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Well? What do you think? I couldn't find a thread like this, so...

 

  • Rarity - Would probably end up failing to create those perfect dresses, and would be miserable with herself but would happy for most likely getting congratulated for the dresses she DID made.
  • Rainbow Dash - Would win the race and go on to become friends with Fluttershy.
  • Fluttershy - Would get teased every now and then and would not have discovered her love of animals so quickly. 
  • Twilight Sparkle - Would fail the magic test and go home and study even harder than before and might overwork her body to the extreme and would suffer health issues later on.
  • Pinkie Pie - Would continue working depressingly on the rock farm until death or at least till she moves.
  • Applejack - Would continue living with her aunt and uncle and would continue being miserable and something she's not. 

What are your interpretations? 

 

 

 

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Well, equestria would be in complete and total darkness, ponyville would be the chaos capitol of the world, shining armor would have married a changeling queen, cadence would probably be dead, sombra would continue rulling over the crystal empire and cloudsdale would have been conquered by the diamond dog army (season 4, im calling it).

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It couldn't not happen. It was destiny.

cloudsdale would have been conquered by the diamond dog army (season 4, im calling it).

How could they conquer Cloudsdale? They couldn't even stand there. The crystal empire would be much more attractive to them.

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Well despite the episode's implications the Sonic Rainboom in and of itself didn't prompt a lot of the Mane 6's major events to happen. Rather it coincided with a lot of them and the rest is purely left up to the viewers. I'm assuming this is the Sonic Rainboom from The Cutie Mark Chronicles

 

From what I can surmise:

 

-Rarity's discovery of her cutie mark was rather sudden and abrupt and her drive for fashion and generosity had long prior been there as a filly.

-Applejack chose on her own accord to go to the big city in Manehattan and discovered on her own that the city life and Oranges didn't suit her.

-Twilight was always a bookish nerd and scholar and went to Celestia's school for talented unicorns by her own will.

-Rainbow was still the consistently competitive and good friend she was to Fluttershy.

-Fluttershy would have still been that shy introvert that never quite fit in and subconsciously was that kind compassionate soul.

-Pinkie would still remain that subconsciously happy, joyful fun soul as well, though she may have discovered it elsewhere.

 

Bearing in mind of course that each of the Mane 6's stories are vastly inconsistent at times, especially Pinkie's, the point here is that though it may have been "destiny"  :huh: that caused the Sonic Rainboom to coincide with their times of self discovery, each of the Mane 6, on their own acted upon their own will and heart to discover who they truly were to a large part. I truly don't believe it was ultimately some divine act of providence that drew them together as some and the implications of a recent Magical Mystery Cure may suggest. The Sonic Rainboom merely helped weave there lives together in a profound and symbolic way that helped them further realize themselves and their goals.

 

Of course we also have to bear in mind that Twilight herself had to actually come and stay in Equestria AND befriend the Mane 6 on her own accords, not Trollestia Celestia. Had she not chosen to "stop reading dusty old books" and "make friends" as Celestia suggested she may have gone the way of Starswirl the Bearded or become like Trixie or Sunset Shimmer. Without her key decisions and acting upon herself, Nightmare Moon may never have been stopped, Discord would wreak havoc OR perhaps another pupil could have succeeded Twilight.

 

There is the fact that the Mane 6 usually tend to prevail ultimately and act upon better judgment, but this is destiny driven by the writer, which all characters in a story are bound to. The point is that destiny or not, the Mane 6 are where they are due to their own decisions and their choice to reinforce the friendship they have made. The show's called Friendship is Magic for a reason, not Destiny is Magic.

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In the long term, I don't see things changing very much. 

