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Why do so many people dislike Rarity so much and like Rainbow Dash so much?


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You have a point, but I still don't think she should be leading Spike on so much.

perhaps she's leading him on, but Spike it's still a kid, how do you think he would handle a heartbreak? But don't you think that this is an act of generosity? heh :comeatus:  

 

 

 

Humor or not, she's still using other people just because she can. 
 

I see it as a 'this is what you get for getting me around all of this...nature' sort of thing. It would have been pretty cruel if Sweetie Belle was complaining for pulling the cart. But I see where you're getting at. Characters redeem themselves don't they? and she did in Rarity Takes Manehattan, but if you ask me, she didn't need to redeem herself at all because some bronies can't get to see through her make up if you know what I mean.

 

@, I really understand you, I do. For, me Rarity is best pony and that's not gonna change, and Rainbow Dash is least, and that's not gonna change and still, I cannot forget the bad taste that she left in my mouth during the first seasons. But really you're looking pretty bad right now and never hurts to step back and be humble and say sorry and admit that you are not right.

It's okay if you hate her because she's a bitch to you, because you can't stand to see her on screen, whatever. But what you can't do is to assume things about her character that are very blunt and reckless to say if you ask me, and that 'stop quoting me' tells me even more that you lack arguments to defend your position. Sometimes we have to leave the pride aside and admit our faults. And besides, if you can't stand her why do you have a RD-like avatar anyways?


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II love Rarity. Just not as much as Dashie.

 

Rarity is my 3rd fave of the mane 6.(1st being Flutters 2nd being Dash) It wasn't until her episode "Rarity Takes Manehattan" that she really grew on me.So after that I went back and watched all the other Rarity episodes...she's going to be in my top 3 for awhile. 

 

Dash used to be my fave pony when I started watching MLP back in the first half of season 1.But since then she's kinda more a turn off. But she does have her moments. I liked her in "Daring Don't" and the newest CMC Episode (I forget what it's called) I also like her overall design.


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I just don't like Rarity because she is manipulative liar, and whines to get she wants.

 

Case and point, in the Episode Putting your hoof down, she manipulated the nerdy stallion by lieing and sweet talking him. (Nothing I hate more than a woman sweet being a manipulative liar, especially to the opposite gender, so this is an absolutely horrible lesson to be teaching young girls.)

 

This part I can understand but:

 

In the episode a Dog and Pony Show, she whined and complained, and bitched until she got what she wanted. (Again Not a good lesson to be teaching young girls)

 

That and the fact I can in no way relate to her.

 

Dude she was being held hostage against her will...It was all part of her plan so the dogs would get sick of her and not want her anymore. And what did it matter? They deserved it.


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This just shows that Rarity is a very cunning character. The show does have to have some of the characters delve into a negative light from time to time. Fluttershy anger. Applejack stubbornness. Rarity's cunning is useful to the group at times.

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This just shows that Rarity is a very cunning character. The show does have to have some of the characters delve into a negative light from time to time. Fluttershy anger. Applejack stubbornness. Rarity's cunning is useful to the group at times.

True. But none of them are perfect. All six of them have flaws.

 

Sure Rarity can be vain. But all 6 of the ponies have flaws. None of them are actually perfect.

 

Rainbow Dash is also very vain. And she's also arrogant and obnoxious and too competitive. She's the one with the very most flaws imo.

 

Twilight Sparkle can be too obsessive-compulsive.

 

Applejack can be stubborn and also too competitive at times.

 

Pinkie Pie lacks seriousness and is socially imbalanced.

 

Fluttershy is also socially imbalanced and her shyness can and sometimes does make her a pushover.

 

So technically they all have flaws. But it's also a part of what makes them good characters.


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I am actually surprised I thought Rarity and RainbowDash would be at the top of everyone's like list. It is a shame she isn't more well liked. Maybe there will be a season where she breaks out and develops more as an individual. I would like to see that in Applejack too. 

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In the episode a Dog and Pony Show, she whined and complained, and bitched until she got what she wanted. (Again Not a good lesson to be teaching young girls)

 

That and the fact I can in no way relate to her.

If this is what you got from the episode, then you missed the entire point of it.

