I'm outraged by this Facebook anti-brony page

[Shiki 5,855]

I think for me, it depends on how they go about opposing my opinions. anyone can feel free to disagree with me, and if they want to engage in an intelligent conversation or debate, go for it.  but if they do it by these kind of means, then they can expect the same back from me.

 

If it makes me 'subhuman' Ah  well! I'm still confident that I'm mostly human and quite happy with who I am at the moment.

 

Don't feed the black wolf if you don't want to get bitten.

That one cliché phrase, "Two wrongs don't make a right" could and would fit perfectly, here.

 

If you believe you should treat the other person the way they treat you, you are, essentially, saying the other person should continue treating you in the same, horrible manner. Imagine it:

 

Someone calls you names and is being disrespectful.

You believe you should treat them the same way, so you are disrespectful back.

Now if you believe every one should treat others the way they are treated (I'm assuming you do), you are basically justifying their acts of nastiness, because if you are acting rude to them, where is any motivation for them to stop being rude to you? If they should treat others the way they are being treated, then they're doing it right.

[DusK 1,264]

Every one in the thread treating him as some kind of subhuman for having an opposing opinion is also a subhuman.

 

I am not the kindest person -- no, not anywhere near it; I'm almost the polar opposite -- but I don't go around, deeming those with opposing opinions to be lesser than me, no matter how irrational I find said opinion to be.

 

Exactly. You're not about to go around insisting that people are lesser than you - or "subhuman" - simply because they have an opinion about an unnecessarily hateful Facebook page and the guy that made it. That's just not who you are.

[Mikestar 346]

 

 

Someone calls you names and is being disrespectful. You believe you should treat them the same way, so you are disrespectful back. Now if you believe every one should treat others the way they are treated (I'm assuming you do), you are basically justifying their acts of nastiness, because if you are acting rude to them, where is any motivation for them to stop being rude to you? If they should treat others the way they are being treated, then they're doing it right.

 

We could go on all day my friend, but i'm not really that interested.

 

I am who I am, and i respond how i respond. right or wrong it's me.

 

I treat others respectfully and always give them the benefit of the doubt. I go out of my way to help others in need and be there for those I care about, and even those I don't know... however, if they have a go at me, they can expect the same back. That is different than me going out of my way to attack others randomly by creating hate sites across the internet or seeking them out just to make them feel crap. I'll always step up to defend someone else, and myself.

 

I'm not out to 'save' anyone's soul who chooses to be a hater of me. frankly... who cares?

 

I actually was not rude to those haters. I didn't post on their facebook at all. I just left em be. 

 

but I will NEVER be somebodies door mat. If they wanna have a go at me... and try to bring me down... then they have their work cut out for them!

 

This is how I feel.. you have every right to disagree and I completely respect that. your idea's are not flawed at all... they are just a bit different to mine that's all.

 

I'm done with this and still walking away from it happy and confident with who I am as a person. Someone has to stand up to the bullies. (not that you are, I just mean haters and bullies in general)

 

 

peace out.

 

Mikey.

[Shiki 5,855]

Exactly. You're not about to go around insisting that people are lesser than you - or "subhuman" - simply because they have an opinion about an unnecessarily hateful Facebook page and the guy that made it. That's just not who you are.

Nowhere have I said that any one is lesser than me.

 

I am saying I disagree with the way the thread is addressing the issue. I believe them to be incorrect in this manner.

 

I am not laughing at the thread's majority opinion, as if it is not a real opinion. That is what every one else seems to be doing towards the page in question, and I believe that to be incorrect.

 

There's no reason to get attitude with me. Attitude doesn't make an argument.

[~Lawful Jordo~ 2,066]

*Sees topic*

 

"Well, how bad could this group possibly be?"

 

*Checks out group*

 

.....

 

 

For real? This group isn't even that bad by hater standards. Seriously, they're pathetic. 

 

I have no idea why you guys are freaking out about these guys, they are clearly morons who wont accomplish anything. 

[DusK 1,264]

Nowhere have I said that any one is lesser than me.

 

You called people here "subhuman". So unless you're basically self-identifying as a "subhuman", yes, you did say that others are lesser than you.

