Sweetiebelle has finally learned how to utilize magic?

[Zygen 6,066]

So in the season 4 premier we had the everfree takeover, and when it got to Rarities house it sort of like infected or possessed her horn, it messed up ok? ;p. 

 

Anyways, shortly after Sweetiebelle is seen with the same problem Rarity had, her horn is out of control.

 

But wait, wasn't Sweetiebelle incapable of any magic before this point? Besides very short sparks that really meant nothing as far as use? Now you might think this doesn't mean anything, that its just the everfree doing this. However, when Rarity's horn was possessed or controlled or malfunctioned, whatever happened to it, she was using magic. Then it shorted out and no longer worked. And thats the thing, it infected her horn WHILE she was using magic. 

 

This leads me to believe that maybe that is the only way that the horn can be infected, is when the horn is being used, and the everfree magic wonders by. infecting the horn. And we see that Sweetiebelle had been infected, or whatever it is, so does this mean she was using magic beforehand? It seems likely to me.

 

But wait, theres more! For those of you wondering how I can assume that the horn has to be in use from one simple example, take into consideration Twilight.

 

She is a Unicorn as well, and it seems like the everfree was plentiful enough that it should be able to get to her and corrupt her, but the thing is the magic never passed by her while using her magic. However she still ends up using her magic later on in the forest. I think this further supports that the horn can maybe only be infected if the horn is used in the presence of this, "Everfree magic"

 

However this is all theory and speculation, and i'm sure we'll find out for sure soon in the next CMC episode, or maybe sooner, but i feel like speculating anyways!

 

So what do you think? You think i'm onto something? Or am i just crazy?(well, actually i am crazy.... but am I just over analyzing?) Curious to see what y'all think! So discuss on!

Edited December 8, 2013 by ~Sadistic Feld0~
Added some paragraph breaks.

[Courageous Thunder Dash 7,824]

Sweetie Belle may be able to do a tiny bit of magic. But realize that the Everfree Forest had full possession over her horn. There may be an episode where Sweetie Belle tries magic for the first time though. 

[Radiance64 7,053]

I think she might have just been practicing with magic or something, and then the surge happened. Perhaps we'll end up seeing her use magic more this season then.

[Hyper Tumble 1,483]

I think you answered your own question in the post, but I hope they let Sweetie Belle use magic later in the season.

[Zygen 6,066]

Sweetie Belle may be able to do a tiny bit of magic. But realize that the Everfree Forest had full possession over her horn. There may be an episode where Sweetie Belle tries magic for the first time though. 

Thats true, its possible she did just use some random tiny bit during the time, or that my theory is simply false.

 

At the very least it atleast confirms sweetiebelle has the capacity to use magic eventually.

 

I think she might have just been practicing with magic or something, and then the surge happened. Perhaps we'll end up seeing her use magic more this season then.

Possibly, but i mean before now she hasn't really used magic before, so this would atleast means shes grown to know some form of magic by now.

 

I'd be surprised if she doesn't have some form of use of magic this season.

 

I think you answered your own question in the post, but I hope they let Sweetie Belle use magic later in the season.

Well, i was just asking to see if people through my theory had merit or was baloney basically ;p.

 

And like i said, i'd be surprised if they don't.

[Scootalove 10,689]

She's been having magical surges or surges that occur when Sweetie Belle tries to do magic. I just hope when the writers do have her learn magic, she will be able to control the surges.

[Zygen 6,066]

She's been having magical surges or surges that occur when Sweetie Belle tries to do magic. I just hope when the writers do have her learn magic, she will be able to control the surges.

True, i guess you have a point there.

 

And yeah i agree, of course it seems like Unicorns take a good bit of time to learn to use magic correctly. But i'm sure she'll use some by the end of the season, i'd be surprised otherwise.

[Scootalove 10,689]

True, i guess you have a point there.

 

And yeah i agree, of course it seems like Unicorns take a good bit of time to learn to use magic correctly. But i'm sure she'll use some by the end of the season, i'd be surprised otherwise.

I would be surprised too, Sweetie Belle would have to get the hang of it once she is able to learn how to control and use her magic in a stable way.

 

[Vinyl Scratch (Filly)™ 936]

I wasn't aware of Sweetie Belle ever being incapable of magic, I always just assumed she could do a tiny bit.

