Jan animations shut down by hasbro/C&D

[Hawk Moth 390]

People like you are the reason Jananimations got shut down.

If you have a problem with what cloppers like me do, IGNORE US.

I don't have a problem with cloppers; I have a problem with that bitch. She pisses me off.

[ShadOBabe 18,997]

I just learned about this. It sucks so much.

 

I don't really care about Molestia. I disliked it immensely, and it definitely was NOT something that I see Hasbro wanting to be remotely associated with. However getting rid of it is still a disruption of free expression. And it's FAR more insulting with things like Double Rainboom (made as a school project) and Button Adventures. Both of those things are perfectly harmless.

 

But I just heard it brought up.

Jan's stuff wasn't offensive, but it was so good and so convincing, that it could be mistaken as official content.

[Adorkable 2,737]

Ugh, why does Hasbro have to ruin our fun?  And I was looking forward to Pony Rock Anthem, too.

 

Dude, that video!!! xD

 

I didn't even know that existed. xD

 

I agree, I was also looking forward to Pony Rock Anthem :/

 

But...maybe Jan will pull a rabbit from his hat and somehow release it with Hasbro's permission? ^^"

[Wild Star 141]

While I am sad to see button mash go, there could be a better reason. Maybe they are planning to bring button into the show and don't want his character to have a personality demanded by fans.

[boothnat 13]

I don't have a problem with cloppers; I have a problem with that bitch. She pisses me off.

I hate people who hate the brony fandom too. Dosen't mean I want to destroy things they like making.

[PinkiePieJr 122]

Wow. That's really to, bad. I mean, I know Hasbro has the rights to do that, but I don't know why they would. That's really to bad.

 

[Steel Accord 6,660]

And it won't be the US government. 

 

Of course it won't, the copyright law they enforce is the cause of the problem!

[Celli 4,338]

Dude, that video!!! xD

 

I didn't even know that existed. xD

 

I agree, I was also looking forward to Pony Rock Anthem :/

 

But...maybe Jan will pull a rabbit from his hat and somehow release it with Hasbro's permission? ^^"

Maybe. I wouldn't hold my breath, though.:/

[Shanks 10,816]

This is a cowardly move by Hasbro. An illegal move.

While you could make a strong first amendment case about these matters the unfortunate truth is with the way patent and copyright laws are written Hasbro legally has to meet a bare minimum standard of "protecting" its patent or else it will lose it completely. That dosen't make this situation suck any less if anything it makes it all the more infuriating, but laws like this existed long before Hasbro even existed. The only solution as I have said many times will change the law, Hasbro has been as lenient as they legally can be while still being able to hold onto to their patents. I am not saying they are doing it out of the goodness of their hearts, but I am still glad they have been so lenient compared to most other companies.

[Kawaii Besu 28,011]

I guess Jan will come back if Hasbro C&D's the MLP Vector Club, EQD, or even this particular forum.

Edited March 25, 2014 by GeometryMath Algebra

[Adorkable 2,737]

Maybe. I wouldn't hold my breath, though.:/

 

Nor will I.

 

The chances are very slim after all.

 

Since Jan is trying to stay on Hasbro's good side and all that.

[Looking Glass 197]

"Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use."

BTW, all the permission Jan needed.

that's the excerpt i was looking for.

[Shenron00 366]

I don't have a problem with cloppers; I have a problem with that bitch. She pisses me off.

Umm....I'm pretty sure Jan Animations....is a dude...

[Looking Glass 197]

While you could make a strong first amendment case about these matters the unfortunate truth is with the way patent and copyright laws are written Hasbro legally has to meet a bare minimum standard of "protecting" its patent or else it will lose it completely. That dosen't make this situation suck any less if anything it makes it all the more infuriating, but laws like this existed long before Hasbro even existed. The only solution as I have said many times will change the law, Hasbro has been as lenient as they legally can be while still being able to hold onto to their patents. I am not saying they are doing it out of the goodness of their hearts, but I am still glad they have been so lenient compared to most other companies.

so what you are saying is they were essentially forced to shut down jan animations or else they would lose their copyright to the franchise?