 

A few people in this thread decided to treat this Facebook page with some disrespect. You apparently believe you should treat them the same way, so you are disrespectful to them.

 

If you believe every one should treat others the way they are treated (which you apparently do, contrary to your preaching, or else you wouldn't have opened your post doing the very thing you're criticizing others for doing), you are basically justifying their acts of nastiness, because if you are acting rude to them, where is any motivation for them to stop being rude to you? Or that Facebook page?

Edited July 15, 2013 by DusK

[Shiki 5,855]

 

 

You called people here "subhuman". So unless you're basically self-identifying as a "subhuman", yes, you did say that others are lesser than you.

• The page is treating bronies as subhumans.
• The bronies start treating the person as a subhuman because he is treating them as subhumans
• The bronies are subhumans by their very own definition, because they are treating someone else as a subhuman

This ^ is what I meant in my first post. I didn't mean to make it sound like I was personally calling them subhumans. That part was a bit of a fail on my part. I didn't elaborate enough. I meant to have this implied, but I guess I didn't do a good enough job.

 

The rest of your post is irrelevant, because it seemed to only be branching off this ^ misunderstanding.

[Mikestar 346]

 

 

 The page is treating bronies as subhumans. The bronies start treating the person as a subhuman because he is treating them as subhumans The bronies are subhumans by their very own definition, because they are treating someone else as a subhuman

 

 

If this is the case... I'm so bucking proud to be subhuman!

 

Go Bronies!

 

Nothing wrong with having four hooves and a tail after all 

 

[DusK 1,264]

 

• The page is treating bronies as subhumans.
• The bronies start treating the person as a subhuman because he is treating them as subhumans
• The bronies are subhumans by their very own definition, because they are treating someone else as a subhuman

This ^ is what I meant in my first post. I didn't mean to make it sound like I was personally calling them subhumans. That part was a bit of a fail on my part. I didn't elaborate enough. I meant to have this implied, but I guess I didn't do a good enough job.

 

The rest of your post is irrelevant, because it seemed to only be branching off this ^ misunderstanding.

 

 

Okay, okay. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

 

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on your key points, though. See, unlike the views of Facebook page being discussed, and those of its owner, the views expressed here in response by most are actually valid. The guy who runs that Facebook page has zero rational basis for his viewpoint, and goes far enough to accentuate those views with hate speech. Most of the people criticizing that Facebook page are doing so because they recognize that fact.

 

Unproductive? Maybe. But by no means undeserved, and coddling and respecting that guy wouldn't change anything, least of all his heavily-ingrained viewpoints. To insist that maybe he'd come around if we be nice to him is to insist this guy's views are, to any degree, rooted in reason. And trying legitimately to convince an unreasonable person that they're wrong, that is a time-waster.

 

Believe me, I'd know.

Edited July 15, 2013 by DusK

[Norman 177]

Everyone says we should tolerate haters, and ignore them or act maturely. I prefer mass manhunts and murder. It's more entertaining (I'm not a crazy at all, you see). 

[Shiki 5,855]

 

 

See, unlike the views of Facebook page being discussed, and those of its owner, the views expressed here in response by most are actually valid. The guy who runs that Facebook page has zero rational basis for his viewpoint, and goes far enough to accentuate those views with hate speech. Most of the people criticizing that Facebook page are doing so because they recognize that fact. Unproductive? Maybe. But by no means undeserved

This is where things are strictly opinionated, and nothing more. (But yes, I do know his opinion isn't thought out at all, really)

 

 

 

coddling and respecting that guy wouldn't change anything, least of all his heavily-ingrained viewpoints.

The point of respecting him would not be to change him. I (oddly enough) am the type that has very high standards for my morals, and purposely disrespecting someone goes against those said morals. There's really not much more to it, than that.

 

Basically, this is a stance of, "should we treat nasty people nicely?" And because this is solely opinionated, and there's no concrete "right" or "wrong," there's not much true debate content.

 

I have no "problem" with every one deciding to be mean to him, don't get me wrong. They can, if they want. It's their choice. However, I don't believe it is "right," so I expressed so by posting. I just won't and don't like it, is all.

