food Do you eat meat?

[Celli 4,338]

Just now, Olly said:

I don't really know much about Peta.

They advocate for better treatment of animals, but they kill more animals than a lot of slaughterhouses. They don't practice what they preach. 

1 minute ago, Olly said:

Many, (even most) people eat meat without thinking about it, because they've never really had to think about it. When I say that eating meat is immoral, I'm not necessarily accusing individuals of being immoral, but the act itself. Most people probably just eat meat because it's always been there, it comes in a nice clean package, and they don't even think about it other than that it "tastes good" to them. I mean, that describes me nicely until I did become vegan. 

Also I'm not sure going vegan will do a lot to make treatment of animals before they're killed better. Unless you rallied millions of people to stop eating meat.

2 minutes ago, Earl Grey Ghost said:

I am aware of how horrible they are treated in some places, but me gong on a meat strike isn't going to change that. I can still eat meat and advocate for better treatment of slaughter animals

Well said.

[Olly 1,011]

1 minute ago, Celli said:

Also I'm not sure going vegan will do a lot to make treatment of animals before they're killed better. Unless you rallied millions of people to stop eating meat.

Every individual counts, and their choices count. Do I think me alone recycling will help the planet much? no. But I know that if I do, and I encourage other people to do so, that may well help in the long run. Nothing is accomplished without individuals each contributing, because there is no body of water without drops of rain, so to speak.

 

11 minutes ago, Earl Grey Ghost said:

Animals eat other animals. Humans are animals. Omnivores, which humans are listed as eat both animal and plant. Which means we also have canine teeth. It's for shredding up meat, our back teeth, for grinding. If we were meant to only eat one or the other, our teeth and jaw structure would reflect that. 

Humans can and have (from very early on, such as in ancient india) survived well entirely without meat. In fact, it's often more healthy to do so. 

 

 

[Celli 4,338]

1 minute ago, Olly said:

Humans can and have (from very early on, such as in ancient india) survived well entirely without meat. In fact, it's often more healthy to do so.

Actually, that's fairly misguided.

http://time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/

[Earl Grey Ghost 446]

8 minutes ago, Olly said:

Humans can and have (from very early on, such as in ancient india) survived well entirely without meat. In fact, it's often more healthy to do so. 

This seems like you're trying to argue, whether you really are or not. 
Personally, I won't get into this with you, as an individual in the science field because I can already see it's going to be like talking to a brick wall on the matter. You've made up your mind, and that's fine. But badgering others about why they chose this or why they chose that----personally I don't see anyone who eats meat on here constantly asking you "but why do you not eat meat? Why? Why? Did you know that------"

Only you seem to be doing that. But to make a point with this, yes, for a while humans did eat merely plants, but that was before hunting/gathering started up. These are extremely primitive, and barely off the branch of monkey/ape at this point. So when people want to quote that, I laugh because as with all animals---we evolve. If the need for meat wasn't needed at all, humans wouldn't have began hunting. Just like the snake saw no evolutionary need for legs, so they never adapted them. Same concept. There was a key nutrient or element that was missing enough from the diet of early, early humans where they needed to adapt. Thus the hunter/gatherer society began, and meat became a staple.

While I agree that you shouldn't overindulge in meat because that can be harmful (overindulging in any  food is unhealthy), I certainly don't believe that it's necessary to cut it out completely. Again, that is purely, choice. There is no doctor that will straight up tell you "cut meat out of your diet, if you eat meat, you're unhealthy."

Edited December 11, 2018 by Earl Grey Ghost

[Olly 1,011]

1 minute ago, Celli said:

Actually, that's fairly misguided.

http://time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/

I didn't bring up evolution? "Humans can and have (from very early on, such as in ancient india) survived well entirely without meat. In fact, it's often more healthy to do so" is what I said. That wasn't misguided.

1 minute ago, Earl Grey Ghost said:

This seems like you're trying to argue, whether you really are or not. 
Personally, I won't get into this with you, as an individual in the science field because I can already see it's going to be like talking to a brick wall on the matter. You've made up your mind, and that's fine.

I study science as well, so I don't know why you've decided that talking to me would "be like talking to a brick wall on the matter". I wasn't "arguing" just making a correction.

4 minutes ago, Earl Grey Ghost said:

But badgering others about why they chose this or why they chose that----personally I don't see anyone who eats meat on here constantly asking you "but why do you not eat meat? Why? Why? Did you know that------"
Only you seem to be doing that. 

I have not been "badgering others" that's plainly obvious. Myself and Celli were having a conversation.

[Celli 4,338]

2 minutes ago, Olly said:

I didn't bring up evolution? "Humans can and have (from very early on, such as in ancient india) survived well entirely without meat. In fact, it's often more healthy to do so" is what I said. That wasn't misguided

I meant that meat is good for us, due to protein and calories. It's helped us become a more intelligent species due to meat being good for our brains. 

[Earl Grey Ghost 446]

7 minutes ago, Olly said:

I didn't bring up evolution? "Humans can and have (from very early on, such as in ancient india) survived well entirely without meat. In fact, it's often more healthy to do so" is what I said. That wasn't misguided.

I study science as well, so I don't know why you've decided that talking to me would "be like talking to a brick wall on the matter". I wasn't "arguing" just making a correction.

