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SOME ground rules would need to be established for sure, but running an RP with multiple player factions who are one form of despot or another would not be completely out of reason.

Would be out of reason to bring in too many different stuff. Some stuff will just be overpowered. There would certainly have to be restrictions (such as that Death Star thing  :okiedokielokie:). 

 

Multiple player factions sounds great, alright. 

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All of the above is exactly why being mean is worse. It's ridiculously petty- and you know it's ridiculously petty- and you're going to do it anyway, regardless of the stakes. I mean, who's more evil: the person that burns down an entire forest to build a superbase, or the person that burns down an entire forest because they "needed the view"?

See though, this is what I was talking about. Both could be seen as pretty evil, but which is more evil depends on who's looking at it.

 

The former shows a grander design, but a willingness to cross any line to achieve their goal, one they might even see as laudable.

 

While the ladder shows a carelessness not just in what they do but why they do it, whatever satisfies the impulse.

 

So what is worse? The tyrant willing to cross any line to achieve an end goal or the despot with no goals and no lines in the first place? It's the difference between lawful evil and chaotic evil.

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See though, this is what I was talking about. Both could be seen as pretty evil, but which is more evil depends on who's looking at it.

 

The former shows a grander design, but a willingness to cross any line to achieve their goal, one they might even see as laudable.

 

While the ladder shows a carelessness not just in what they do but why they do it, whatever satisfies the impulse.

 

So what is worse? The tyrant willing to cross any line to achieve an end goal or the despot with no goals and no lines in the first place? It's the difference between lawful evil and chaotic evil.

Basically you can either rule as the Joker or Lex Luthor then. XD

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Would be out of reason to bring in too many different stuff. Some stuff will just be overpowered. There would certainly have to be restrictions (such as that Death Star thing :okiedokielokie:).

 

Multiple player factions sounds great, alright.

That could be resolved, simply set it up like a social/military RTS with the evil turned up.

 

-Minions

 

-Despotism model

 

-Top Enforcer

 

-Doomsday Weapon

 

Etc. Etc.

 

The forms each of those takes defines what kind of evil the player is running. The gamut could run from complete barbarism to total police state and everything in between!

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That could be resolved, simply set it up like a social/military RTS with the evil turned up.

 

-Minions

 

-Despotism model

 

-Top Enforcer

 

-Doomsday Weapon

 

Etc. Etc.

 

The forms each of those takes defines what kind of evil the player is running. The gamut could run from complete barbarism to total police state and everything in between!

I like it except for that Doomsday Weapon. That would only to suit a few selected individuals or suit to have everything destroyed. 

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Basically you can either rule as the Joker or Lex Luthor then. XD

I would have said either ruling as Carnage or Doctor Doom but I guess the principal is pretty much the same.

 

(Is a huge Marvel fan boy.)

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Evil is a gateway to mean. That superbase is infinitely more useful for the purpose of meanness, because the super base can be used to destroy so much more than a forest. You may destroy some forests, or you may destroy one forest, make a massive base, and then use the power advantage given you by that base to do mean things. Sometimes, evil and meanness can overlap, such as in the case of slavery. You could enslave Ponyville's citizenry to help you burn down the forest to make your superbase which you can then use to do more mean things than would be possible with just burning the forest. Evil is a sliding scale; the more evil you commit, the more capacity you have to be mean without being deposed.

But we're not arguing which one is more useful; we're arguing which one is worse in scale. Did you know there's an entire episode off PPG focused on Mojo Jojo trying to get heroines to believe that they wet their bed? No grand gestures, and no real point; he just wanted to make d. That's what i'm talking about; it's having the resources to do amazing and incredible things, but then just throwing it away because you'd rather just be a complete jerk. It's the obvious contempt that makes it that much worse... for me, apparently.

 

Basically you can either rule as the Joker or Lex Luthor then. XD

Essentially this. To quote... someone: "There's evil... and then there's just being a massive d**k."

 

 

I would have said either ruling as Carnage or Doctor Doom but I guess the principal is pretty much the same.

 

(Is a huge Marvel fan boy.)

'hoofs for that.  :kindness:

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But we're not arguing which one is more useful; we're arguing which one is worse in scale. Did you know there's an entire episode off PPG focused on Mojo Jojo trying to get heroines to believe that they wet their bed? No grand gestures, and no real point; he just wanted to make d. That's what i'm talking about; it's having the resources to do amazing and incredible things, but then just throwing it away because you'd rather just be a complete jerk. It's the obvious contempt that makes it that much worse... for me, apparently.

 

 

Essentially this. To quote... someone: "There's evil... and then there's just being a massive d**k."

 

 

 

'hoofs for that.  :kindness:

  

 

So you're saying it would be better for Discord to rain chocolate milk and reverse gravity merely to make people angry, rather than making the chocolate milk poisonous and throwing the entire solar system off kilter? I suppose that is the charm, though I don't truly get a sense of contempt, I get a sense that they care too much about hindering me, considering that they aren't doing anything else but be mean to me. In fact, I would find them ineffectual, as well, thanks to the fact that they aren't even doing anything important while being mean!

 

See though, this is what I was talking about. Both could be seen as pretty evil, but which is more evil depends on who's looking at it.

The former shows a grander design, but a willingness to cross any line to achieve their goal, one they might even see as laudable.

While the ladder shows a carelessness not just in what they do but why they do it, whatever satisfies the impulse.

So what is worse? The tyrant willing to cross any line to achieve an end goal or the despot with no goals and no lines in the first place? It's the difference between lawful evil and chaotic evil.

To truly solve the dispute, we must consider what is best for the despot themselves. If your end goal is to become the latter example, then it is unlikely you will be overthrown while achieving the latter example. However, if you begin with the latter instead of the former, you are almost guaranteed to lose, case in point being Discord's capture and "rehabilitation" (aka, arrest and imprisonment in a psych ward).

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