Reasons not to like MLP + Fanbase

[Titan Rising 2,156]

I see plenty of threads all the time praising the show and its fans so this is gonna be a little different. This threads all about the things you don't like about the show and fanbase, where you think it could improve, and reasons why you believe other people would be... less inclined... to watch it or call themselves a fan.

 

I'll start:

 

The show:

-I don't like how it's supposedly a cartoon for everyone but males horses are largely excluded. Obviously I'm not saying there needs to be a male character, but at least maybe some more male interaction here and there.

-I don't particularly care for Rarity but I don't think she's been given enough opportunities to properly show her generosity, the same goes for Rainbow Dash's loyalty and Applejacks honesty

-I feel it's a bit inconsistent when it comes to Rainbow Dash's speed but it's a cartoon so whatever

 

 

The fanbase:

-"Rule 34" and any sexualization of the characters

-The word brony, I dunno I just don't like it

-The "brony" community tends to label every fim fan as a brony

-"Bronies" can be extremely extreme with their dedication to the show that it comes off as creepy

-I don't like or understand the whole "love and tolerate" thing, as if loving and tolerating are even really messages the show tries to deliver. I actually feel like its fueling the "politically correct" fire more than anything

Edited July 12, 2012 by Hollowshield

[spas-ticShotty 3,582]

Mah biggest problem; the show isn't as funny as I'd like it to be. I guees it's because I'm used to watching a ton of South Park/Family Guy/Team America/etc., and My Little Pony CANNOT go into that type of demograph

[Bbplsloveme 42]

*gasp* HOW DARE YOU FIND FLAWS IN MY LITTLE PONY!?

[Bohtty 1,775]

You should definitely add how the show isn't perfect. This really irritates me because everything else in my life is perfect, you know? I agree with your comment on the loving and tolerating thing. I believe it should be changed to "hating and ridiculing".

 

I think overall, the community could improve by expecting more out of their girl children's cartoons because I don't think the show is hitting enough of those key political issues.

[Love4discord18 269]

My biggest problem is all the guys that like the show, that's where all the creepy pony porn comes from. Someone actually asked Zone-sama, the greatest porn video maker on newgrounds, to make pony porn, and she flipped out on the whole community xD That's really my only problem, we need to get more female fans to balance everything out. And more male ponies in the show.

[Titan Rising 2,156]

Mah biggest problem; the show isn't as funny as I'd like it to be. I guees it's because I'm used to watching a ton of South Park/Family Guy/Team America/etc., and My Little Pony CANNOT go into that type of demograph

 

I get what you're saying but I'm the opposite haha. I think it's hilarious, it's reminiscent to the humor in powerpuff girls and fosters home (big surprise) which I actually prefer over shows like family guy and futurama

 

You should definitely add how the show isn't perfect. This really irritates me because everything else in my life is perfect, you know? I agree with your comment on the loving and tolerating thing. I believe it should be changed to "hating and ridiculing".

 

I think overall, the community could improve by expecting more out of their girl children's cartoons because I don't think the show is hitting enough of those key political issues.

 

I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say with this

Edited July 12, 2012 by Hollowshield

[Legendary Emerald 622]

I'm a pretty big brony, but that doesn't mean there aren't aspects of the show and fandom that disappoint me.

 

The show:

 

- Needs moar Applejack.

- Cutie Mark Crusaders have a lot of episodes that fail to deliver.

- Show can't decide on the level of technology in Equestria.

 

The fanbase:

 

- Needs to learn to ignore the aspects of the fandom they don't care for (such as the rule 34).

- Needs to stop caring how "bronies" are seen by other people.

- Needs to stop outright insulting brony artists and musicians who work their hardest to deliver free art and music to the fandom.

- Some people act as if liking ponies is a religion, where everyone should act and think the same; this hive-mind mentality is dangerous.

- Love and tolerance is a good ideal, but there are limits. Once an act infringes upon the rights of others, it can no longer be loved or tolerated.

- Not everything under the sun is related to ponies; if you thought the Meet the Pyro update was a shout-out to bronies and argued in youtube comments to defend that position, you deserve to be shot-out of a cannon.

Edited July 12, 2012 by Legendary Emerald

[letterone 1,203]

You should definitely add how the show isn't perfect.

 

That is absolutely true. There are quite a lot of flaws in the show. The animation is kinda lazy sometimes and they always reuse character models for different characters.

 

Also, it's made by Hasbro, the second most greedy company in the U.S. The first is Disney.

[ScottishUnicorn 284]

The fans can be really annoying, and flip their shit over everything. Not all the fans are like that, but a lot of the very vocal ones are like that.

[Skullbuster 1,906]

i honestly dont see anything wrong with the community, all the R34 stuff is a small percent of the community, and i dont see how anyone could hate the idea of love and tolerance, its an extreamly good philosophy live by

 

we shouldnt look down on members of the community just because of the stuff they make, as long as they are fans we should accept them for who they are

[MachineGunLola 408]

The show:

 

I don't think there's anything wrong with the show..

