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Well, the reason Button Mash had to stop was because the design had already appeared in the "Hearts and Hooves Day" episode, so Hasbro already owned the design for BM (lol BM). Ponies like Snowdrop didn't have their designs made by Hasbro, so it'd be legal to use them in a video/art as long as it's either yours, the original creator let you use it, or if the creator just doesn't give a shit.

Anypony up for a "Button's Mom Has Got It Goin' On" spin-off miniseries.  ;)  ;)  B)

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Copyright laws are always written in a small period of time as a reaction to someone downloading one boob online.

as a result of this they are normally rushed and poorly written, which give many loopholes and inconsistencies, which means that content owners have to be very careful with their content.

 

Damnit government, write a stable copyright bill for once XD


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This is, mind my language, f*cking ridiculous. Jan is a fantastic animator, he helped create the Brony documentary and a lot of the best Pony fan animations. Hasbro are literally killing their own fan base. I don't understand what has changed to make them do this. If anything, the fan videos actually benefit them, bringing more people into the community.

 

But no, Hasbro have to be unreasonable again. Feel really sorry for Jan. The amount to time and effort he put into every single one of his animations, to just be coldly told he cannot use them. Hasbro really needs to sort their stuff out. 


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I implore you to look at his latest post, talking about how hasbro gave children gifts in his local area. The fact that he started a counter thread, and then went on to try to show how being bought off means hasbro is the good guy. Either he is trolling at this point, deliberately trying to sound as leftist as possible, or he is extremely enamored with a mega company. And this is not even close to "in-fighting", it is merely a simple argument on the internet.

Considering the numerous times his reason for defending Hasbro changed (first it was because of a year studying law, now it's them giving away presents). I'm starting to expect trolling.
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Anypony up for a "Button's Mom Has Got It Goin' On" spin-off miniseries. ;);)B)

Oh Celestia lol. That'd be hilarious. If that happened I would not stop laughing....uh I mean SHAME ON YOU FOR SUGGESTING PONY PORN!! lol jk, but I seriously think clopping is wrong, but if that's what you're into.....

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I implore you to look at his latest post, talking about how hasbro gave children gifts in his local area. The fact that he started a counter thread, and then went on to try to show how being bought off means hasbro is the good guy. Either he is trolling at this point, deliberately trying to sound as leftist as possible, or he is extremely enamored with a mega company. And this is not even close to "in-fighting", it is merely a simple argument on the internet.

Horrible political tangent: Wait, how is defending the rights of a company to protect their property "Leftist"? That would be the opposite of "Leftist".

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As far as I can see Hasbro is in its legal right. (You can't really refute it on any fair use grounds because they used SOOO much from the show. And not just characters)

This sucks, like MAJORLY.

Jan was my favorite, and now I'm going to have to tell my sister the bad news once she comes home from her trip out of state.


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Besides that even on the low side, there are enough bronies to make a sales dent in hasbro, and you admitted to pirating episodes of FiM, and then started a counter thread. Either you are a shill, or just a master of bait. Defending any sort of company to the bitter end will only result in your wallet being empty.

 

you admitted to pirating episodes of FiM

 

admitted to pirating

 

...What?

 

 

You know, I've had enough of people defending Jan animations. They knowingly used a character from Hasbro without permission or paying royalties. In fact I think Hasbro should go further and sue the pants off them!

I agree with what Hasbro has done. If someone was ripping off my designs I'd issue a cease and decease order!

I'm sorry but as someone who was planning a career in corporate law, before changing my mind and becoming a teacher instead, I feel very strongly about intellectual property!

I'm sorry, but tough. If you can't afford to participate in the fandom, then you can't afford it. It gives you no right to illegally download/stream videos. ( which is a form of theft, by the way.)

 

...WHAT!?

 

Okay I hate to be that one asshole here but if he's admitted to piracy why is this debate even happening?