Now, I don't remember the lesson to well, but I remember her saying "just because I'm a lady doesn't mean I'm not capable of handling a sticky situation". Sounds more like you should never underestimate your friends

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I must admit that this topic has lost its relevance, because Rarity now sits on a throne.  Glory to the new Queen!

 

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NO!

 

I should be sitting on that!

 

I am actually surprised I thought Rarity and RainbowDash would be at the top of everyone's like list. It is a shame she isn't more well liked. Maybe there will be a season where she breaks out and develops more as an individual. I would like to see that in Applejack too.

 

Rarity Suri takes Manehatten and Pinkie Apple Pie did a decent job. If we had more of these kind of episodes, AJ and Rarity Suri would be liked a bit more; they have potential, m'kay?
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I just don't like Rarity because she is manipulative liar, and whines to get what she wants.

 

Case and point, in the Episode Putting your hoof down, she manipulated the nerdy stallion by lieing and sweet talking him. (Nothing I hate more than a woman sweet being a manipulative liar, especially to the opposite gender, so this is an absolutely horrible lesson to be teaching young girls.)

 

In the episode a Dog and Pony Show, she whined and complained, and bitched until she got what she wanted. (Again Not a good lesson to be teaching young girls)

 

That and the fact I can in no way relate to her.

>manipulated the nerdy stallion

Because he unknowingly cut Fluttershy in line. She did it for Fluttershy and repaid him.

To imply that this is malicious in any way is stupid.

 

>bad lesson to teach little girls

teaching little girls to use their assets for a good purpose is bad? Because they'll know they can manipulate men instinctively.

 

 

>whined and complained to get her way

No, she used cleverly used something she's self aware about (that she's whiney) to get out of a bad situation.

 

>not a good lesson to teach young girls

Dumb. That was not the lesson.

And you can't say it implied that because it not only never even did that but again, little girls who whine to get their way do so because parents enable them. Not because a cartoon horse showed them to.

Pretty much this.

 

She's also incredibly lazy. Every time she has bags (and it's always a ton of them), she gets someone else to carry it all (whether that be Spike (who she constantly takes advantage of), Sweetie Bell, or the stallion in Sweet and Elite). This is something snobby, stuck up rich people do who think they're too "superior" to carry bags or whatever.

 

Rainbow Dash is usually annoying with her constant ego strokes that just get repetitive. I wish her character was more of a "ego centric character that think's they're awesome but constantly messes up" type of character instead of what she is now. This is one of the reasons I didn't hate the Mysterious Mare Do Well Episode (it was still not great, but not nearly as bad as everyone says). I still like her more than Rarity though because at least Rainbow Dash has a reason to be arrogant and egocentric. Rarity is manipulative just because she can.

>takes advantage of Spike

Must be why she has sown more concern over his wellbeing than anyone else in the mane cast and risked her life for him twice (ADaPS and DQ).

Nice try, they all use Spike for labor. She at least reciprocates

 

>Sweetie Belle

Guess you missed the tender moments between them. Poorly thought out jokes are not the fault of the character.

 

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His job. It was not done out of snobbery.

Just because you assert she is snobby (despite several instances of her stepping out of her comfort zone and/or lowering her status to help others) doesn't mean she is.

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Personally I think the whole idea of arguing over which character is better is silly.  One of the big things I love about MLP is the diversity of characters... it makes it so everybody can find one of the Mane 6 that they somewhat relate to.  So sure some people will love Rainbow Dash because they're the type of character they relate to.  If they didn't have an athletic type pony with a bit of an ego, there's a lot of people that wouldn't have a character to relate to.  At the same time, some people can't relate at all to her so of course they'll like her the least.  Same goes for Rarity and all the characters.

 

I think the reason those two characters in particular have the most diversity in opinions on them is because they're easy to associate with people that you generally don't like.  Rarity reminds you of the annoying drama queen type that a lot of people can't stand to be around, and Rainbow Dash reminds people of the jock type.  It's just easy to compare those two characters to people in our real lives that we really don't like or have had personal bad experiences with.

 

That being said, the other thing I love about MLP is that it also shows us the good in those types of people.  Sure Rainbow can be egotistical, but she's also loyal to her friends.  She might be aggressive at times and make snap judgments, but she doesn't do it to bully people, she does it to protect her friends.  There's a lot of good in Rainbow Dash.

