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S02:E21 - Dragon Quest

  

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I hope we see more dragons in future episodes, to show that not all dragons jerks.

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Meh, but was a bit too stereotypical.

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...am I the only person who really likes this one? Not so into the mane six laughing at Spike's concerns, and the exact phrasing of the moral could be better, but as with all Spike episodes, I like how it explores his anxieties. Compared to "Owl's Well That Ends Well" from season 1, this concern's a little less childish, if also somewhat less poignant. Moreover, I find the dragons to be a lot of fun, and the characterization of Rarity and Rainbow Dash in particular really drives home how far they've come. Rainbow Dash confessing that she's done "plenty of nutty things"? Rarity being willing to get her hooves dirty? They've grown a lot since the pilot, and this is one of the clearest demonstrations of what might be my two favourite character arcs in the whole show. I enjoy how much synergy Rarity, Twilight, and Rainbow Dash have here, as you wouldn't necessarily expect these three to complement each other so well, but they get along surprisingly well. I love this one. 

 

Don't see why people get so upset with Spike being pushed around; it's just cartoon slapstick. 

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Yeah, no, still really dig this one. Admittedly the show's treatment of dragons does get it into trouble - somehow it has to balance "they talk and think just like ponies can" with "they're still big and scary and rude," but having Spike go to the equivalent of a dragon fraternity mitigates that somewhat. The show simply isn't a serious enough piece of fantasy in order to really flesh out the dragon culture, and most of its attempts to flesh out any non-pony culture come across as somewhat shallow, but that's not really what "Dragon Quest" is about. Here, Spike's question of what "being a dragon" means is more of a catalyst than what the show's actually interested in, as the idea here is that Spike's heritage doesn't matter half as much as the people he grew up with and those he's close to. Having the frat bros stand in for dragons at large is questionable, but (unlike, say, griffons in "The Lost Treasure of Griffonstone") the episode never really paints dragon culture overall as "wrong." The moral phrasing, that the ponies taught Spike to be "kind, moral, and true," might be interpreted as such, but I think the real heart of that is that ponies were able to infuse him with those values which he cherishes, even though they're not of the same species as him. The dragon frat was the closest Spike could come to relating to any dragons, but, aside from socializing with a fraternity not being the best idea for a kid like him, the conflict between that frat culture and his own values reminded him of how much growing up among ponies has shaped him, and how important the mane six especially are to him personally. He discovered that what "being a dragon" means doesn't really matter, because ultimately ponies are the most important relationships in his life, and there's nothing wrong with that. 

 

Also, can I just comment on how Rarity and Rainbow Dash seem to get along really well every time they share an episode? For characters whose first shared spotlight ("Sonic Rainboom") had them at odds with each other, and who seem like they should have such clashing personalities, they sure do seem to be on good terms most of the time they interact. Methinks they should have more episodes together. 

 

If I have a problem here, it's that the episode never really admonishes the mane six for mocking Spike at the start, but I think Twilight's decision to support him leaving at all sorta makes up for that. I mean, they continue to follow him because they're worried for his safety, but they also do come to understand the seriousness and legitimacy of his concerns, as is shown by the scene in Twilight's library. 

 

Score:

Entertainment: 9/10

Characters: 9/10

Theme: 9/10

Story: 8/10

Overall: 88/100

Edited by AlexanderThrond

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I really enjoyed this episode. I especially enjoyed how in the end Spike still doesn't know how he came to be, and still the only thing he knows is that he was given to Twilight Sparkle as an egg. The mystery is still there but Spike is content with not knowing.

Note: I just finished Season 3 so I don't know if he does figure out in the later seasons.

In my fanfic I show how Spike ended up in the hooves of The School For Gifted Unicorns. I may not have the most fantastic drawing skills, but I am able to do enough to get to the point.

 

 

The Everfree dragon in the Season 1:24 "Owl's well that ends well" is Spike's father!

 

 

 

 

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I liked this Episode, even though i dont like it all that much, that all Dragons are portrayed as Douchebags, but alright. From the Designs, i liked the White Dragon with the Pink Eyes the most.

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On 1/8/2018 at 12:49 PM, Nanotek said:

I liked this Episode, even though i dont like it all that much, that all Dragons are portrayed as Douchebags, but alright. From the Designs, i liked the White Dragon with the Pink Eyes the most.

I didn’t like that either. I think (hope) Spike just joined the wrong crowd though. Better dragons would avoid those creeps.

Not that Spike should have risked it, but would smashing a phoenix egg kill it? It seems like the baby and egg would just reform.

I don’t like Spike taking the egg home. He just kidnapped someone’s baby. I know posts above have given reason for his actions, but I have not seen a reason that works for me. 

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What a disaster. Apparently we should all be girls because boys suck. How was this episode made? The only things keeping this from a 0 are a few good gags.

This is the only episode of the first 3 seasons that I hate.

Score: 1/10

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I can see where this episode is coming from. It wants to do a story about falling in with the wrong crowd. That's fine. The issue is that it has some unfortunate implications. The mane six constantly generalize dragons and while we can see adult dragons during the migration that don't act like the teenage dragons, it's never acknowledged outside of dragons in the background. The mane six aren't called out for generalizing dragons and Spike's only encounter with dragons seems to have made him believe that all dragons are bad. This could've easily been fixed by an adult dragon finding out that the teenage dragons were acting stupid and stopping them. Then not only would the ending not be anticlimactic, but it would also remove the implications. The ponies would realize that not all dragons are terrible and the message of not falling in with the wrong crowd would still come across. 

Even aside from the message, this is a boring episode. It takes a generic story and doesn't do much with it. And Rarity is a little out of character here, but it's not one of the bigger problems.

Despite all of this, there are some good things here. I like some of the jokes and I like the set up. It's just that the rest of the episode doesn't take advantage of the set up.

Score: 2/10

Edited by bigbertha

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