[Toastie 110]

This page brought me more laugh than hate for them. Some of the pictures were pretty funny as well

The page also looks like he's as normal as us if he's made a dedicated hate page xD

[\/ 651]

It really doesn't matter that much if you don't know, or care that it's there. If you just ignore it you can go on with your life just fine, and unless they challenge you about being a brony, you can just leave them alone.

[Ali_Derp 89]

Ha Ha!! I Reported Them And Said Something About Us, Then I Got Banned From The Page :l Oh Well... Just Leave Them Alone I Thinks!

[Flying wub 48]

I HATE persons that go all out and makes a facebook account about hating persons that likes a cartoon if you ask me that´s some real

bullc**p why does they think bad about persons that likes a cartoon i don´t get it, can someone tell me why they do this,

i just get sad when i see something so negative about others that does´nt do anything bad to them!?!?

[--Thunder Bolt-- 534]

I can't help it, the title of this thread makes me think of this:

 

 

While "Brony Destroyer" is at it, maybe he could hate all those football fans who paint their faces and bodies in their team colors and go to games in hopes of getting shown on TV?

[Swick (ded) 436]

Stuff like that doesn't bother me.I clicked the link and made a sarcastic comment about how I agree that nobody should be allowed to like a show and have their own opinions, and while I look forward to his reaction, I won't care either way. ***EDIT: Nope, he deleted it. Seems he only publishes screencaps of the stupid brony comments. XD

Edited July 15, 2013 by Swick

[vickersvimy 8]

Where do people get the time to make these pages? Also is 'Manchild' even a word? He just seems to be posting images of annoyed bronies for no reason except to annoy more bronies to post so that he can post more images and criticisms that are just sad.

[Galen 1,354]

 

 

Unproductive? Maybe. But by no means undeserved, and coddling and respecting that guy wouldn't change anything, least of all his heavily-ingrained viewpoints. To insist that maybe he'd come around if we be nice to him is to insist this guy's views are, to any degree, rooted in reason. And trying legitimately to convince an unreasonable person that they're wrong, that is a time-waster.

 

How about being nice to him for the sake of being nice? It is true that what he does is disrespectful toward bronies but it's rather trivial and no reason to be outraged. Like I said, haters gonna hate, and angry reactions is exactly what he wants to see because it would prove his point. Showing him that's not our game is the best way to defeat him if that's what you want to do. You can either ignore him or be nice to him and show his hatred doesn't phase you. Using the same method, that is to disrespect him, is only playing his game and doesn't make one better than him as a result.

[-BleachedOne- 233]

And THIS, my brony friends, is why I suspended and am pending erasing my Facebook page. Well, besides the ever-present "Not wanting the NSA tracking me through my personal pages," of course. They're feeding the fire because other bronies are reacting to their hatred and trying to prove them wrong. A message to all those bronies that TRY that? Don't do it. You make the rest of us look desperate to be liked. Learn like the rest of us: stop caring about what they're saying, avoid them, and stay happy. At least WE have the satisfaction of knowing that we're a part of a fandom that accepts us.

 

In a nutshell? Let them stew in their hatred. Ignore them.

[Shanks 10,816]

We won't solve anything like that and make bad examples of ourselves to complain and start arguing on a Facebook page. I mean it's immature.

I agree with you on that, but I just think that addressing them in any fashion whether it be positive or negative is a waste of time because they will not listen. If it really is addressed to bronies who might be inclined to give angry responses than that might be more likely to reach someone.

[Fridge 382]

I think what I'm about to say here has been pretty much covered but I'll throw my bit in.

 

Does it really matter? If it offends you report it and move on otherwise why bother? There are pockets of people who just dislike bronies because we exist, nothing can be done about this.

So leave them be and enjoy your corner (corners maybe) of the Internet.

[Gone Airbourne 21,977]

Oh yay more stupid people... Don't pay them any attention I don't know how many times that has been said before. There are always going to be people like this out there but honestly who cares?? 

[The Soldier 2,044]

-snip-

 

Whoa! Yo, Harmonic! Check this out, man! The dude actually replied to it! You're on the Internet!

 

Wave your hand and say hello to the viewers, dude!

[jw5587 182]

Meh, I just reported the page for cyberbullying. I don't really expect anything to be done about it, but whatever. That person is completely moronic. It really isn't worth anyone's time.