Most naive of the Mane 6?

[TheMisterManGuy 344]

Who do you think is the most naive pony of the mane? For me, It's a tie between Pinkie and Fluttershy, leaning more towards Flutters. As for the least naive, Applejack, she just doesn't seem like that type of character.

Edited December 1, 2014 by TheMisterManGuy

[Moved to Elsewhere 11,331]

Well, Pinkie is naive in a childlike way and Flutters in naive in a nice way.

 

As for least naive, Twilight and AJ seem the most level - headed.

[Osiria 142]

I don't think any of them is naive....If I had to choose it's probably Dashie....

 

From most naive(relatively) to least

1.Dashie(Not hating but she does many things just to show off)

2.Twi (She's not very mentally stable to me)

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3.Fluttershy (She's just shy)

4.Rarity (Our beloved drama queen)

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5.A.J 

6.Pinkie (She may act silly and do random things but underneath she does all that for a good reason. She pretends to be "naive" to pursue her hedonistic ideal makes her least naive )

Edited December 1, 2014 by Osiria

[Cloud Strife 928]

In my opinion, the most naive is Pinkie Pie. While she does have some wisdom of her own, it's usually the childish brand (which is what naive means - child-like). On the other hand, AJ is the most "adult" of the mane cast, so I would say that she is, therefore, the least naive. Rainbow Dash is pretty genre savvy too, though.

[zaqwert11 70]

well i agree with most of you. i think its either fluttershy or pinky

[Frostgage 7,976]

Pinkie is the most childlike/innocent and is probably the most naive as well.

 

Rarity can also be naive in a way, like when she was overly trusting in Rarity Takes Manhattan.

Edited December 1, 2014 by Frostgage

[Yellow Diamond 7,575]

This is interesting, because arguably each member of the Mane Six started off with different forms of naiveté: Twilight literally lived in an ivory tower, surrounded by books; Rainbow Dash idolized the Wonder Bolts to a fault; Rarity was infatuated with Prince Blueblood, convinced she might marry him in spite of never having met him; Applejack assumed she could accomplish most any task on her own, if required; Pinkie could be myopic in her pursuit of making ponies happy; and Fluttershy could be so trustworthy that others were able to manipulate or boss her into doing their bidding (e.g., Angel Bunny).

 

Since their introduction, the Mane Six have collectively and individually gained a greater appreciation for the world around them without losing their essential innocence. Twilight and AJ are probably now the two most worldly ponies of the group -- or at least demonstrate consistent level-headed behavior.

 

Rainbow is probably the most naive, if only because she retains the tendency to apply her experience in a limited capacity. She isn't as headstrong and arrogant as she was in Season 1, but she's still immature.

 

Fluttershy is innocent -- a term listed as synonymous with naive -- but she's demonstrated growth in terms of self-awareness. She no longer oscillates wildly between being exceedingly demure and borderline violent rage. She used that awareness and self-control to help reform Discord. Despite how much slack she gave him relative to the rest of her friends, she wasn't oblivious to his mischievous nature.

 

I'm not sold on Pinkie being the most naive. The problem I find with her at the moment is that the writers haven't consistently portrayed her: in one episode, Pinkie can be free spirit but very attuned to the needs of others (e.g., "Maud Pie"); in the next episode, she spouts off nonsense and is generally unhelpful (e.g., "Filli Vanilli"). I consider Pinkie's wild swings the mark of uneven writing rather than naiveté.

[Ianpiersonjdavis 513]

Up until the halfway mark of "Keep Calm and Flutter On" I would have said Fluttershy, but then the second half of the episode happened and I began to think that I may have been wrong with that assumption.

 

Now I would have to say Pinkie Pie with her child-like behavior in a lot of episodes.

 

As for least naive, I would have to say Rainbow Dash as she has been suspicious of characters whenever they are lying-even with other characters are oblivious to it, like in 'Sweet and Elite' and called Discord out on his plan in 'Keep Calm and Flutter On'. 

