share interests with a lot of other people

Classic rock isn't a genre, it's just a bullshit term that radio stations came up with in the 80's for marketing reasons. Classic Rock radio stations are also crap, but that's a rant for another day.

[Hawk Moth 390]

Classic Rock is not a genre but a classification for an era, the years of which are up for debate. It's similar to the terms used to break up the eras of Classical music: Baroque, Romantic, Contemporary, etc.

[Soundgarden 2,758]

It's really idiotic to call this a genre, or a category of any sort; I would never even call it a term, it's just a way for 60's and 80's "purists" to summarize all the mainstream bands from that time

[Throwaway19573639385 764]

I hate it when people classify some metal songs as hard rock, it's so annoying, I've even read a comment from someone who thought ABORTED was hard rock, frickin' ABORTED goddamnit!

 

I've caught someone saying that Metallica was rock, DUDE CMON. But there's one thing that makes me so pissed and that's calling djent a genre. Djent is not a genre, it's a soundl, a goddamn sound. I'll even accept to see djent as a style, but not a genre! It's like calling pop music a genre :/

 

I don't really care how far someone goes with classifying songs, but at least people should have a general understanding of genres and music theory.

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

I hate it when people classify some metal songs as hard rock, it's so annoying, I've even read a comment from someone who thought ABORTED was hard rock, frickin' ABORTED goddamnit!

 

I've caught someone saying that Metallica was rock, DUDE CMON. But there's one thing that makes me so pissed and that's calling djent a genre. Djent is not a genre, it's a soundl, a goddamn sound. I'll even accept to see djent as a style, but not a genre! It's like calling pop music a genre :/

 

I don't really care how far someone goes with classifying songs, but at least people should have a general understanding of genres and music theory.

I showed someone an Opeth song and a Children of Bodom song on here, they called it "hard rock". Even iTunes classifies stuff like Deicide as "rock".

Edited May 23, 2013 by AtDawnTheySquee

[Freewave 1,145]

Classic rock isn't a genre, it's just a bullshit term that radio stations came up with in the 80's for marketing reasons. Classic Rock radio stations are also crap, but that's a rant for another day.

 

Right but we all know this. At the end of the day when someone says that you know they are going to be overplayed rock songs from 60's and 70's (and maybe the 80's if you include Dires Straits and U2 and such). People like familiarity and classic rock is the outmost definition of that. Imagine how much you'll hate it when they add grunge into classic rock category because its old too.

 

It's much better then calling it Dad Rock which also happens as well.

 

Don't let it get to you, its just words and you know what they mean when people say them. Technically brony music isnt a genre either (as there's music in all kinds of formats) but you know its about mlp + music because the word still has a well known meaning.

 

 

I've caught someone saying that Metallica was rock, DUDE CMON. But there's one thing that makes me so pissed and that's calling djent a genre. Djent is not a genre, it's a soundl, a goddamn sound. I'll even accept to see djent as a style, but not a genre! It's like calling pop music a genre :/

 

 

Rock, Metal, and Electronic and Pop are parent genres so they give VERY little info until you start finding out what specific genre / subgenre it is..  otherwise its as generic as... fruit, vegtable, meat.

 

The biggest point of genres is that you can summarize a whole ton of information in one to three words so that people will know instantly what you are talking about. Even the naysayers have an idea what people are talking about when you say something like djent because there's been enough recognition and people rallying around it. Once that happens it can be a genre, scene, (or like classic rock) a word the defines a particular context (even if not technically a genre).

 

Incidentally i answered why djent should be a genre in your thread but you never challenged why any of the reason i gave weren't valid.

Edited May 23, 2013 by Freewave

[Evilshy 5,090]

Eh, Classic Rock is easier to say than "the majority of the popular bands from 3 decades".

 

But yeah, when it is used as an all encompassing genre, it does bug me. I'm not quite as much a genre nazi as some, though.

 

 

Not really. Classic Rock is the rock that started it all. The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Queen. Those are the ones that paved the path to all the generes of rock that you named, and classic rock is way diffrent than those generes.

 

Beatles and Hendrix were psych rock (Beatles changed a lot more to poppish sounds over time, though). I'd call Queen Glam Rock, but they did a lot of different stuff.

 

Rock evolved mostly from rockabilly, itself a fusion of country, blues and R&B. Country was a result of early American folk music, R&B came from a blend of Gospel and Jazz, while those two genres, along with blues, evolved from African folk music.

 

Actually, most of our modern music can be traced back to African folk music brought over by slaves, as well as the songs they made while working.