 

I see the sonic rainboom as a catalyst, similar to those used in chemical reactions. It's helpful, but not required. Rather than creating the Mane Six's cutie marks, the rainboom merely served to facilitate and hasten the process. The ponies already had their special talents within them; they only needed something to jumpstart their realizations. In other words, the reactants for the reaction were already present. Twilight? She was already obsessed with learning and magic. Rainbow Dash? She was already a prodigious flier. Rarity? Working on her dream, as well. Applejack? Most of her family is in the agricultural business. She clearly didn't like the city life, and would almost certainly have gone home sooner or later. Pinkie and Fluttershy are less certain, but they also have the simplest talents. Pinkie Pie's talent is making others happy, but she's never known happiness. Fluttershy's talent is dealing with animals, but she's never seen another animal. All these two need is contact with these factors, and, given the widespread nature of these factors, contact is only a matter of time.

 

Ultimately, I think that the Mane Six will still gain their cutie marks if the sonic rainboom never happened, but at a later time than in canon. It certainly wouldn't be the end of the world, that's for sure. 

 

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Lots of change... Okay, no real change since everything couldn't have happened as it did then, because timeline and... You know what I'm talking about... Already had a fanfic idea about thta, but it's too complex... massive headcanon ahead... requires my definition of destiny as something that is not set...

 

Twilight Sparkle:

 

She failed the test as it was to be expected then. Being uncertain about magic as her favorite thing there is, she started to study different things until one day she realized that studying and knowledge themselves are things she really admires. So she obtained a different Cutiemark.

 

Applejack:

 

Staying in Manehatten, she finally adapted to that life one day. Her universal talents been manifested to one she can also practice far away from Sweet Apple Acres. Baking.

 

Rarity:

 

She still stuck to fashion, but never in the "independent fashionista way", but as a simple seamstress. So she never became as good in it as if the Sonic Rainboom happened.

 

Pinkie Pie:

 

After years on the rock farm, she became the best and most successful rock farmer ever. But without ever exploring hapiness in her life, she is a hell of a boss.

 

Raibow Dash:

 

If she simply didn't achieved the necessary acceleration then she simply won the race. then being a good but not outstanding flyer, she stuck to what she also can do good. Weather control.

 

Fluttershy:

 

She applied her kindness and caring nature to ponies instead of animals. I think she would have become a nurse, maybe.


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It's hard to imagine it not happening. It isn't explained and it doesn't need to be explained, but the Elements of Harmony chose to reside in these six ponies and they were going to reveal their presence on this particular day no matter what. It was largely a contemporaneous event (Fluttershy and Rarity were already exhibiting newfound abilities just before the rainboom happened). But of all the manifestations of talent and power that occurred, the rainboom is the only one that was noticed by all six ponies.

 

The real question is, what if a lack of a rainboom delayed or stopped Twilight Sparkle's enrollment into Canterlot's school? Twilight was still very good with magic for her age, but she might have gone undiscovered by Princess Celestia. That would open a huge can of worms. I sometimes think Celestia <let> Nightmare Moon kidnap her so the Mane 6 could discover their true power in their quest to rescue her. If Celestia had nobody she could count on to stop Nightmare Moon on her scheduled reappearance, she might have taken another course of action to deal with it.

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I think its possible Nightmare moon would've taken over, because Twilight wouldn't have become her pupil, and thus maybe not learned what she needed.

 

Also at the very least the others cutie marks would be delayed in being gained. Fluttershy might not have discovered her talent for animals, for a while, or possibly ever, meaning she may not have got her talent.

 

Pinkie may have never discovered happyness or atleast again it would be delayed, which might even mean that she wouldn't be in ponyville and thus not meet Twilight, same with Fluttershy really.

 

Rarity might have just taken a while to learn hers, but she'd still already live in ponyville I assume, she just wouldn't be as famous a dress maker.

 

Applejack I think would've been the same, honestly she missed home and would've eventually returned.

 

Rainbow dash, well idk She might have still won the race, but possibly not learned she could do a sonic rainboom as early on, I assume she might've later since she already seemed into racing when she raced for fluttershys honor.

 

I think overall its possible that the mane 6 wouldn't have been present for Twilight to meet them and thus not have them find the elements and wield them against night mare moon, meaning she may have gone on to reign.

 

Its sorta hard to imagine it for sure though.

