Autistic brony insult?

[Glisten 3]

The largest issue with the identification of aspergers is the process could better be defined as an art than a science. There are traits, actions and responses to lookout for with a check list to back you up, but the simple problem is every single person with autism, aspergers, high functioning etc are all different.

 

Insults referring to autism, to aspergers etc are as hypocritical as insults because someone is human. We're all human, but no-one is a like. Autism just means there's one more label on us, but it doesn't mean there's anything different specifically between one person with, and one without. 

 

Having aspergers feels like I have received a gift towards incredible academic ability, because I feel I wouldn't be the person I am if I didn't have my logic or my slightly anti-social behaviour.

 

So yeah, we're all friends, have autism and be proud of hoo you are - Pretty sure no-one would think less of us just for being born with it.

Edited October 6, 2013 by Glisten

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,616]

Even though I have heard that the term is not being see anymore, lump me in with the Aspergers group, though apparently my case is more severe than the average Aspie, according to the mental professionals I have went to. I get some f the smarts and an incredibly quirky and unique personality, but a ton of flaws as well.

 

Truly, I want to say that it is just becoming the new 'retarded', being that is just a substitute to calling someone stupid. In these cases though, in terms of the Brony fandom, I just don't think it is the case. The apparent insult is that only an autistic person that is male and of the average Brony age could possibly like a show about magical ponies. This kind of insult really gets to me sometimes. Not because of the fact that I *am* autistic myself, whatever, I take pride in that, so call me it all you want, you are just pointing out what I already know, but in general these insults harshly imply that there is something horrendously wrong with being autistic, unlike the 'retarded' insult where it usually replaces stupid, this one is it's own insult entirely. I mean, how? The way I see it, humanity is immensely flawed in many ways and pathetic people like the ones who use such insults are a fine example of one of the flaws.

 

I truly don't know what else to say in regards to it. People want to be this stupid, then fine. This kind of idiocy on the Internet is absolutely nothing new and will only get worse as time goes on. While I have many, many flaws and problems, I do have a unique child-like personality that I *do* like, all of that more than likely by the Aspergers and potentially hydrocephalus making my brain go even more wonky a long time ago.

 

Stay calm and let stupid stupid or something along those lines.

[Shanks 10,816]

but it doesn't mean there's anything different specifically between one person with, and one without. 

I wouldn't go so far as to say that, while there is a lot we don't know what we do know has shown that the Autistic brain is wired very differently than the "normal" brain. I am with you 100% on everything else though, I don't know how much of my talent with music or my high IQ has to do with my particular form of Autism but I am grateful for both either way and even if I am different from others in some ways I want many of the same things even most "normal" people want.

[Ganondox 899]

I wouldn't go so far as to say that, while there is a lot we don't know what we do know has shown that the Autistic brain is wired very differently than the "normal" brain. I am with you 100% on everything else though, I don't know how much of my talent with music or my high IQ has to do with my particular form of Autism but I am grateful for both either way and even if I am different from others in some ways I want many of the same things even most "normal" people want.

 

We know it's wired differently, but it's not any specific difference. Generally it's often summarized in that the autistic brain has more connections in it, but these connections are more localized. As it's diagnosed based on behavior rather than neurology there can't really be an exact neurology with it. 

[BrilliantVenture 334]

Here's the thing...my parents had degrees in special education and such, and I looked over the paperwork on occasion, and I have to say I think the entire notion of aspergers is incredibly idiotic...to label someone as "troubled" or having a "disorder" because they like things to a greater extent, or based on how social they are is absolutely preposterous! 

 

Here's some of the stuff I remember from reading...

 

"Signs that your child may have aspergers syndrome"

 

1.He will become obsessed with a certain thing and think of it often...

ok...so it's okay for people that play american football, tennis, swimming, etc. to think of it all the time, and to compete and excel  or someone who is a musician and practices an instrument every day for hours, or someone who has a wife, or girlfriend and thinks of them often...all that's seen as normal...but someone who likes my little pony, or things seen as "abnormal" by others who don't share that interest in that nature...obviously have problems right??? people like different things...why call certain people "unwell" just for having an interest or hobby different than most? Plus, some people just want to get better at things, or gain knowledge of things...you could say I'm obsessed with music/djing...but all I want is to get better at it to be the best I can be...I have a life outside of that too! it's crazy to think that people wanting to better themselves, or enjoy a hobby is seen as a negative trait...