[Zygen 6,066]

I would be surprised too, Sweetie Belle would have to get the hang of it once she is able to learn how to control and use her magic in a stable way.

 

Yeah, its a possibly good episode idea even, who knows. 

 

I think her magic will be expanded upon in some form atleast, it already was in S3, so yeah.

 

I wasn't aware of Sweetie Belle ever being incapable of magic, I always just assumed she could do a tiny bit.

Well, i mean she could never really use it exactly, as in she only really ever had little sparks, but could never even do a levitation spell.

 

I guess its worded a bit poorly, implies she could never use it. I suppose its possible that people can think that, but i don't personally.

 

So sorry for the somewhat poor wording, my bad.

[Hive King 2,001]

Her magic is green as seen in the Bad Seed episode, she is secretly Sombra's heir! But seriously, if Princess Platinum was a descendent of "the unicorn king", perhaps Sweetie is Sombra's heir. The moral would be that your heritage does not dictate who you are. Also, we'd get to see dark magic Sweetie Belle!

[Zygen 6,066]

Her magic is green as seen in the Bad Seed episode, she is secretly Sombra's heir! But seriously, if Princess Platinum was a descendent of "the unicorn king", perhaps Sweetie is Sombra's heir. The moral would be that your heritage does not dictate who you are. Also, we'd get to see dark magic Sweetie Belle!

Interesting theory. And while it is green, it was just a spark really. So it doesn't quite count as full magic use quite yet.

 

But i'm sure her magic is green.

 

However as interesting a theory that is the magic color is typically just determined by the color of the ponies eyes. Its consistently with essentially all Unicorns regarding their magic Aura.

 

Plus, Rarity isn't necessarily a descendant of Princess platinum, atleast its not stated, its just that she played her in the hearths warming eve play. I don't remember her heritage being mentioned though.

 

but an interesting theory.

[Cwanky 17,579]

Its a bit difficult to explain but really, Sweetie Belle always could use magic, much like how a baby could talk and walk. Pound Cake and Pumpkin Cake can fly and use magic but not control these abilities. Sweetie Belle doesn't seem to have any stunted growth or any defects at birth or diseases, so I think we can assume she has very limited control of her magic.

 

Its similar to Scootaloo. She very likely has the capabilities to fly, beyond that of a chicken that is. She just hasn't learned to fully use those powers yet OR hasn't fully matured to the extent that she can use her flight in a more advanced way.

[pinkiefan1287 610]

That was a question I started asking myself during that episode. Maybe, Sweetiebell can use magic, but does not focus any real training on magic so she can only do a few things.

[Zygen 6,066]

Its a bit difficult to explain but really, Sweetie Belle always could use magic, much like how a baby could talk and walk. Pound Cake and Pumpkin Cake can fly and use magic but not control these abilities. Sweetie Belle doesn't seem to have any stunted growth or any defects at birth or diseases, so I think we can assume she has very limited control of her magic.

 

Its similar to Scootaloo. She very likely has the capabilities to fly, beyond that of a chicken that is. She just hasn't learned to fully use those powers yet OR hasn't fully matured to the extent that she can use her flight in a more advanced way.

Yeah, i actually believed she could use magic i guess, but i worded this a bit poorly.

 

Its more that i felt she couldn't utilize it really, or i guess control it, and i think with the premier she might be able to to an extent now.

 

As far as Scootaloo i think she may have been said to be incapable of flying my Lauren one time, but i guess we'll see, maybe we'll get an episode about it.

 

That was a question I started asking myself during that episode. Maybe, Sweetiebell can use magic, but does not focus any real training on magic so she can only do a few things.

Glad i ain't the only one. 

 

And really she hasn't used her magic at all that i'm aware of prior to this, and even this is theory.

 

The most she did with magic is the spark during "Bab seed"

 

Its possible she doesn't practice much either, she isn't exactly a Twilight, nor as talented of course ;p.

[Cwanky 17,579]

 

Yeah, i actually believed she could use magic i guess, but i worded this a bit poorly.

 

Its more that i felt she couldn't utilize it really, or i guess control it, and i think with the premier she might be able to to an extent now.

 

As far as Scootaloo i think she may have been said to be incapable of flying my Lauren one time, but i guess we'll see, maybe we'll get an episode about it.

