2014 MLP Forums MARCH MADNESS TOURNAMENT (NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP)

[Scootie 109]

I don't really see how doing the same voting again will help, people are still going to use their dupe accs :/ I hope not though :3

So has it actually been proven that duplicate votes were cast?

 

[_Kurtis 636]

They're all wonderful ponies! Each one's a valid choice xD

 

And you're being a bit harsh on Pinkie. Defining a character from a single, out-of-context, scene doesn't work too well. Fluttershy made both Pinkie and Rarity cry in "Putting Your Hoof Down", yet we both know she's as sweet as can be. Having no exposure to aggression before, there wasn't any filter for her new behavior regimen. I consider it a testament to how kind she truly is.

 

Pinkie's a carefree spirit who isn't always in tune with common social cues. There have been countless times I stray from my usual self and have to correct things in hindsight.

Oh, yes, I'm sorry about this. I was a little too harsh, and I know Pinkie meant no harm.

They are all good ponies (although Rarity is my favorite of all), so may the best pony win! 

[Something Floaty 1,334]

I'm gonna go take a shower now, when I come back I hope to see friendship and comraderie and unity and all that mushy stuff. 

[Jokuc 8,175]

Yeah I can't really help with that. Hoping the all characters option cuts down on that because voting that helps their pony more than individually picking their pony 

All characters = 2 votes for all of them = 0% difference = waste of vote (except if you like all of them equally and don't care about who wins)

Could you please explain?

 

So has it actually been proven that duplicate votes were cast?

No, and we can't prove it. But if an account that recently was created has done nothing but vote in the poll, it's quite obvious.

Edited April 6, 2014 by Jokuc

[Noire Panzer 3,526]

I don't know why but I find this mad idea quite brilliant! Well.. considering The Doctor always has a mad idea or just makes it up as he goes along that may also be my inner fanboy liking this...

[Wingnut 7,028]

I...did not see this coming! The two Final Four matches were, statistically speaking, a dead heat. I suppose a four corners match is the only way to go. With WrestleMania XXX starting in a few hours, this seems quite fitting.

 

 

Go Fluttershy!

 

PS.  I promise this will be the last big picture from me in this tournament. 

Edited April 6, 2014 by Wingnut

[M'aiq the Liar 5,804]

I don't really see how doing the same voting again will help, people are still going to use their dupe accs :/ I hope not though :3

People are always going to use dupe accounts in things like this. Just like how a group of fluttershy fans proxy voted her in for the Hub's own national contest. Best thing you can do is just mitigate it (by removing the really obvious duplicates) and just hope for the best.

[Doctor XFizzle 8,672]

All characters = 2 votes for all of them = 0% difference = waste of vote

Could you please explain?

 

No, and we can't prove it. But if an account that recently was created has done nothing but vote in the poll, it's quite obvious.

nah it's not a waste of vote, it's more like

 

being a friendly fellow and picking "ALL CHARACTERS" = getting 2 votes for your pony

being a diehard Rarity/AJ/PP/FS fellow and only picking "Rarity"/"AJ"/"Pinkie"/"Flutters" = getting .5 votes for your pony

 

it's either share the wealth with the all characters or only giving your pony a measly small gain

[Red Cedar 1,408]

Well, I'm disappointed that after yesterday it just came down to another four-way vote anyway. I'll not be bothering with this next year.

[Starlight Sky 375]

Yeah I can't really help with that. Hoping the all characters option cuts down on that because voting that helps their pony more than individually picking their pony 

 

In the end, it'll come down to who get's the most individual votes though. It's an endless tie, otherwise.

[Fhaolan 4,495]

So has it actually been proven that duplicate votes were cast?

That they're duplicates, no. But as I understand it there are a bunch of accounts that all they do is vote in polls. So either they are people brought in from other forums just for polls, or they are sock puppet accounts. Not sure how you'd be able to tell the difference between those and just new members who haven't done anything else yet, without diving into full-on analysis of the data.

[Sunny Fox 5,961]

I just got up to check on the results, and boy did I get a surprise to see the new poll.   Certainly an interesting spin in this new style of voting, but I have to vote for my favorite pony. Still hoping for a Rarity victory. Let's make it happen Rarity fans!

 

A simple way to help the duplicate account situation: Blank Flanks can't vote on polls. That will prevent sameday sign-ups and sock puppets. Not sure if technically feasible, though.