[Haruhi-chan 486]

I think they are all naive in their own way, like what others have said above. However, a lot of times they end up helping each other in the end, so it's hard to say who's really the most naive.

[Soobel 488]

Pinkie??? No-no-no!

Remember Cranky Doodle episode, where she shows, how she does her shows and jokes. Actually are she very wise - clown are not stupid.

Dash is pony, who first does and later thinks.

[Osiria 142]

This is interesting, because arguably each member of the Mane Six started off with different forms of naiveté: Twilight literally lived in an ivory tower, surrounded by books; Rainbow Dash idolized the Wonder Bolts to a fault; Rarity was infatuated with Prince Blueblood, convinced she might marry him in spite of never having met him; Applejack assumed she could accomplish most any task on her own, if required; Pinkie could be myopic in her pursuit of making ponies happy; and Fluttershy could be so trustworthy that others were able to manipulate or boss her into doing their bidding (e.g., Angel Bunny).

 

Since their introduction, the Mane Six have collectively and individually gained a greater appreciation for the world around them without losing their essential innocence. Twilight and AJ are probably now the two most worldly ponies of the group -- or at least demonstrate consistent level-headed behavior.

 

Rainbow is probably the most naive, if only because she retains the tendency to apply her experience in a limited capacity. She isn't as headstrong and arrogant as she was in Season 1, but she's still immature.

 

Fluttershy is innocent -- a term listed as synonymous with naive -- but she's demonstrated growth in terms of self-awareness. She no longer oscillates wildly between being exceedingly demure and borderline violent rage. She used that awareness and self-control to help reform Discord. Despite how much slack she gave him relative to the rest of her friends, she wasn't oblivious to his mischievous nature.

 

I'm not sold on Pinkie being the most naive. The problem I find with her at the moment is that the writers haven't consistently portrayed her: in one episode, Pinkie can be free spirit but very attuned to the needs of others (e.g., "Maud Pie"); in the next episode, she spouts off nonsense and is generally unhelpful (e.g., "Filli Vanilli"). I consider Pinkie's wild swings the mark of uneven writing rather than naiveté.

Nailed it!

 

 

Although I think it's still argueable if Pinkie was really "spouts off nonsense and is generally unhelpful (e.g., "Filli Vanilli")",  mostly this is what I meant to say! 

[Vemillia Nightshade 2,247]

Well, Pinkie is naive in a childlike way and Flutters in naive in a nice way.

 

As for least naive, Twilight and AJ seem the most level - headed.

 

Honestly, I agree with you though Dash fits also in the naive category most times because how cocky she is.

[Osiria 142]

This is interesting, because arguably each member of the Mane Six started off with different forms of naiveté: Twilight literally lived in an ivory tower, surrounded by books; Rainbow Dash idolized the Wonder Bolts to a fault; Rarity was infatuated with Prince Blueblood, convinced she might marry him in spite of never having met him; Applejack assumed she could accomplish most any task on her own, if required; Pinkie could be myopic in her pursuit of making ponies happy; and Fluttershy could be so trustworthy that others were able to manipulate or boss her into doing their bidding (e.g., Angel Bunny).

 

Since their introduction, the Mane Six have collectively and individually gained a greater appreciation for the world around them without losing their essential innocence. Twilight and AJ are probably now the two most worldly ponies of the group -- or at least demonstrate consistent level-headed behavior.

 

Rainbow is probably the most naive, if only because she retains the tendency to apply her experience in a limited capacity. She isn't as headstrong and arrogant as she was in Season 1, but she's still immature.

 

Fluttershy is innocent -- a term listed as synonymous with naive -- but she's demonstrated growth in terms of self-awareness. She no longer oscillates wildly between being exceedingly demure and borderline violent rage. She used that awareness and self-control to help reform Discord. Despite how much slack she gave him relative to the rest of her friends, she wasn't oblivious to his mischievous nature.