 

2.They may have a hard time socializing with others, and prefer to keep to themselves...

are you kidding me? so just because someone doesn't have that much interest in other people's sometimes mundane tasks, you're mentally disabled? I went to school where the things most people were interested in was reality tv, sports, top40 music, and gossip...why would I want to get into that? it wasn't my interest...so yeah, I was kind of a loner...but that doesn't mean I was mentally disabled, I just wasn't interested in their habits. 

 

3.They may have a hard time understanding other people, and taking things too literally.

That has more to do with how the kids were raised rather than their psychological state...if parents raise their kids to be too trusting, and the school they happen to be in is filled with scammers and people that want to take advantage of your kid simply because he/she is a nice person...then whose fault is that? definitely not the kid's...

 

and those are only a few traits! there were a ton more like that...

 

To me, it just seemed like an opportunity to make money by telling others they need drugs/special trainers to get through life, when really there's nothing wrong with them at all...people are different and come in all shapes and sizes, with different abilities and likes/dislikes...why label people anything other than "people?"

 

Then again this is all just opinion, feel free to disagree...but I just feel diagnosis such as this is better left undone...to me, it's about as false as Rarities eyelashes...

[Emperor Posh 360]

Blame 4chan for all this bullshit. They've pretty much turned "autistic" into an insult on the internet, to the point that almost no one even knows what "autistic" even means anymore.

Ok I want to get one thing straight with you . If not for 4chan we would not have the community we have today. We probably wouldn't have any of the current Brony websites, the community would probably only be a fraction of the size it is today. The banning of MLP on 4chan was what sparked a huge community growth. It was because of the banning that people made their own MLP sites. Yes 4chan has alot of bad stuff on it, but they can also be thanked for alot of stuff. Just look up some past info on the Brony community most of what we have now communitywise sparked after that banning on 4chan.

 

As for this topic, I haven't really seen people relate MLP with mental issues, only homosexuality.

Edited October 6, 2013 by Xelphos

[Misty Shadow 7,904]

Anyone can turn something into an insult or use something as a reason to make fun of someone, regardless of whether it makes sense or not. It's just unfortunate that autism is one of those things.

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

Because it's become a generic insult akin to retard. When you have it dumped on you by other people constantly that it's a bad thing, you begin to become insulted by being accused of having it.

 

It's much the same way they gay has become a insult online, even though it should be found no more offense that someone calling you Mexican. When something is used as a insult enough, you been to view it and react to it as such.

 

Also, most the people that use autistic as a insult are on the 4Chan team,. 

[Ianpiersonjdavis 513]

Well, as a Brony who has struggled with autism his entire life I unfortunately have seen this insult quite a few times from 'Anti-Bronies' using the term 'autistic' in the same manner as 'retarded'.

 

Does it hurt/offend me?

 

Yes.

 

Does it make me angry?

 

Yes.

 

But, the best thing you can do is reason to yourself that it they had a real life they wouldn't feel the need to attack others and move on.

 

Because they have nothing better to do with their time than to attack someone solely because they like watching a show about cartoon ponies.

 

That's pretty pathetic if you ask me.

 

Just let it go and move on-they're not worth the time or the energy.

Edited October 30, 2013 by TimeLordRainbowDash

[TMD_Raptor 7]

A lot of anti-bronies or what have you, are using the term "autistic" as way to stereo type us. Yes, a majority of bronies including myself are autistic, but these stereotypes are making me feel uncomfortable in the fandom. Soon all autistics will be seen as bronies. This, I don't want happening. Ever.

[Ribbonfree 2,383]

Terms, unfortunately or otherwise, always find a way into colloquial as insults if they are perceived in anyway as negative. Same with 'faggot', '[racism 1]', etc. It's being used to rouse and jibe, and you can't stop them from using those words. You can only ignore them.

[ghostfacekiller39 23,860]

I understand what you mean, even though I'm not autistic myself; it just makes sense

 

All I can say, though, is that if you truly enjoy something, enjoy it for yourself and fuck what other people think.

 

I mean, I know it just sounds like a stock statement, but there's so much truth in those words that I feel comfortable putting it down  

If you can apply that kind of mindset to your Brony-dom and not worry about what Anti-Bronies do, than you'll be golden, bro
 

[Bendy 1,821]

Many negative things are said about us Bronies.

 

According to some people (Internet Trolls) we're all apparently sick pedophiles. I think most Bronies aren't pedophiles, but like every other fandom or group there is always some, take the Catholic Church for example.

 

***  

 

Also Cloppers like myself may give the fandom a bad name. But rule 34 is rule 34, also these MLP FIM Ponies are sapient. XD

Edited March 16, 2014 by Rush

[Scootalove 10,689]

I understand too, I've heard so many stereotypes and negative things said about us from a lot of people who don't understand us or the show. If you don't let the stereotypes or hatred get to you, you will be fine.