 

Glad i ain't the only one. 

 

And really she hasn't used her magic at all that i'm aware of prior to this, and even this is theory.

 

The most she did with magic is the spark during "Bab seed"

 

Its possible she doesn't practice much either, she isn't exactly a Twilight, nor as talented of course ;p.

 

In that sense yes I do agree with what you've said. Sweetie Belle has limited control over her magic. At this point though, I don't think she really needs to have magic, it would benefit her, but its a skill she can do without.

 

As for Scootaloo, I'm willing to wager that the Season 4 episode 5, Flight to the Finish 

 

"Rainbow Dash is over the moon to be coaching the young ponies in Scootaloo’s class for their competition to carry the flag at the upcoming Equestria Games. Just as the Cutie Mark Crusaders find their rhythm, Diamond Tiara‘s taunting becomes too much to handle and Scootaloo begins to doubt herself and her team"^[7][8]

, win

May show us actual Scootaloo flying under Rainbow Dash's guiding, albeit at times reckless   , wings, if not at least some hovering or falling with style. I mean the episode title itself says has the word "flight" in there and the CMCs and Scootaloo are the main characters, not Rainbow. Also the trailer referenced that episode showing Diamond Tiara and Silverspoon mocking Scootaloo for the fact that she can't fly. So I wouldn't be surprised if she manages to overcome her weakness and prove them wrong by flying.

[JonPear 209]

Twilight is also an alicorn now; maybe alicorns are Everfree-magic-corruption-proof?

 

Maybe something similar to this happened:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YromwleFZaE

[Zygen 6,066]

In that sense yes I do agree with what you've said. Sweetie Belle has limited control over her magic. At this point though, I don't think she really needs to have magic, it would benefit her, but its a skill she can do without.

 

As for Scootaloo, I'm willing to wager that the Season 4 episode 5, Flight to the Finish 

 

"Rainbow Dash is over the moon to be coaching the young ponies in Scootaloo’s class for their competition to carry the flag at the upcoming Equestria Games. Just as the Cutie Mark Crusaders find their rhythm, Diamond Tiara‘s taunting becomes too much to handle and Scootaloo begins to doubt herself and her team"^[7][8]

, win

May show us actual Scootaloo flying under Rainbow Dash's guiding, albeit at times reckless   , wings, if not at least some hovering or falling with style. I mean the episode title itself says has the word "flight" in there and the CMCs and Scootaloo are the main characters, not Rainbow. Also the trailer referenced that episode showing Diamond Tiara and Silverspoon mocking Scootaloo for the fact that she can't fly. So I wouldn't be surprised if she manages to overcome her weakness and prove them wrong by flying.

Oh yeah, its possible entirely i guess. But i dunno she may learn to fly she may not.

 

In an odd way i almost like her better unable to fly, i feel kinda messed up saying that, but its kinda true, it feels like it adds to her character.

 

And yeah sweetiebelle can probably live without magic really for now.

 

Twilight is also an alicorn now; maybe alicorns are Everfree-magic-corruption-proof?

 

Maybe something similar to this happened:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YromwleFZaE

Possible, and an argument i don't have much counter to ;p.

 

And i'd classify that as a magic surge. And its possible Sweetiebelle had one, as many unicorns do at younger ages. Or maybe even the Everfree magic caused it.

[hawkflame 3,310]

Of course Sweetie Belle could do magic.  Remember, back in season 3 she was able to shoot sparks from her horn while she and the rest of the CMC were waiting for Babs.  So your theory is plausible, assuming she was doing something extremely simple like that. 

 

I think it's unlikely, since Sweetie Belle tapping into her magic abilities is probably too significant to be kept offscreen, but not impossible.

[FNGRpony 658]

Of course Sweetie Belle could do magic.  Remember, back in season 3 she was able to shoot sparks from her horn while she and the rest of the CMC were waiting for Babs.  So your theory is plausible, assuming she was doing something extremely simple like that. 

 

I think it's unlikely, since Sweetie Belle tapping into her magic abilities is probably too significant to be kept offscreen, but not impossible.

 

 

well lets assume scoots can't fly.

 

she can still walk on clouds correct.

is that not magical?

 

i'm assuming sweetie has some basic stuff raw power in her at least.

 

oh and hawk i think i may have hit report on accident to your post, is there a way to cancel that?