 

The fanbase:

 

It's mostly made up of ADULT MALES;

R34 of ponies is just... wrong.

They get crazy and angry when you insult anything about mlp or the fanbase.

[Titan Rising 2,156]

- Needs moar Applejack.

 

I can agree with this!

 

- Needs to learn to ignore the aspects of the fandom they don't care for (such as the rule 34).

- Needs to stop outright insulting brony artists and musicians who work their hardest to deliver free art and music to the fandom.

 

I hope these aren't in response to my post, but just in case it came off that way:

-I'm fully capable of ignoring parts of the fandom I don't care for, except when you know it shows up on forums that are meant to be family friendly and in my youtube suggestion bar where kids are going to easily see it

-I wasn't referring to people who simply like to draw or make fan music in my post

[Colon Leftbracket 971]

The only pet peeve I have with the fandom is how extreme they tend to be.

I just wish everyone would get that the show is NOT for everyone and not everyone is gonna like it.

 

I also don't like how some Bronies tend to bash the "clopper" and "grimdark" parts of the fandom. Virtually EVERY fandom has those.

I personally find them hilarious.

 

Also MLPFIM is not the best show ever. It isn't even the best cartoon ever. Not even in my top 10 for overall quality. In my honest opinion it is well above average and is probably the best modern cartoon around at the moment, though shows like Adventure Time, Dan VS, and the new Gravity Falls are pretty close.

[Legendary Emerald 622]

I hope these aren't in response to my post, but just in case it came off that way:

-I'm fully capable of ignoring parts of the fandom I don't care for, except when you know it shows up on forums that are meant to be family friendly and in my youtube suggestion bar where kids are going to easily see it

 

I wasn't responding to your post. And I do agree with what you say about the questionable content being visible to so many people who may not be looking for it. But that's a different issue entirely from what I was talking about.

 

I believe it should be changed to "hating and ridiculing".

 

Edit: Ah, I see what you were saying in your post now. Took me a few reads. I'm slow like that, lol.

 

The problem with love and tolerance, as I said before, is that it has it's limits. The slaughtering of children should never be tolerated or loved, for example. But should republicans, democrats, communists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, etc. all have their beliefs tolerated? Of course, provided their actions are not destructive and do not restrict the freedoms of others. The "love" aspect of the phrase is a bit redundant, because one of the most loving things you can do for someone is to tolerate and attempt to understand them.

 

Hating and ridiculing would be a horrible thing for anyone to practice in their day-to-day life, though. Hatred begets more hatred, which leads to general unpleasantness all around. And while it is true that you are more likely to change someone's opinion by ridiculing them than by pointing out the errors in their way of thinking, ridicule is still a dirty and hateful practice. We should strive to back as far away from these actions as we possibly can, although there will probably always be times when they are necessary.

 

In a perfect world, no one would need to fight back, because there would be no one to throw the first punch. But that punch was thrown long ago. Now all we can do is try to heal each other's wounds, and do our best to not let old hatreds and destructive tendencies rise up again.

Edited July 12, 2012 by Legendary Emerald

[Princess_Molestia 1,460]

the fanbase can be very...obsessive... and I have been lucky to have only met the good, level headed ones

don't care if its all men, BJD's are all women, balances out my social interaction just fine lol

I don't like to be told that I need to love and tolerate anything because I watch a show about magical ponies, I was under the impression I was supposed to watch TV to be entertained and unwind, have a few laughs, not learn life lessions and such.

if I wanted religious-esque mantra's I'd just go be part of a religion

but I don't, so I am not going to

all I ever wanted to do was watch a TV show that didn't suck pony shit and brush and display some adorable figurines...and at cons talk to some people who don't scare me

not convert a bunch of people and defend a TV show from everyone who says they hate it, hate the fanbase or just don't get the appeal

[Boxxi The Brony 119]

My problem is how my friends look at me looking at these forums, then say, you know I am a Brony (I know I they have never seen an episode) I said name 4 ponies, he said um, well, um, um, steve.

[Jokuc 8,172]

The only thing I can think of is how many of us are like "MLP RULES! It's the best thing ever!" People overreact. It's not the best thing ever. To be honest, I don't think "brony 4 life" will work.

[~Lawful Jordo~ 2,064]

I just hate how some bronies shove ponies down other people's throats. That's where the fandom gets most of its hate from; from bronies who don't know how to shut the F*ck up.

 

I am a huge brony myself, but I don't parade it around like a religion

[Elric 42]

The only thing that really bothers me are some aspects of the fandom.

 

Like the die-hard fans that think it is the best show ever created.

 

Or the Sexualization of the characters.

 

This is usually what makes other people outside of the fandom keep way from MLP.