 

Same goes for Rarity.  Sure she can be whiny and self centered, but then you see her work on her dresses and instead of seeing her as self centered, you start to see that she's really just focused on her art and her work.  She's a little obsessive about things, and I can actually relate to that.  

 

Anyway just my thoughts on the subject... I think it's easy to argue about which characters are good or bad, but I always like to remember that the Mane 6 all have really good qualities and they all represent a different type of person, and I like the idea that all personalities can be portrayed as a generally good person, even if they are flawed.

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>manipulated the nerdy stallion

Because he unknowingly cut Fluttershy in line. She did it for Fluttershy and repaid him.

To imply that this is malicious in any way is stupid.

 

>bad lesson to teach little girls

teaching little girls to use their assets for a good purpose is bad? Because they'll know they can manipulate men instinctively.

 

 

>whined and complained to get her way

No, she used cleverly used something she's self aware about (that she's whiney) to get out of a bad situation.

 

>not a good lesson to teach young girls

Dumb. That was not the lesson.

And you can't say it implied that because it not only never even did that but again, little girls who whine to get their way do so because parents enable them. Not because a cartoon horse showed them to.\

 

 

 

Whatever you want to believe man. That is just how I see her. Granted you make some good points.

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Whatever you want to believe man. That is just how I see her. Granted you make some good points.

Very well. Agree to disagree then.

 

I'll even ignore that little rhetorical tactic.

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Very well. Agree to disagree then.

 

I'll even ignore that little rhetorical tactic.

 

I don't know why I dish out all my hate on Rarity. She isn't even my least favorite of the main six, and I still think she is adorable.

 

The whole "Dog and Pony show" excuse I used I just blew out of proportion, made it seem like a bigger deal then it was.

 

But I still don't like what she did in "Putting your hoof down." I just hate seeing women taking advantage of men by using their good looks, and through sweet talking.

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I find that Rarity can be a stuck up cow, and Rainbow Dash can be an overconfident, cringe worthy, cheesy character. But honestly, what ever floats your floaters is fine by me.

well I disagree that Rarity is stuckup.

Maybe in LBYS, sure. But overall she's pretty amiable with her friends and others.

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I think outwardly that Rainbow Dash and Rarity act selfish and conceited respectively because it facilitates inner conflict for them. This makes it an ultimately bigger sacrifice for them personally when they give in to the element that they represent. Becuase being succesful in their respective fields is so important for them (virtually all consuming) it shows greater personality traits in the end that RD and rarity will always eventually put their friends first. I think it's primarily to facilitate the plot and I am a fan of both ponies despite obvious character flaws. We all have them, yes?

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I think it's primarily to facilitate the plot and I am a fan of both ponies despite obvious character flaws. We all have them, yes?

 

And most of the time it's played for laughs, especially Rarity in pretty much episode with the mane 6. 

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Ughh. This topic is cancerous. Why won't it just go away?

 

Personally, I think Rarity hate has been decreasing significantly in the fandom since S4 started.

Honestly, man, this topic is more outdated than Top Hats and Monocles in the fashion world.

I'll just keep clinging on to my little belief that one day people will realize that none of the mane 6 are bitches, though, because someone's gotta catch the ass end of people just needing something to hate, and since it's starting to turn off of Rarity, some other pony has got to get it.

 

People hate just to hate, and that's all there is to it.

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I gotta ask, Seriously, Why exactly do so many people dislike Rarity so much and say that she's their least favorite pony? And why exactly do so many people like Rainbow Dash so much and say that she's their favorite pony? Twilight Sparkle and Fluttershy I can easily understand why people like but Rainbow Dash? Really? She's alot more selfish and obnoxious than Rarity if you ask me...She's a conceited show-off and mostly seems to only think and care about herself alot of the time...She's definitely my least favorite out of the mane 6...Why exactly do people like her? (Don't hurt/kill me for saying that please RD fans)

 

But at least Rarity shows acts of generosity sometimes and does things for other ponies like making dresses etc...What exactly do people have against her?

Both Rarity and Fluttershy may drop in my least favorite ponies but RD comes a close second... Pinkie Pie is the bomb...

 

I dont understand why alot of people hate Rarity but really? SHE IS THE ELEMENT OF GENEROSITY GUYS!

 

Plus RD betrayed the mane 6 and Bulk Biceps for Team Cloudsdale in Episode 10 of Season 4... (Rainbow Falls)


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