Things You Dislike About the MLP Fandom

[DusK 1,264]

I agree with the cloppers, I mean come on, in my opinion, Clopping is just one step closer to beastiality, which is ILLEGAL and for good reason!!

 

Actually, in your home country of Australia, beastiality is legal in Ashmore and Cartier Islands, Australian Antarctic Territory, Christmas Island, Cocos (Keeling) Islands, Coral Sea Islands, Heard Island and McDonald Islands, Jervis Bay Territory, and Norfolk Island.

 

Here in the U.S., bestiality is legal in 17 states, as well as Washington D.C.

 

 

As for defining clopping as bestiality or close to it, that's where it gets kinda sketchy. When you take into account that the ponies in MLP actually have more in common with your typical human than a horse, and their humanizing qualities is what causes people to become cloppers, it makes a lot more sense from a psychological standpoint.

[Chain Combo 135]

31 pages huh, well everything I could think of was probably already said multiple times over. I'll say it anyway 

I don't like the people who force the show down your neck(duh)

I don't like how some fans get so carried away with background ponies, they ignore the rest of the show (Derpy says hi)

Edited August 12, 2013 by SkullCrusherX

[Buttonmash1973 1,026]

As mentionebd before Friendship is Magic showed down your troat. There are so many other cartoons and CGI Blockbusters nowadays.

[PunkVinyl 13]

I think it's really the people that shove the show down other's throats that really bugs me. I mean, even though I love MLP, I don't try to shove it down my friends throats that don't watch it. It really doesn't matter to me if they watch it or not. I'm not going to look back on my life on my deathbed and cringe because I didn't convert one of my friends to MLP. Just, no.

 

The treating the show/fandom like a religion is also slightly disturbing.

[GreyScholar 1,584]

So many fans insistence on making Celestia a villain and/or a tyrant, on creating division between the royal sisters, more importantly the Solar Empire and Lunar Republic, that there must be something wrong with the way things are being run and it needs to be changed, that there's no way Celestia could have been able to rule for 1000 years without something underhanded going on, that Celestia was in the wrong for banishing Nightmare Moon, that poor Luna just wanted appreciation, and meany Celestia wouldn't let her, that Luna hadn't done anything wrong and that eternal night wouldn't have hurt any pony... when in truth eternal night would have brought about cold and starvation.

 

Princess Luna is my favorite out of the two sisters yet because the fandom I find myself defending Princess Celestia far more often.

Edited August 12, 2013 by EquestrianScholar

[Ampharos 1,009]

Oh don't even get me started on people who bash on Applejack. I also hate the bronies who like RD and make a gigantic deal out of it. Or the RD fans that make it like RD is supreme and better than everything. So basically all the idiotic RD fans. Not the ones that are normal, just the idiotic ones. I also don't like the people who bash on cloppers. I'm not a clopper, but since people who do it don't effect me in anyway, I don't care.

[Dog man 48]

Things I Dislike about the fandom would be:

 

People Who are all up in your faces about Ponies!

 

Well I don't mind Shipping or Cloppers but It does give off negative things about the fandom, But Hey! If ya Wanna Clop, You'll wanna clop! I wont judge you and I hope everyone here won't either! Everyone has their things which they find attractive. Same with R34, But There are times when its taken too far... oh yeah, Whats GrimDark?

Edited August 12, 2013 by Nye1254

[Exuro Spark 5]

Oh don't even get me started on people who bash on Applejack. I also hate the bronies who like RD and make a gigantic deal out of it. Or the RD fans that make it like RD is supreme and better than everything. So basically all the idiotic RD fans. Not the ones that are normal, just the idiotic ones. I also don't like the people who bash on cloppers. I'm not a clopper, but since people who do it don't effect me in anyway, I don't care.

I think that could be said about any of the bronies who are fanatical about any one pony, and not just RD. Although, I see it happen with RD more than any other pony (at least out of the non-background ponies).

[Ampharos 1,009]

I think that could be said about any of the bronies who are fanatical about any one pony, and not just RD. Although, I see it happen with RD more than any other pony (at least out of the non-background ponies).

 

Yea that's what I meant. There is a mass majority of bronies who like Rainbow Dash, and many of them are completely obsessed with her, and it's annoying. I also don't see it happen as much with other ponies.