[Pinkazoid 3,493]

Well

 

- Rule 34

censored for sweraing....and I don't like showing caps lock....

 

DEAR GAWD THIS IS THE FUCKING INTERNET, SERIOUSLY, THERE'S RULE 34 OF EVERYTHING, THAT'S WHAT THE RULE MEANS. MLP ISN'T EVEN THE ONE THAT HAS THE MOST RULE 34 MADE.... this is something that everyone who hates MLP because of cloppers should know

 

Still, I know that you don't mean the cloppers in general, since, I know a few that can be pretty annoying

>if you like it it's fine

>if your friends approve of it, it's still fine

>if you keep showing it around, keep saying that it's okay because many other's do it, and annoyingly post it everywhere is just intolerable.

 

-Shoving it in people's throats

Okay, many do it, it's not something you can just simply ignore in the fanbase, many bronies have the tendency to think the show is better than anything else, and say that MLP can beat anything, and bringng up things about how we are the best fanbase etc.

Edited July 12, 2012 by Q. Pinkazoid The Bearded

[~Lawful Jordo~ 2,064]

Also, one point on Rule 34. While I personally don't enjoy the sexualization of the characters I don't care if others do. The one thing I hate is how people blame Bronies for rule 34 witch is bull.

 

Literally every fandom in existence has rule 34, some fandoms have it even more than MLP. Rule 34 isn't something bronies are responsible for, period.

 

As long as the internet and fandoms exist rule 34 will be around. We just have to deal with that or get the hell off the internet.

Edited July 12, 2012 by Eljordo

[Tuxedo Kamen! 114]

I have so many mixed emotions on everything said, but overall, I would be on the defense on this thread. That being said, the only big issues come from the fandom, instead of the show. It's really awesome how diverse the art can be, but there is this assumption that all bronies are extremists and are into the more adult content. To me, it's a kids show. The fans can fanboy all they want, just keep in mind that some of us have other concerns in our lives, and some of us dont like R34 images

 

 

On another note, brony in a lame name, I wish I could use something like Pegasister instead

Edited July 12, 2012 by Derpy Paws ^.^

[Titan Rising 2,156]

Also, one point on Rule 34. While I personally don't enjoy the sexualization of the characters I don't care if others do. The one thing I hate is how people blame Bronies for rule 34 witch is bull.

 

Literally every fandom in existence has rule 34, some fandoms have it even more than MLP. Rule 34 isn't something bronies are responsible for, period.

I actually do care if people sexualize the characters for themselves, I think it's an absolutely terrible thing to do to the integrity of the characters and I also think it has a bad psychological effect on people who subject themselves to that kind of behavior - but that's another story. The difference is that I don't feel as if I have any right to stop them.

 

I think that's why this whole "love and tolerate" thing bothers me too. I don't think anyone should necessarily tolerate this kind of behavior in every sense of the word. I mean I won't stop anyone from creating or looking at the stuff but I'm not gonna sit here and say it's a perfectly natural thing to do and act like It's wrong to suggest a higher moral standard exists. Well that's just how I feel on the issue.

 

And yeah it's wrong to blame the fans of the show for this kind of stuff, but it has become so prevalent now that I can't really blame anyone for feeling that most of the shows fans feel that way. I even had thoughts like that at first because some of the first mlp stuff I encountered was like twilight and trixie kissing

 

/end rant. I think that's enough on that topic for this thread from me

 

Also Derpy Paws you have an awesome name

Edited July 12, 2012 by Hollowshield

[~Lawful Jordo~ 2,064]

I actually do care if people sexualize the characters for themselves, I think it's an absolutely terrible thing to do to the integrity of the characters and I also think it has a bad psychological effect on people who subject themselves to that kind of behavior - but that's another story. The difference is that I don't feel as if I have any right to stop them.

 

I think that's why this whole "love and tolerate" thing bothers me too. I don't think anyone should necessarily tolerate this kind of behavior in every sense of the word. I mean I won't stop anyone from creating or looking at the stuff but I'm not gonna sit here and say it's a perfectly natural thing to do and that It's wrong to suggest a higher moral standard exists. Well that's just how I feel on the issue.

 

But that's another issue altogether. They aren't really hurting anyone (Except for maybe if children saw the images, but that argument could be used against porn in general. I have debated the 'Harmful to children' issue a million times.), so are they really wrong for going against your personal moral code?

 

I, like you, dislike the sexualization of the characters, but I think that people who do have every right to. It's they're business what they wish to subject themselves to.

 

I also think that the love and tolerate thing should have a limit. If someone is doing something that causes serious harm, we should not put up with it. Although if we hate something that is, for the most part harmless, then it's none of our business if other people like it.

Edited July 12, 2012 by Eljordo

[One 498]

Cloppers and rule 34,

also on the "love and tolerate" thing:

I think that I should just write a huge paragraph for a dramatic effect, or maybe not...I choose not, because im to lazy...