[Shanks 10,816]

so what you are saying is they were essentially forced to shut down jan animations or else they would lose their copyright to the franchise?

Yes, that is exactly what I am saying.

[Acoustic Cloud 2,202]

Hasbro, quit being a power hungry whore. 
Please,
Bronies.

[Adorkable 2,737]

so what you are saying is they were essentially forced to shut down jan animations or else they would lose their copyright to the franchise?

 

That's also exactly what I've been saying a million times already xD

 

Hasbro did what they had to do, or else they could have lost MLP.

 

I'm sure it was hard for them, but as responsible business men and women of Hasbro should, they did what was overall best for MLP.

[Looking Glass 197]

While you could make a strong first amendment case about these matters the unfortunate truth is with the way patent and copyright laws are written Hasbro legally has to meet a bare minimum standard of "protecting" its patent or else it will lose it completely. That dosen't make this situation suck any less if anything it makes it all the more infuriating, but laws like this existed long before Hasbro even existed. The only solution as I have said many times will change the law, Hasbro has been as lenient as they legally can be while still being able to hold onto to their patents. I am not saying they are doing it out of the goodness of their hearts, but I am still glad they have been so lenient compared to most other companies.

As unfortunate as it is, i could see that.

Edited March 25, 2014 by looking glass

[Moved to Elsewhere 11,331]

Yeah I find this news terrible. If there is one thing that grinds my gears it's how companies can shut down anything due to copyright even if it counts as fair use. Good thing is I heard someone at Hasbro who is close to the fans i looking into this. Who knows, maybe someone at Hasbro just didn't get the memo that stuff like that is okay.

[Adorkable 2,737]

Yeah I find this news terrible. If there is one thing that grinds my gears it's how companies can shut down anything due to copyright even if it counts as fair use. Good thing is I heard someone at Hasbro who is close to the fans i looking into this. Who knows, maybe someone at Hasbro just didn't get the memo that stuff like that is okay.

 

I've also heard this, I know who you're talking about but I can't remember his name. ^^"

 

Hopefully we'll hear from him soon, I don't think he's said anything on the matter yet.

[Fhaolan 4,483]

Sorry guys, but while the 'Fair Use' section of the copyright laws could apply to half of the C&D Jan received, the second half of the C&D is on the trademark laws which does not have a Fair Use clause. And it's the trademark laws that have the 'have to prove that you are aggressively protecting' clause.

 

This is part of the problem, there are three different groups of laws that people are getting mixed up; Copyright© law, Trademark™ law, and Patent® law. Each one of them *sounds* the same when you look at them from a mile up, but when you look closer they've got different rules with different criteria. Unethical use of this confusion is the stock-and-trade of a lot of legal firms.

[Hawk Moth 390]

Umm....I'm pretty sure Jan Animations....is a dude...

I was talking about Tiarawhy. I loved Jan Animations.

[Shenron00 366]

I was talking about Tiarawhy. I loved Jan Animations.

Oh, my bad. Sorry about that.

[Adorkable 2,737]

Sorry guys, but while the 'Fair Use' section of the copyright laws could apply to half of the C&D Jan received, the second half of the C&D is on the trademark laws which does not have a Fair Use clause. And it's the trademark laws that have the 'have to prove that you are aggressively protecting' clause.

 

This is part of the problem, there are three different groups of laws that people are getting mixed up; Copyright© law, Trademark™ law, and Patent® law. Each one of them *sounds* the same when you look at them from a mile up, but when you look closer they've got different rules with different criteria. Unethical use of this confusion is the stock-and-trade of a lot of legal firms.

 

 

You also have the fact that Jan wanted to stay on Hasbro's good side, due to the fact that he would like to work for them one day.

 

I don't know about you, but I don't think it would look good in an interview fighting a company you would like working for.

 

It would be like a gamer fighting GameStop, then applying there next week.

[Guest]

Everyone keeps saying to change the law, but no one is saying what we should change it to that apparently would be "so much better". I am all ears.