Twilight Sparkle's Immortality

[♞RedLotus♞ 360]

Remember now, there is such thing as death in the ponyworld, i remember that in the nightmare episode, they mentioned something about canibalism, and trying to survive from night mare moon eating you.

[Lovely 67]

Twilight may not outlive her friends, mostly because they are elements of harmony. If one were to die off they would not be able to work. So their friendship may actually make them immortal, Twilight only had gotten wings. Cadence earned her unicorn horn but if you think about it, in the episode of the Crystal Empire and background pony yells "The princess has returned!" so that would make her immortal seeing that was one thousand years before she came back. What I think is that no Alicorn is immortal but they do live very very long lives.

[Scarlet 16]

Hmm... I think Twilight won't immortal. Only Luna and Celestia are immortal. They move celestial bodies so they must be immortal. We can have got theories, but who knows what MLP creators will invent

[Egghead 46]

In my headcanon Cadance and Twilight were both "created" alicorns, and will age normally until they are needed as replacement. Basically when Celestia and Luna die or go missing or whatnot Cadance will take Celestia's play while Twilight takes Luna's. Also the Elements make the rest of the mane six immortal until they are passed on to a new generation. 

Though I really, really, really hope in true canon that Twilight does not outlive her friends just because of some wings. 

[Snow Shimmers 16]

My question is if twilight will live forever because a lot of people think she will. I wonder if they're right because, like cadence, she turned I to an alicorn instead of being born one. I believe celestia and luna were born alicorns because Lauren said so, and cadance seems to age do to looking younger in the flashback in a canterlot wedding. So, my question sands, will twilight live forever, or as long as everypony else, despite having wings.

[Remi 1,309]

Due to the fact that Twilight was granted the position of a princess by Celestia, she, among Celestia, Luna, and Cadence will all be immortal. Therefore, Twilight will outlive the rest of the Main 6, which is a depressing thought.

Edited July 24, 2013 by Pegboard Nerd

[Celtore 2,770]

I remember a post from Meghan McCarthy saying she won't outlive her friends. In my mind, I think this means that Twilight will either live a normal age or she will be immortal with the rest of the mane six. What makes me curious is whether Cadance will live forever since Shining Armor isn't an alicorn and she is...

 

Hmm... My opinion is that she won't, but I think it's a bit open ended.

Edited July 24, 2013 by Celtore

[Lume WMj 228]

Well, I don't know if this is already something canon or not, but according to some speculations and ideas, Twilight didn't gain immortality upon being transformed into an Alicorn because of the fact that she wasn't born an Alicorn like Celestia and Lune were. She, just like Cadance (who was originally a pegasus), won't live forever.

 

The only real difference is that now she's a little bit more powerful than before and, of course, she's now royalty. But no, she will still age and die like any other pony. At least that's what I sincerely hope~

[Scootalove 10,689]

I don't particularly think that Twilight will live forever, so I'm pretty sure that she will live a long time with her friends since she won't outlive her friends so she might be immortal sort of.

[~StatesTheOblivious~ 1,795]

@@Snow Shimmers,

 

From what we know now, the tweet from McCarthy, saying that she won't outlive her friends, can mean several things:

 

1) Twilight is still mortal.

 

2) All of the mane 6 will become alicorns. (Even though there is now new information from the panel at San Diego Comic Con)

 

3) She will die prior to her friends. (I doubt that)

 

4) They will simply never mention any hint of Twilight's possible immortality in the show. (Logic)

 

5) McCarthy lied. (I hope not)

 

And for myself, I doubt that this will ever be directly thematized in the show.

Maybe it' just because of my opinion on immortality.

 

Because...

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 24, 2013 by StatesTheOblivious

[Gaullin Everfree 64]

I honestly just hope that if she has gained immortality that the rest of the mane 6 do also gain the curse/gift after all she only became a princess through the magic of friendship if her power source dies out will her immortality not also fade away?