Edited April 6, 2014 by SolarFox

[Doctor XFizzle 8,672]

CURRENT TALLY AS OF 53 VOTES

AJ 24.5

FS 22.5

R 23.5

PP 23.5

[Twinkfeather 54]

I vote for Twinkfeather.

[mars 4,863]

CURRENT TALLY AS OF 53 VOTES

AJ 24.5

FS 22.5

R 23.5

PP 23.5

So I guess it doesn't matter if you vote for all ponies. The pony with the most individual votes will still win.

[Jokuc 8,175]

nah it's not a waste of vote, it's more like

 

being a friendly fellow and picking "ALL CHARACTERS" = getting 2 votes for your pony

being a diehard Rarity/AJ/PP/FS fellow and only picking "Rarity"/"AJ"/"Pinkie"/"Flutters" = getting .5 votes for your pony

 

it's either share the wealth with the all characters or only giving your pony a measly small gain

 

Let's make up some numbers

 

Votes for ALL: 10

Votes for AJ: 5

Votes for FS: 4

Votes for R: 7

Votes for PP: 6

 

10 for all = 2 votes each, which means

 

Votes for AJ: 22.5

Votes for FS: 22

Votes for R: 23.5

Votes for PP: 23

 

it's still ± Σ(individual pony votes)/2 that decides who wins. of course you can vote for all if you want to be kind or if you like all equally

 

again, I don't see the point

Edited April 6, 2014 by Jokuc

[Silver Letter 1,832]

I'm not sure I'll vote at all after yesterday's debacle. I know it wasn't a four way tie and really, somepony had to lose from yesterday. Might as well bring Derpy, Rainbow Dash and Twilight back. This new voting thing is silly so if I vote at all, it will be to force a tie if I can so that there is no winner.

[Mars Caramel 319]

Let's say all characters gets 100 votes

Rarity by herself gets 20 votes

 

her total score will be 210 "votes"

(100 X 2 + 20 X .5)

 

it encourages votes to be for all characters than being a selfish Sally and just voting for your pony.

 

Whaaaaaat, nopony said there would be math!

 

But seriously, I'm still confused. Mind if I try to break this down?

 

1. When the vote ends, the original amount of votes for each pony is halved, with the result being the new amount.

2. After that, the amount of votes for "ALL CHARACTERS" is doubled, and the result is added to the number of votes for each pony.

 

So if I did it correctly, "ALL CHARACTERS" basically doesn't do anything. It's all in the individual ponies' votes, although I can somewhat understand this being used to make the competition friendlier.

Edited April 6, 2014 by Mars Brownie

[Puddlejumper 1,649]

If you want to see your iron pony win, vote for her. If you don't really care and just want to support them all, vote All. It's as simple as that.

[Doctor XFizzle 8,672]

 

Let's make up some numbers

 

Votes for ALL: 10

Votes for AJ: 5

Votes for FS: 4

Votes for R: 7

Votes for PP: 6

 

10 for all = 2 votes each, which means

 

Votes for AJ: 22.5

Votes for FS: 22

Votes for R: 23.5

Votes for PP: 23

 

it's still ± Σ(individual pony votes)/2 that decides who wins. of course you can vote for all if you want to be kind or if you like all equally

 

again, I don't see the point

 

well it gives people more options and instead of alliances emerging, they'll be forced to either pick all or just pick theirs. Less you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.

[Andaasonsan 3,205]

well it gives people more options and instead of alliances emerging, they'll be forced to either pick all or just pick theirs. Less you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.

But it doesn't matter. They might as well have not voted at all if they pick "All".

[Doctor XFizzle 8,672]

Don't worry about the voting system. It'll all work out in the end 

[Guest90210 3,569]

Wait, "EVERYONE" is an option that can win? What is this, a 3rd grade little league baseball game? 

[Noire Panzer 3,526]

Wait, "EVERYONE" is an option that can win? What is this, a 3rd grade little league baseball game? 

No it just means you give everypony a vote. 

Edited April 6, 2014 by Noire Panzer

[Puddlejumper 1,649]

But it doesn't matter. They might as well have not voted at all if they pick "All".

 

That's true, but is also beside the point. Whether you see it as wasted or as support for all doesn't matter. What matters is that no more cross-pony teams. You vote for your favorite, or you don't by showing support for All or not voting at all.