 

I'm not sold on Pinkie being the most naive. The problem I find with her at the moment is that the writers haven't consistently portrayed her: in one episode, Pinkie can be free spirit but very attuned to the needs of others (e.g., "Maud Pie"); in the next episode, she spouts off nonsense and is generally unhelpful (e.g., "Filli Vanilli"). I consider Pinkie's wild swings the mark of uneven writing rather than naiveté.

Nailed it!

 

 

Although I think it's still argueable if Pinkie was really "spouts off nonsense and is generally unhelpful (e.g., "Filli Vanilli")" :okiedokielokie: ,  mostly this is what I meant to say!

 

Pinkie??? No-no-no!

Remember Cranky Doodle episode, where she shows, how she does her shows and jokes. Actually are she very wise - clown are not stupid.

Dash is pony, who first does and later thinks.

Brohoofed!

[Ashen Pathfinder 16,162]

This is interesting, because arguably each member of the Mane Six started off with different forms of naiveté: Twilight literally lived in an ivory tower, surrounded by books; Rainbow Dash idolized the Wonder Bolts to a fault; Rarity was infatuated with Prince Blueblood, convinced she might marry him in spite of never having met him; Applejack assumed she could accomplish most any task on her own, if required; Pinkie could be myopic in her pursuit of making ponies happy; and Fluttershy could be so trustworthy that others were able to manipulate or boss her into doing their bidding (e.g., Angel Bunny).

 

Since their introduction, the Mane Six have collectively and individually gained a greater appreciation for the world around them without losing their essential innocence. Twilight and AJ are probably now the two most worldly ponies of the group -- or at least demonstrate consistent level-headed behavior.

 

Rainbow is probably the most naive, if only because she retains the tendency to apply her experience in a limited capacity. She isn't as headstrong and arrogant as she was in Season 1, but she's still immature.

 

Fluttershy is innocent -- a term listed as synonymous with naive -- but she's demonstrated growth in terms of self-awareness. She no longer oscillates wildly between being exceedingly demure and borderline violent rage. She used that awareness and self-control to help reform Discord. Despite how much slack she gave him relative to the rest of her friends, she wasn't oblivious to his mischievous nature.

 

I'm not sold on Pinkie being the most naive. The problem I find with her at the moment is that the writers haven't consistently portrayed her: in one episode, Pinkie can be free spirit but very attuned to the needs of others (e.g., "Maud Pie"); in the next episode, she spouts off nonsense and is generally unhelpful (e.g., "Filli Vanilli"). I consider Pinkie's wild swings the mark of uneven writing rather than naiveté.

 

Absolutely SPOT ON!

 

One of the best qualities of the show is that we witness each character grow and mature in their own way. Through each season they've had to deal some sort of adveristy and have shown that they can indeed grow & learn.

 

I honestly can't add anything more. Well said!

[Soobel 488]

...and Applejack is calmest of them, Twily is wiser.

[Yellow Diamond 7,575]

Nailed it!

 

 

Although I think it's still argueable if Pinkie was really "spouts off nonsense and is generally unhelpful (e.g., "Filli Vanilli")",  mostly this is what I meant to say! 

 

Well, Pinkie did spend much of that episode unintentionally yet repeatedly compounding Fluttershy's self-doubts, even when it was clear the commentary wasn't making things better.

 

Trust me -- I really, really like Pinkie Pie. But it seems to me she's been all over the place in terms of characterization for some time now.

[Steel Accord 6,660]

Well, what defines naiveté? Twilight, far and away the most intelligent of the Six, didn't know how to interact with others. While Pinkie, not the most classically schooled of them, often picks up on subtle things that others would miss.

 

So rather than say which is the most naive, I'll simply go through each and what areas they are lacking and may very well have improved on.

 

Twilight: General social naiveté.

 

Rarity: Lack of foresight.

 

Pinkie: Lack of communication skills.

 

Rainbow Dash: Emotional immaturity.

 

Applejack: Unorthodox and "outside the box" naiveté.

 

Fluttershy: . . . Actually I can't think of one for her. She's not really lacking in knowledge of awareness of anything in particular, including her own shortcomings. So I guess while none of them could be described to be totally naive, it's actually Fluttershy who's the least so by my account. Who'd a thunk it? 