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Horrible political tangent: Wait, how is defending the rights of a company to protect their property "Leftist"? That would be the opposite of "Leftist".

He was defending the same way most modern leftists to, we tend to change why we are defending somthing, and then refute our own reasons for the defence.

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At least Hasbro isn't going all Record Industries crazy on them.

 

Jan animations could just make a new video game boy character with Button's personality.

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He was defending the same way most modern leftists to, we tend to change why we are defending somthing, and then refute our own reasons for the defence.

That's not being Leftist, that's being inconsistent. That is pretty far from a left only phenomenon.

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They wouldn't need to. The animation is in the same style of FIM, and uses a cartoon pony. That's all the courts would need to issue a C&D order.

Here's a question though: is that really how it SHOULD be? Is that the kind of world we want to live in? A world where everyone just watches the show, and can't really make cool, inspired things from it in the least?

 

You know that Fan Fiction and Fan Art at all also can be C&D'd. Just period. Is that how things really SHOULD be? For the benefit of anybody?

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That's not being Leftist, that's being inconsistent. That is pretty far from a left only phenomenon.

If you go to tumblr, or watch the public debates the other leftist kids have in colleges, it is a pretty strong attribute of the modern college age democrat.

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As annoying and controversial this might be to everyone else, it was bound to happen unfortunately.

 

He's not the only one, as other pony artist, musicians, and video games have been C&D as well.

 

What bummer to have happened now, but I'm sure he has a plan and idea to pull through.

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At least Hasbro isn't going all Record Industries crazy on them.

 

Jan animations could just make a new video game boy character with Button's personality.

It's not the same. People liked Button Mash, the pony.

I suppose a lot of people could like, but it's just not the same.


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If you go to tumblr, or watch the public debates the other leftist kids have in colleges, it is a pretty strong attribute of the modern college age democrat.

I dunno man, it sounds suspiciously like you have "my side can do no wrong" blinders on.


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I dunno man, it sounds suspiciously like you have "my side can do no wrong" blinders on.

>Is a socialist

>socialism is about as left as you can get

>did not notice the "we" I used in my earlier post

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Jan animations could just make a new video game boy character with Button's personality.

 

Actually, I believe that's what he's going to do.

 

I remember hearing something about an hour ago with ShadyVox saying that they still own Buttons and Button's Mom.

 

But Hasbro owns the style they were drawn in.

 

Therefore, if they redesign Buttons and his Mom, they can continue what they were doing.

 

As long as they don't bring in anymore MLP characters.


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>Is a socialist

>socialism is about as left as you can get

>did not notice the "we" I used in my earlier post

Ah okay, sorry. I see a lot of the whole "if my side believes one thing, then the other side must obviously believe the polar opposite" thing on the net a lot.


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I've actually had my eyes on JanAnimations for a project I'm working on that will be free of any copyright hasbro feels they can throw at me. It is still a pony project, but it's not technically MLP. Shadyvox would be a neat voice actor for it as well plus I'd be happy to create another version of the CmC for them to continue BA if they want.


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So basically you just have to make a pony thing in a better (or just different) style than Hasbro's, change the character design of Button Mash (Hasbro didn't give that brown colt a name), and remove any and all reasonable references to My Little Pony, just so the legal team at Hasbro will be happy.

 

Eh.

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Confirmed for C&D, hasbro has killed button mash, arguably one of the best fan made animations, who is next? Snowdrop? Digibroni? Episode reviews in general? After doublerainboom being C&D'd, along with ask molesta, a large number of overseas plushie manufacturers, it seems hasbro may finally be cracking down on those who use its trade mark.

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The link to Jan's youtube page shows that all pony videos are gone.

 

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0IUXMulZbO1 Update from Shadyvox, the voice of button himself, it is a confirmed C&D, and they will not be continuing any pone related works in the future.

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Double Rainboom wasn't C&D'd; Zachary Rich had written permission from Hasbro to make it. He took it down voluntarily.

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