Edited December 4, 2013 by FNGRpony

[CrystalRose 636]

I noticed this too. I think she was probably practicing simple little spells while she was up in her room. Nothing major, just sparks or easy spells. I liked the show's little nod to it.

[Sunny Fox 5,950]

Sweetie Belle never used "magic" in One Bad Apple. Her horn sparked briefly because she was so excited, and nobody even noticed, not even Sweetie Belle herself. Several time in the episode, Scootaloo hovered a bit, but I wouldn't call that flying either, at least not to the extent that even the acknowledged weak flier Fluttershy can do. While there is certainly nothing I would say proves your theory wrong, Zygen, what you've presented is not a very strong case for Sweetie practicing her magic. Being a unicorn, she of course has the potential to do magic, so the Everfree Forest magic could affect her even if she wasn't actively practicing at the time. Basically, until we see her doing magic, it'll be unclear if she can or not.

 

Oh, and the "magic aura matches the eyes" theory has a few counterexamples, so there's that too.

Edited December 4, 2013 by SolarFox

[Harmonic Revelations 8,835]

It could also be possible that whatever caused Rarity's and Sweetie Belle's horns to act that way was responsible for casting the magic in it's entirety and not the ponies themselves. I guess we'll have to see what happens in the rest of the season.

 

 

 

oh and hawk i think i may have hit report on accident to your post, is there a way to cancel that?

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[Malinter 3,064]

Sweetie Belle as always been able to use magic, she just hasn't found an applicable talent to use it with. I'm pretty sure she's used her horn in previous episodes for practical stuff like lifting objects and stuff but nothing as complex as creating something like a dress or a spell like summoning an item.

[Zygen 6,066]

Of course Sweetie Belle could do magic.  Remember, back in season 3 she was able to shoot sparks from her horn while she and the rest of the CMC were waiting for Babs.  So your theory is plausible, assuming she was doing something extremely simple like that. 

 

I think it's unlikely, since Sweetie Belle tapping into her magic abilities is probably too significant to be kept offscreen, but not impossible.

I guess thats true, seems odd for them to keep offscreen, just wondering if it may be some hint towards her possibly using magic later in the season.

 

I noticed this too. I think she was probably practicing simple little spells while she was up in her room. Nothing major, just sparks or easy spells. I liked the show's little nod to it.

Yeah, i doubt a Unicorn her age would do anything crazy.

 

Sweetie Belle never used "magic" in One Bad Apple. Her horn sparked briefly because she was so excited, and nobody even noticed, not even Sweetie Belle herself. Several time in the episode, Scootaloo hovered a bit, but I wouldn't call that flying either, at least not to the extent that even the acknowledged weak flier Fluttershy can do. While there is certainly nothing I would say proves your theory wrong, Zygen, what you've presented is not a very strong case for Sweetie practicing her magic. Being a unicorn, she of course has the potential to do magic, so the Everfree Forest magic could affect her even if she wasn't actively practicing at the time. Basically, until we see her doing magic, it'll be unclear if she can or not.

 

Oh, and the "magic aura matches the eyes" theory has a few counterexamples, so there's that too.

Yeah thats true. And i suppose it isn't a super strong case, probably just a bit of an overanalysis. It made some sense i guess at the time.

 

And its entirely possible the everfree could've done the magic. 

 

It was fun making the far fetched theory ;p.

 

And yeah thats true, but the majority follow the "Magic Aura Matches the eyes" theory thing. Enough.

 

It could also be possible that whatever caused Rarity's and Sweetie Belle's horns to act that way was responsible for casting the magic in it's entirety and not the ponies themselves. I guess we'll have to see what happens in the rest of the season.

 

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Well, it isn't totally responsible for it, because it did atleast influence their horns, but yeah its possible.

 

I'm sure by the next CMC episode we'll probably see.

 

Sweetie Belle as always been able to use magic, she just hasn't found an applicable talent to use it with. I'm pretty sure she's used her horn in previous episodes for practical stuff like lifting objects and stuff but nothing as complex as creating something like a dress or a spell like summoning an item.

Well, as far as times shes used magic, she hasn't quite yet. 

 

There are no examples where she uses her horn for anything even simple stuff.

 

Not to say she couldn't, but yeah. 

 

And i suppose its true she hasn't needed it for alot.