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Things would be exactly the same. Do you know why? When Twilight Sparkle was reading up on the Summer Sun Celebration, she learned about the Elements of Harmony. She would've searched high and low to find them, and thus would've searched high and low to find the Mane 6 wherever they would be. The rest of their adventures would continue from there ;)

 

Nonetheless, we've never seen a pony the same age of the Mane 6 that hasn't received their cutie mark, right? So even if there was no Sonic Rainboom, their cutie marks would've still come about. Rarity would've eventually discovered the secret behind the rock, something particularly sunny would activate Pinkie Pie's epiphany, etc etc. I'd say the Sonic Rainboom just sped things up a bit.

 

The only question I have would be Rainbow Dash's cutie mark. Would she still have got it without activating a Rainboom? Did it depend on her simply winning the race, or did it relate to the Rainboom? She hit a cloud when the Rainboom went off, and her cutie mark is a rainbow bolt next to a cloud, so it could be the case; but that also depends on the question of whether a pony's cutie mark is determined from birth, but received later.

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I think they would have never met but, Twilight was reading about the Elements of Harmony so maybe she could try to find the holders of the Elements besides herself. I think they still would have been able to find their talents maybe Rainbow Dash would have still finished the race and gained her cutie mark once again.

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There are definetely things that could've been much different if the sonic rainboom never happened, but I think that it was destined to happen. It wasn't just luck. It gave all of the mane six their cutie marks, and they became friends years later. That's too much of a coincidence.


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Well, the Mane 6 wouldn't have ever met and they wouldn't ever have gotten their cutie marks, and Spike never being born. Don't forget that Twilight wouldn'tve been able to become a alicorn if it weren't for the Sonic Rainboom, which allowed her to get into the school.


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Upon revisiting this subject I myself had a profound revelation. The Sonic Rainboom itself wasn't necessarily what brought the Mane 6 together. It may have very well just been a consequence.

 

While Fluttershy herself may not have been the direct cause of the events playing out she played a significant role alongside Rainbow Dash. Had Rainbow never intervened or met a person like Fluttershy, the whole concept of a Sonic Rainboom may never have played out the way it did, and she could have very well become a bully like the other pegasi and Gilda. 

 

Fluttershy's inherent kindness and sensitivity, which led to others bullying her, prompted the loyalty of a friend like Rainbow to stand up for Fluttershy. The rainboom helped inspire happiness and joy in Pinkie Pie that later spreads beyond Ponyville, make Applejack realize what she honestly and sincerely desires, allows Rarity to realize and spread her generosity and hospitality, and helps awaken the magic in Twilight that leads her to find her friends.

 

Really I'm not sure the writers even realized it when they wrote Cutie Mark Chronicles, but the overall theme is in the title of the show itself My Little Pony, Friendship is Magic.

 

I guess it should be expected that the poster mare of the show had key roles to play along with the one character that singelhandedly subdued a Dragon, Manticore, Cerberus and Discord:

 

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Well I think that if that rainboom never would have happened, they wouldn't have found their talents that day. One might argue that without that rainboom that tied them together, they may have never met each other. They may have never known they were the Elements of Harmony.

 

Thus, Nightmare Moon would be ruling Equestria right now with eternal night.

 

Without the warming, life sustaining sunlight, Equestria would be a perpetually dark, frozen wasteland with nothing but the ruins and skeletons of a once humble civilization of marshmallowey, candy colored ponies. 

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Well, everyone in Equestria dies due to eternal night except for Nightmare Moon, Sombra, Discord, and debatably, Queen Chrysalis. The Changelings starve due to lack of food and some killing from Nightmare Moon. Discord is eventually freed and proceeds to rip Nightmare Moon in half and bring everypony back to life so they can suffer properly. Sombra eventually wakes up and rules the Crystal Empire quietly so Discord doesn't notice him and turn him into candy. Thus, Sombra rules the Crystal Empire and Discord rules Equestria, land of necromanced ponies. 

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They would've all gotten their cutie marks in a different way, probably all met up in a different way, been friends anyway, and stopped Nightmare Moon anyway.