 

 

[Osiria 142]

Well, Pinkie did spend much of that episode unintentionally yet repeatedly compounding Fluttershy's self-doubts, even when it was clear the commentary wasn't making things better.

 

Trust me -- I really, really like Pinkie Pie. But it seems to me she's been all over the place in terms of characterization for some time now.

 I wrote something in another thread about this matter, I'll just copy some of it(http://mlpforums.com/topic/115675-out-of-all-ponies-in-equestria-who-understands-pinkie-the-most/page-2#entry3295771),

 

"I once was sure that Pinkie was understandable, until I found many failed to understand her.

 

They argue Pinkie is sometimes acting OOC (IMO she never does).

An often-mentioned example is "The 'Spike’s a ghost' line" in The Mysterious Mare Do Well (Some guy even wrote an article about this: http://www.roundstab...aracterization/)

He wrote "we know that Pinkie is familiar with Spike and knows full well that he is not a ghost. The line deteriorates Pinkie’s complexity not at the expense of empathy, but intelligence. "

 

Clearly, Pinkie was bored listening to Dashie's brag (at least it did't thrill Twi, A.J or Rarity) and decided to act silly and scared so she could have an excuse to leave early without upsetting Dashie. Or she was simply trying to have fun or making ponies laugh like she did in Luna Eclipsed (Luna Eclipsed is prior to The Mysterious Mare Do Well).

 

Is that hard to understand? Maybe it is, maybe some people just don't want to try to understand because they already made up their mind. "

 

 

I think there's no right or wrong, some people like Pinkie but don't like something Pinkie said or did, so they would argue it's bad writing

I just happened to love everything about Pinkie.....

 

But let's just agree to disagree because Pinkie wouldn't care even others think she is "naive" as long as she makes everypony happy.... and it's kinda off-topic

[Pastel 7,630]

Most naive: Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy

Least naive: Pinkie Pie (I totally agree with those who said she isn't ) and Twilight Sparkle

 

I think Applejack is a bit more naive than one may think.

[CC_Maud_Pie 6,431]

Most naive: Pinkie Pie: She's too happy party-filled and doesn't have much experience on the tough and boring side of life compared to the rest of the Mane 6.

 

Least naive: Twilight Sparkle: She's had lots of experience on a higher level by learning from Princess Celestia and gives everypony a chance before making a judgement.

Edited January 6, 2015 by CC_Maud_Pie

[Nature's Spell 526]

If you go with the definition:

 

having or showing a lack of experience or knowledge : innocent or simple

 

 

I'm not sure any of them really fit that, however, I would agree with those that say they've all been guilty of being naive at certain times. We all are.

Edited January 6, 2015 by Nature's Spell

[Gary S. 102]

this totally reminds me of this

 

 

lol

[Soobel 488]

Most naive: Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy

Least naive: Pinkie Pie (I totally agree with those who said she isn't ) and Twilight Sparkle

 

I think Applejack is a bit more naive than one may think.

About Fluttershy im not sure - she is shy and quiet and nopony knows, what she have inside.

 

Pinkie or Twily - too not sure: Pinkie are wise and have strong intuition and very fast cerebation. Twily have many knowledges, but she have them more than she can use and that brakes her mind.

Edited January 6, 2015 by Soobel

[Poetic Stone 1,041]

Going to have to go with fluttershy on this one guys, and I agree applejack and twilight are the most level headed of them all.

[Alleviate 342]

Pinks or Dash. Both of them display very childlike manners, both in foolhardiness, and general behaviour, therefore, I deem them to be the most childlike in mind, and therefore the most naive. 

 

Flutters has shown adultish understanding of her own, and others', actions, as has Twilight. And AJ and Rarity run their own businesses, so they're pretty solid in that aspect. 

 

So, in terms of naivety, form most to least:

 

Pinkie Pie /Rainbow Dash

Twilight (she's been sheltered)

Fluttershy (she hopes for the best in everyone)

AJ/Rarity