I have not been "badgering others" that's plainly obvious. Myself and Celli were having a conversation.

Then my statement of "whether you are or not..." applies, which insinuated that I left open to the idea that you weren't. So there's that. 

What this all comes down to is culture. Choice. That's what we keep saying. None of us are telling you you're wrong in choosing your particular diet. Just some of the claims you're making on technical or scientific levels. What you do, is up to you. What other cultures do, is up to them. Healthy or not healthy. You have to realise that with evolution comes deviations. One culture, might have adjusted to eating one particular diet, and because of the adjustment---they are healthy by most standards. That doesn't mean that it works for everyone. Just like, not everyone works off of a high protein diet as I do. But if you look at India now. They eat meat. Not cow, for obvious reasons, but they do eat meat. At some turning point in society they changed their diet.

You also have to realise you're quoting "ancient" times. People have evolved way past that and our dietary and health needs have changed because of that. What might have been healthy back in ancient times, certainly isn't today, or at least not as much so. This goes beyond food to even medicinal practices! You are missing the fact that there's this huge evolutionary gap. This huge biological adjustment period that has shifted countless times as societies and agriculture changes.

Edited December 11, 2018 by Earl Grey Ghost

[Olly 1,011]

5 minutes ago, Celli said:

I meant that meat is good for us, due to protein and calories. It's helped us become a more intelligent species due to meat being good for our brains. 

The circumstances early man found himself in made us intelligent, but I'm not aware of meat itself having any direct influence on intelligence. 

16 minutes ago, Earl Grey Ghost said:

None of us are telling you you're wrong in choosing your particular diet. Just some of the claims you're making on technical or scientific levels. 

I've made no "technical" claims 

19 minutes ago, Earl Grey Ghost said:

you're quoting "ancient" times. People have evolved way past that and our dietary and health needs have changed because of that. What might have been healthy back in ancient times, certainly isn't today, or at least not as much so. 

..what? our "dietary" and health needs don't change, do you know what you're talking about?

[Phosphor 11,529]

I definitely eat meat. Lately, I've been trying to reduce the amount of meat I consume and incorporate more vegetables in my diet. Heart disease, diabetes, and the inability to live beyond 75 run in my family

[Celli 4,338]

7 hours ago, Phosphor said:

I definitely eat meat. Lately, I've been trying to reduce the amount of meat I consume and incorporate more vegetables in my diet. Heart disease, diabetes, and the inability to live beyond 75 run in my family

It might be more beneficial to put more poultry and fish in your diet, since poultry and fish have less of the bad fats and more of the good than red meat and fish is I believe also good for your brain. 

Edited December 12, 2018 by Celli

[Lucky Bolt 35,063]

Of course I do! I cannot function without my bacon. 

[碇 シンジン 27,431]

Meat and cheese are two of my most consumed products

[Thuja 3,659]

I eat meat every so often but I try to keep it at a minimum.  Tried veganism out for a while, didn't like it.  I think I'm a bit more comfortable being a vegetarian most of the time.

[Nsxile 26,974]

I do indeed eat meat and have no plans to stop eating it.

[EpicEnergy 23,218]

I eat meat, especially chicken and bacon! Those are my favorites!

[ShadOBabe 18,997]

Heck yeah! Love me some animal protiens!

[PiratePony 8,475]

I love meat. I do, however, love vegetables and have tried to go clean meat and veggies when I can. I'm excited because for Christmas I bought two beef tenderloins to cook the family.

[Splashee 28,564]

Yes, I still haven't covered into a vegan yet. One day, I will be brave (ha! No!)

[Clawdeen 14,218]

I do eat meat. I tried the vegan route a few times but tbh it got too expensive. 

[Fritzy 1,691]

Yeah. I do eat meat.  Quite often actually. 

[Here No Longer 5,276]

Yes, I do. Quite regularly in fact. I'm not sure if I could survive without bacon, hamburger and chicken and all of those good meaty things...

 

But I'm no carnivore. I'm an omnivore like a human being is designed to be. Sharp teeth, eyes close to the center of the head... But still flat teeth for fruits and vegetables.

Edited December 23, 2019 by Dustleeshus

[TheRockARooster 51,407]

I eat meat, I’m an omnivore though.

[applesjck 5,601]

I eat meat, yes, but not very often. It doesn't taste as good to me as it did when I was a kid.

[Derpy Pon-3 5,650]

I’m vegetarian but I’m surprised so many other people are as well

[Oblivion 20,266]

I mean, I LOVE meat, I love me a good grilled steak, grilled chicken, fried rabbit freshly harvested, or a nice big juicy deer steak! I've also noticed that game meat is much better for you and actually makes you feel amazing because its much more lean and does not have all the hormones and antibiotics pumped into them that factory farmed meat has! 

On 12/11/2018 at 10:41 PM, Phosphor said:

I definitely eat meat. Lately, I've been trying to reduce the amount of meat I consume and incorporate more vegetables in my diet. Heart disease, diabetes, and the inability to live beyond 75 run in my family

Or just binge on deer steak, steamed rabbit and wild turkey! Most of the harm from modern meat comes from all the harmful chemicals they inject into the animals food and bloodstream such as antibiotics, steriouds etc!