[Foreigner And Lover 207]

I'm sure the writers realized that if Cadance were immortal then she would outlive Shining Armor. And I'm sure that kind of depressing logic wouldn't work in MLP. There's also the fact that Cadance aged and the fact that Celestia and Luna are also vastly more powerful than Cadance meaning there's a big difference between them. And it follows that Twilight is the same kind of alicorn that Cadance is, so I'm assuming that she will age normally.

[IronPonyApplejack 318]

My question is if twilight will live forever because a lot of people think she will. I wonder if they're right because, like cadence, she turned I to an alicorn instead of being born one. I believe celestia and luna were born alicorns because Lauren said so, and cadance seems to age do to looking younger in the flashback in a canterlot wedding. So, my question sands, will twilight live forever, or as long as everypony else, despite having wings.

 

 

Due to the fact that Twilight was granted the position of a princess by Celestia, she, among Celestia, Luna, and Cadence will all be immortal. Therefore, Twilight will outlive the rest of the Main 6, which is a depressing thought.

 

As previously stated by others, the mighty Meghan McCarthy has already told us that Twilight will not outlive her friends. Which is a very, very good thing. As far as what exactly that means, I don't know. My personal headcanon right now is that Celestia and Luna were born alicorns, and that is why they are immortal/exceptional long-living. As Twilight was not, she will still have a normal lifespan.

 

Who knows if that's actually correct. I sure as heck don't. But it's what I go with for now, since we really don't know much about it yet.

[Gaullin Everfree 64]

But Lauren faust's original idea was to have twilight replace celestia and rule equestria herself, the show writers probably haven't forgotten that idea.

 

Also...

 

celestia= sun 

 

Luna=Moon (Actually Roman goddess of the moon)

 

Twilight= sunrise/sunset...

 

Does this mean that twilight will have the responsibility of both the sun and the moon?

[rainbowbrony2013 2]

Twilight will probably not live forever as the ritual that made the princesses immortal was not performed and will probably not be.

Also anyone knows when season 4 comes out? I'd love to know

[ReverseFaller 2,483]

I'm really hoping that Twilight isn't immortal. I don't want Twilight to have to outlive all of her friends, that would suck a lot! I don't believe shes immortal, as I've seen a lot of people on the forums say she isn't. 

Edited July 26, 2013 by ReverseFaller

[Ihei 713]

Well, this is a easy question. It's a cartoon. Everypony lives forever, and they never age or die, unless they have a unmentioned character randomly die and the main characters go to their funeral. So, I guess, in a way, you can say she'll live forever. The Mane 6 will as well. 

[Derpy_Moonrose 0]

I don't think Twilight will live forever as an alicorn, then somehow her friends would need to live forever as well... if they do that will be awesome, but they probably will not pass on because they seem to have survived through all 4 generations (Counting friendship is magic) and if another one is made they will be in that one as well, but if Friendship is Magic stays then we could be looking at quite a bit of awesome. 

[<3 Cadence <3 0]

I don't really think that dying of old age is really an issue in a kids cartoon. I mean, it's never really gonna get to that point, is it?

[Lunas Sorrow 21]

i believe twilight isn't immortal that only Celestia and Luna are, i even believe that Celestia and Luna are not immortal they're more like Elves to Humans in most fantasy genre they're not immortal but they tend to live for a long long time

 

i believe that twilight becoming an alicorn just means she has a power boost and also she gains a new magic that only she can use like Cadences Love Spell, Celestias Sun spell and Lunas Moon Spell on that note i believe that twilights unique ability would be granting magic to those around her, for example giving an earth pony or pegasi an ability to use magic or amplify the original magic potential of the unicorn 

[John 793]

Alicorns are not immortal. Cadence is proof of that. So in any case Twilight will not live forever, she may have an extended lifespan however. I see alicorns more like elves from Tolkien myth. They can live a very long time but not forever.

 

Just going to say..

 

Cadence is not proof of this.  We see her age, yes, but we do not see her die or grow old.  Think about Celestia.  I would imagine that she wasn't an adult for all of her life and that she too started out small.  Perhaps Alicorns age up to a certain age in appearance and then stop aging.