[Gabriel Smith 53]

I think at this point the shorter answer would be asking me what exactly I like about the Fandom. However, since that isn't the question -

 

• The Show - it says a lot when choosing to willingly ignore it except for anything news worthy actually improved some otherwise dire relationships with the fandom as a whole.
• Reception of Criticism or Commentary - If you have something bad to say about the show (like I just did and am doing right now), the Bronies will attack you like a shoal of vicious piranhas. Infact I expect a lot of bile after writing this.
• Fandom whining - Every time and every season there has been one major mass whinging that nobody ever shuts up about, from Derpygate to the run up towards the Wedding to the most recent (of time of writing) with the Princess Alicorn Twilight thing. Congratulations Bronies, you make Sonic, Command & Conquer and Warhammer 40,000 fans look sane by comparison. Nobody - but nobody - is more loud and obnoxious about this than the Brony fandom right now.
• Creator Worship - This honestly makes me hit my head against a wall every time I see it. This isn't a religion guys, you can calm down now.
• Headcanon and Fanon as Canon - Everyone has headcanon. Even I have Headcanon. However, MLP is actually pretty vague about what is and is not Canon. We know that Tartarus exists, yet most people assume it is Pony Hell. If they're going by actual greek mythology (and given this was the show that introduced the world to an Ahuizotl I prefer to think they were going for this), it's a prison for the Titans, the Primordial Gods who preceded the Olympian Pantheon of Greek Mythology. This is also why I think the Equestria World RP section is a horrendous idea.
• Fan Terminology - Finally, we get to my big bugbear, and this goes back to the above comments on Tartarus. Alicorn. It's a misnomer - Alicorn is in fact the theoretical substance that a Unicorn's Horn is made of. Technically the correct Mythological Name (as boring as it sounds) would be Winged Unicorn. If that is too bland, then there already existed two pre-existing fandom nicknames - Pegicorn and Unipeg (I personally prefer Pegicorn) which worked perfectly fine. Canonising it only makes things worse. There are more, but I've gone on long enough.

[Dsanders 5,747]

Usually more things that annoy me rather than what I dislike.

 

Probably a really annoying thing about the fandom is its general tendency to overact and make a huge commotion about almost any details regarding the show. The bigger the deal, the worse. Twilicorn for example. It's kind of hilarious at times though, seeing the commotions go on the chats, YouTube comments, etc, but seriously, I'm sure we can tone it down just a little bit...at least a little bit. lol

 

And the fandom's reactions to criticism. Jesus...it's an amazing show about Ponies, it's not the only way to live! lol

 

But what I really dislike is just some of the disturbing stuff some of the fans can come up with. The grimdark fanfics(it's kind of a love/hate for me. It depends on how well they're written.), incest shipping, and r34 of those poor, innocent and adorable ponies. 

 

If your into that stuff, then you know what...I won't hate you. Just keep it to yourself, k?

[GreyScholar 1,584]

Alicorn. It's a misnomer - Alicorn is in fact the theoretical substance that a Unicorn's Horn is made of. Technically the correct Mythological Name (as boring as it sounds) would be Winged Unicorn. If that is too bland, then there already existed two pre-existing fandom nicknames - Pegicorn and Unipeg (I personally prefer Pegicorn) which worked perfectly fine. Canonising it only makes things worse. There are more, but I've gone on long enough.

Actually that is not completely true: Alicorn is also portmanteau of the French words for wing (aile) and horn (corne). Note that in French, the word for unicorn is also licorne.

 

A Portmanteau word is a combination of two (or more) words or morphemes, and their definitions, into one new word.

 

However, yes one needs to be careful with this usage because the word alicorn now much more commonly does also refers to the horn of a unicorn itself.

 

Also winged unicorn would not fit, at least not for the royal sisters as they're supposed to represent all three races combined. Winged unicorn leaves out the earth ponies... and to a lesser extent pegasus and putting the focus very much on to the unicorns

Edited August 12, 2013 by EquestrianScholar

[)O( Scarlet )O( 1,259]

 

Actually, in your home country of Australia, beastiality is legal in Ashmore and Cartier Islands, Australian Antarctic Territory, Christmas Island, Cocos (Keeling) Islands, Coral Sea Islands, Heard Island and McDonald Islands, Jervis Bay Territory, and Norfolk Island.

 

Here in the U.S., bestiality is legal in 17 states, as well as Washington D.C.

 

 

As for defining clopping as bestiality or close to it, that's where it gets kinda sketchy. When you take into account that the ponies in MLP actually have more in common with your typical human than a horse, and their humanizing qualities is what causes people to become cloppers, it makes a lot more sense from a psychological standpoint.

 

Oh wow, you learn something new every day, and yes when you put it in that light, I guess you are right about that. How-ever I still stand by that I dislike it, and in my opinion (however unpopular it may be) it is still pretty wrong.

Edited August 13, 2013 by Swift Quill

[Taviscratch 453]

No, no it isn't. It's about knowing the difference between heathly skepticism and close mindedness. Twilight wasn't denying something she was just told to believe, she was denying something she saw right in front of her face because she couldn't understand how it worked. She was in denial because it challenged her world view.    