[SFyr 1,982]

Huh. I personally haven't heard that stereotype thankfully.

Regardless, it just sounds like people being stupid. I don't really see people pegging autistic kids as bronies, at least from my view, but at worst I see bronies being seen as somewhat autistic by default.

But again, only to those dumb enough to make sweeping assumptions of groups as a whole, when people are individualistic creatures with more exceptions than rules.

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

Join the club. I'm not exactly Mr. PC but using Autistic as a slur is one of the few things that make me want to knock someone's teeth in. 

[Courageous Thunder Dash 7,824]

I have Aspergers but that doesn't mean I can't control myself. The anti-bronies are just throwing this word around not taking the time to find out what the word really means.  

[inactive lol get mem 123]

When ever someone called me autistic for being a brony I brushed it off. Probably because I had no idea what it meant XD But then I did some research on what autism meant and now for some reason the comments insult me now, even though I'm not autistic. Stereotypes can do weird things. For example more people in the UK are getting braces when they don't need them now because of the UK "Bad Teeth" stereotype.

[GXPBlast 597]

The bronies I have met usually meet some stereotypes while others meet none at all.

 

However, most of the bronies tend to meet these stereotypes the most and not that its a bad thing. These include, they are very quirky and social, have an interest in anime and geeky things, and others can be very shy until they are comfortable around someone. Also, many do wear fedoras on occasions.

 

Others dont fit any stereotype and you would never expect them to be a brony.

 

However, there is one brony I know that pretty much fits every negative stereotype but in general he is a good person.

 

This one brony in particular is overweight, has a neckbeard, is kind of a social outcast, and does not have good hygiene at all. But he is a good person but does help promote negative brony stigma.

 

In general out of the 10 bronies I know in real life, many fit some stereotypes that are not bad, others fit very little if not any, and one fits the negative stereotype

Edited March 16, 2014 by furgrid

[Shanks 10,816]

There certainly are a lot of Autistic bronies, myself being one of them but I think it is a bit of a stretch to say that is the case for the majority of bronies though I wouldn't be surprised if half the brony fanbase was Autistic as we do tend to embrace interests that society sees as unusual and fandoms in general attract a lot of people that are a bit more introverted but of course there are plenty of non autistic bronies. I wouldn't worry about this though because the fact is that the haters are just using it as another cheap insult, autistic, pedophile, gay it seems like they will throw at as whatever they think will stick and it really speaks to how stupid, narrow minded and pathetic they are. Have you ever heard of the phrase "give them enough rope and they will hang themselves?" I think that is exactly the approach we should take to haters, they want attention and if we give it to them it will encourage them but if we don't than they will either discredit themselves or grow bored and find another target to bully. I have learned a long time ago that it is a waste of time and energy to even give a damn what others think.

 

 

Also Cloppers like myself may give the fandom a bad name.

What I find amusing is that MLP though it has a lot of R34 is not the fandom with the most R34, Pokemon actually has significantly more than MLP does but I am yet to see anyone claim it is giving Pokemon fans a bad name. I just think it is another example of haters just trying to find things to slander bronies with, alot more bronies than are willing to admit though. I certainly have no trouble admitting it but can understand why others might be a bit more reluctant.

Edited March 16, 2014 by EarthbendingProdigy

[LightsCameraAction 100]

Unfortunately, I believe that what you fear is already happening, I have seen it all over the internet. Sometimes, it is something as small as someone with an opinion. If someone has a different opinion about anything girly at all, it has started to be associated with bronies, and autism. That's right, both of them grouped to one another. People just assume that if you watch MLP, you have autism, and vice versa. Me? I do not have autism, but I do watch the show. And I am willing to bet there are people with autism that don't watch the show. Anyway, I just hate to see stereotypes in the first place, whether it be on the internet, off the internet, or somewhere in between, it's just wrong all together.

[GenderIsAnIllusion 2,177]

Autistic..... AUTISTIC?......

 

I mean wtf.... Do people even know what autism is?!?!........ God my faith in humanity is dwindling fast.....

[Oblivion 20,267]

People tend to be very close minded on things like this, best just not ta feed the trolls, let them keep their hate, it makes them weak!!!

Edited March 17, 2014 by 0blivion

[FatalRain 108]

Honestly, there's going to be stereotypes among any crowd of any people

You can't change that

The best you can do is to try to spread the word to less educated people

[Fluttershyfan94 5,742]

First of all, majority of bronies are not autistic. Secondly, non of the stereotypes are true for everyone that's why they're stereotypes. Best is to simply not think about it.