I believe that twilight becoming an alicorn just means she has a power boost and also she gains a new magic that only she can use like Cadences Love Spell, Celestias Sun spell and Lunas Moon Spell on that note i believe that twilights unique ability would be granting magic to those around her, for example giving an earth pony or pegasi an ability to use magic or amplify the original magic potential of the unicorn 

 

Hm...  Reminds me of an Avatar reference.  (Assuming Aang could energy bend non-benders to have bending abilities,)

 

I still think that Twilight, regardless of having any more special powers, is going to be overpowered in general.

[Lunas Sorrow 21]

 

 

Hm...  Reminds me of an Avatar reference.  (Assuming Aang could energy bend non-benders to have bending abilities,)

 

I still think that Twilight, regardless of having any more special powers, is going to be overpowered in general.

well yeah alicorns are pretty powerful as shown by cadence in handling that defence spell in the Crystal Empire but i believe that it is in Twilights discovery of her own potential,the good and bad and the consequences would be a good show and i see alot of lessons that can be put into good use as twilight grows as a alicorn princess 

[John 793]

well yeah alicorns are pretty powerful as shown by cadence in handling that defence spell in the Crystal Empire but i believe that it is in Twilights discovery of her own potential,the good and bad and the consequences would be a good show and i see alot of lessons that can be put into good use as twilight grows as a alicorn princess 

 

Yes but then there's always the "then what?"  It seems to me like Twilight learning how to be an Alicorn has a lot less plot possibilities than her being a student.  They advanced her through all of the ranks and now she's going to have nothing to do save a few adventures as an Alicorn.  It reminds me of the Winterhold college quest on Skyrim.. :/

[Lunas Sorrow 21]

Yes but then there's always the "then what?"  It seems to me like Twilight learning how to be an Alicorn has a lot less plot possibilities than her being a student.  They advanced her through all of the ranks and now she's going to have nothing to do save a few adventures as an Alicorn.  It reminds me of the Winterhold college quest on Skyrim.. :/

i believe if its written quite well twilights development to a fully pledge Alicorn Princess could actually take 2-3 seasons(assuming that each season would have at the very least 20+ ep) more and assuming that Hasbro still plans to continue the show i believe they would sideline twilight and the other mane 6 as they are growing older as the show progresses and i believe that a show like MLP FIM with young adults as the main cast wouldnt click very well with the targeted audience (being young girls) 

 

so when twilight reaches her peak of her development i believe she would either get her own kingdom to rule or take over celestias throne when celestia "advocates"(could mean alot of things) it, and a new set of characters younger and having similar or wider range of personalities to come out (maybe even add other human race qualities like asians)

[John 793]

i believe if its written quite well twilights development to a fully pledge Alicorn Princess could actually take 2-3 seasons(assuming that each season would have at the very least 20+ ep) more and assuming that Hasbro still plans to continue the show i believe they would sideline twilight and the other mane 6 as they are growing older as the show progresses and i believe that a show like MLP FIM with young adults as the main cast wouldnt click very well with the targeted audience (being young girls) 

In my opinion, if Hasbro is smart, they will appeal to all of their customers, not only the originally targeted audience, which was young girls.  Our group, to be honest, probably gives Hasbro more money than the target audience did in the first place.  Besides, girls probably aren't as into MLP as they used to be.  Its a little too...  I would say complex (I don't know if this is the right word) for the average stupid American television watcher.  People today just want to see nonsense in cartoons; anything that will make them laugh.

 

 

so when twilight reaches her peak of her development i believe she would either get her own kingdom to rule or take over celestias throne when celestia "advocates"(could mean alot of things) it, and a new set of characters younger and having similar or wider range of personalities to come out (maybe even add other human race qualities like asians)

 

This could be good or bad.  I would never want to just abandon all of the old characters.  They are only from 2010, so I don't see why everyone has to jump the gun to replace them.

 

Also, I have a question.

Are black/African people in the MLP universe supposed to be represented by zebras?  I always thought that this was one of the implications based on the "don't be racist" episode that originally introduced Zecora.