That's against everything that scientific curiosity and critical thinking stands for. Pinkie's tail happened to twitch as an object fell on somepony's head. This does not automatically mean that one causes the other. It could simply be a coincidence or there could be a correlation without causality. For instance, ice cream sales and the frequency of murders are directly proportional in the US (they actually are). Does this mean that one causes the other? No! There is a correlation without causality. I have to agree that Feeling Pinkie Keen appears to send the message that some things must be believed regardless of whether there is evidence or not. Teaching superstitious reasoning to a child is one of the worst possible actions an adult can take and is a form of child abuse.

[Exuro Spark 5]

I feel this needs to be said: People are reading too much into the message of "Feeling Pinkie Keen." It's a kid's show people, calm down.

[Taviscratch 453]

I feel this needs to be said: People are reading too much into the message of "Feeling Pinkie Keen." It's a kid's show people, calm down.

That's what makes it so bad. Sure, Twilight doesn't write "Dear Princess Celestia, today I learned to stop questioning the world and to suppress my scientific curiosity, replacing it with superstition" but the message is pretty clear. MLP is an American show and 85% of Americans believe in God but that doesn't mean that morals brimming with religious undertones should be aired on TV to 6 year old girls.

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

That's against everything that scientific curiosity and critical thinking stands for. Pinkie's tail happened to twitch as an object fell on somepony's head. This does not automatically mean that one causes the other. It could simply be a coincidence or there could be a correlation without causality. For instance, ice cream sales and the frequency of murders are directly proportional in the US (they actually are). Does this mean that one causes the other? No! There is a correlation without causality. I have to agree that Feeling Pinkie Keen appears to send the message that some things must be believed regardless of whether there is evidence or not. Teaching superstitious reasoning to a child is one of the worst possible actions an adult can take and is a form of child abuse.

 

Science also says being able to replicate the results is a sign of proof, which happened. The claim of "x response means y is going to happen" was not only proven multiple times, but in multiple ways. Her signs of "watch out for doors" and "something is about to fall" struck were each accurate more than once. 

 

Logic is one thing, but to say "it doesn't exist" because you can't yet explain would have put us back centuries. You want to bring superstition into this, saying "I can't explain it so it must be of devil" was a big stumbling block of scientific progress for quite a while, because people couldn't just accept "it works" and try to figure it out. 

 

The whole of reality is a much bigger and strange place than people give credit for, to say we are the masters of all things and know it all is the worst form of arrogance. 

 

Science is about have a open mind, it's not saying "Get out out here, that's bullshit" it's saying "Alright, let's dig through this bullshit and find out whats where the hell the bull it's coming from is and how it's making all this" 

 

The more you use the old fallback of throwing out what you can't explain, the more you close yourself off to potential breakthroughs. There was a time someone would've been called crack-pot for suggesting something like harnessing electricity. 

[Nah 3,182]

Character analyzation, its a cartoon, none of the characters are deep.

 

 I also hate the bronies who like RD and make a gigantic deal out of it. Or the RD fans that make it like RD is supreme and better than everything. So basically all the idiotic RD fans. Not the ones that are normal, just the idiotic ones. 

Fluttershy fans are much worse IMO, a good majority of them will literally bash you if you say one single negative thing about her, and many people like her because "She's sweet and innocent, she did nutting wrong", and most of the time, just that reason. 

 

I also hate people who bash somebody else for liking a certain character, like for example, the few people IRL that I know that watch MLP hate Rarity with such a burning passion, that they'll go as far as to complain about her every single time and talk about wanting to kill her. Good god, that's annoying.

 

Character worship, as an RD fan myself, I really love Dashie, but I am not going too far to the point where I say that I'm gonna marry her. (Although I make the occasional She's mai Waifu joke), I've seen some crazy stuff, especially that one guy who is convinced that he is married to Twilight.........

 

Brony Musicians, sure they may have talent, but I get really annoyed by the ones that treat it as biggest Brony sin you can commit (next to disliking/hating Fluttershy, clopping, liking R34 artwork, writing fanfics, not liking My Little Dashie, not rewatching the episodes 3 billion times a day, etc)

 

Neckbeards, I'm sorry, but, it's too much of a generalization that all MLP fans are like this.

 

R/MLP, uh, do us a favor reddit and quit thinking you control MLP.

 

Memes, honestly, they're getting old and many of them are forced piles of crap made by some 12 year old on le may may base.

 

Bronies who hate against people who legitimately dislike MLP and give them the title "hater", I give them the title, "They don't like it, so don't force it on them"

Edited October 11, 2013 by ~Chaotic Kyoko~

[Exuro Spark 5]

That's what makes it so bad. Sure, Twilight doesn't write "Dear Princess Celestia, today I learned to stop questioning the world and to suppress my scientific curiosity, replacing it with superstition" but the message is pretty clear. MLP is an American show and 85% of Americans believe in God but that doesn't mean that morals brimming with religious undertones should be aired on TV to 6 year old girls.

I would actually argue that it was TRYING to teach that not everything can be explained. It did a terrible job, but it wasn't as sinister as you're making it out to be. It doesn't need this deep of an analysis.

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

I would actually argue that it was TRYING to teach that not everything can be explained. It did a terrible job, but it wasn't as sinister as you're making it out to be. It doesn't need this deep of an analysis.

 

That, that right there, I may get wordy with it to make my point but that's the just of my point. It's saying you shouldn't deny something you have the proof of right in front of you because you can't yet explain how it works. 

Edited December 13, 2013 by Shoboni

[Gabriel Smith 53]

Also winged unicorn would not fit, at least not for the royal sisters as they're supposed to represent all three races combined. Winged unicorn leaves out the earth ponies... and to a lesser extent pegasus and putting the focus very much on to the unicorns

 

And how in the name of Menoth is Alicorn "leaving in the Earth Ponies" exactly? If they're supposed to represent all three races as the fandom claims is the case (something that is neither proven or disproven - for all we know the Alicorns are Sufficiently Advanced Aliens) then where's the part in that that represents the Earth Pony exactly?

 

Because that name at face value is only representing a single race, two at bestcase.

 

EDIT - And yes, I checked - this is to do with the Dictionary definition as well as it's Mythological connotations. No, I'm not trying to say or pass that "Winged Unicorn" is a better name. It'd be more accurate, but it's also exceptionally bland.

Edited August 13, 2013 by Gabriel Smith

[Taviscratch 453]

I would actually argue that it was TRYING to teach that not everything can be explained. It did a terrible job, but it wasn't as sinister as you're making it out to be. It doesn't need this deep of an analysis.

EXACTLY! Children should not be taught that not everything can be explained. Everything has a cause and therefore that cause can be found. This sort of thinking is what stifles progress. How bad would it be if doctors and scientists didn't even try to find a cure for cancer as they believed that a cure was just out of reach, beyond our understanding and therefore they should resign themselves to never attempting to discover it? EVERYTHING can be explained if only we work hard at finding the explanation.

 

It's not even a deep analysis, it was my first impression. This is the same for all the other bronies which are appalled by the message this episode conveyed; at face value it is anti-intellectual. That is all I will say on the subject as it is off-topic.

[GreyScholar 1,584]

And how in the name of Menoth is Alicorn "leaving in the Earth Ponies" exactly? If they're supposed to represent all three races as the fandom claims is the case (something that is neither proven or disproven - for all we know the Alicorns are Sufficiently Advanced Aliens) then where's the part in that that represents the Earth Pony exactly?

 

Because that name at face value is only representing a single race, two at bestcase.

 

EDIT - And yes, I checked - this is to do with the Dictionary definition as well as it's Mythological connotations. No, I'm not trying to say or pass that "Winged Unicorn" is a better name. It'd be more accurate, but it's also exceptionally bland.

I never said that alicorn was the correct word that should be used just that its only meaning was not simply 'the horn of the unicorn'. I was pointing out that it actually does have a different meaning in French.

 

Lauren Faust herself said that Celestia and Luna were meant to represent all three races, the harmony of the races.

 

Fans must find a word that better represents the fact that this is the case for Celestia and Luna. One may be able to get away with calling Twilight and Cadence a winged unicorn and pegacorn but not the royal sisters.

Edited August 13, 2013 by EquestrianScholar

[Gabriel Smith 53]

I never said that alicorn was the correct word that should be used just that its only meaning was not simply 'the horn of the unicorn'. I was pointing out that it actually does have a different meaning in French.

 

Lauren Faust herself said that Celestia and Luna were meant to represent all three races, the harmony of the races.

 

Fans must find a word that better represents the fact that this is the case for Celestia and Luna. One may be able to get away with calling Twilight and Cadence a winged unicorn and pegacorn but not the royal sisters.

 

Indeed. I apologise if my comments may have gotten a bit out of hand. Though at least we can agree a better name is required. Unfortunately however, Mythological Horses tend to be close relatives to the Pegasi - I had previously thought the Turkish Tulpar would have been a better name...until upon closer reading it was basically a Pegasus.

 

Again, my apologies if I went a bit overboard. It's a habit of mine during debate time -_-

 

However, I still stand by above point, especially upon looking up one of the definitions of the word -

 

(nonstandard) A winged horse with a single horn on its head; a winged unicorn. 

 

 

Which naturally leaves out the Earth Ponies too (BTW, source on this is Wiktionary, so take with salt pinch).

[Bucky McGillyCuddy 956]

Probably the phrase "Mary Sue" I'm pretty sure that half the fandom uses it and don't even know what exactly a Mary sue is. Even worse is "Gary Stu" *quivers*

Edited August 13, 2013 by Bucky_McGillycuddy