 

I fuckin' hate the Sonic Rainboom. I'm sorry, I really do. I run into the problem a lot where I'll say something like "Rarity is my favorite pony! :D" Then some RD fan would say "Yeahh, but RD is best. Sonic Rainboom."

 

No other argument. Sonic Rainboom. That's all.

 

Gahh. So annoying.

 

I really wish that wasn't even part of the episode. They could've found a better way than to make one pony look so much better than the rest in that episode.

 

I mean, honestly. It led them to get their cutie marks. Everypony gets a cutie mark.

 

Other than for Twilight, how does it change any of their lives to where all of that happens? It doesn't. They would've all gotten one anyway. Plus, that doesn't even keep them from being friends. I'm pretty sure fate wants us to have people we love in our lives, and I'm sure fate would have brought them together, anyway. It was fate that led them together.

 

Not Rainbow Dash. Not the Sonic Rainboom.

 

Fate. It was meant to be. They were meant to be friends.

 

So stahp it.

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They would've all gotten their cutie marks in a different way, probably all met up in a different way, been friends anyway, and stopped Nightmare Moon anyway.

 

I fuckin' hate the Sonic Rainboom. I'm sorry, I really do. I run into the problem a lot where I'll say something like "Rarity is my favorite pony! :D" Then some RD fan would say "Yeahh, but RD is best. Sonic Rainboom."

 

No other argument. Sonic Rainboom. That's all.

 

Gahh. So annoying.

 

I really wish that wasn't even part of the episode. They could've found a better way than to make one pony look so much better than the rest in that episode.

 

I mean, honestly. It led them to get their cutie marks. Everypony gets a cutie mark.

 

Other than for Twilight, how does it change any of their lives to where all of that happens? It doesn't. They would've all gotten one anyway. Plus, that doesn't even keep them from being friends. I'm pretty sure fate wants us to have people we love in our lives, and I'm sure fate would have brought them together, anyway. It was fate that led them together.

 

Not Rainbow Dash. Not the Sonic Rainboom.

 

Fate. It was meant to be. They were meant to be friends.

 

So stahp it.

Well, Pinkie was still sane before the Sonic Rainboom, so she'd probably get a Cutie Mark in rock-farming, Rarity would discover her destiny later, Twilight would fail the exam and thus not become Celestia's personal pupil and causing Spike to never be born, Applejack would likely come home, just later, Rainbow Dash would go crazy from the humilation, and Fluttershy would be fine.

 

The big problem is Pinkie, she'll have no reason to leave the rock-farm if the Sonic Rainboom never happened. I would like to mention that you sounded a bit angry about RD, I take it she's worst pony to you? 


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Well, then say Twilight would have just failed the test with out it

PinkiePie would have never learn about laughter

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Hi there - just to let you know that we already have a topic to discuss what might happen if there were no original Sonic Rainboom. I've merged your thread with it, so that all the responses are in the same thread. :)

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Well, Pinkie was still sane before the Sonic Rainboom, so she'd probably get a Cutie Mark in rock-farming, Rarity would discover her destiny later, Twilight would fail the exam and thus not become Celestia's personal pupil and causing Spike to never be born, Applejack would likely come home, just later, Rainbow Dash would go crazy from the humilation, and Fluttershy would be fine.

 

The big problem is Pinkie, she'll have no reason to leave the rock-farm if the Sonic Rainboom never happened. I would like to mention that you sounded a bit angry about RD, I take it she's worst pony to you? 

No, she's not. Worst pony in the mane 6? Yeahh. Worst of all? Hell no. Not even close. I still like Dashie.

 

She's not Flash Sentry, remember that.

 

K. Back on topic.

 

...? You're just making baseless claims. You're just assuming Pinkie never would've found laughter. You don't know that.

 

Also, granny pie. Part 2 of Friendship is Magic. She taught Pinkie to laugh in the face of fear. That's what her whole song in the tree situation, remember?

 

Anyway, as for Twilight? It looked like she still had a love for studying and reading to me. She easily could've known about Nightmare Moon, gone to Ponyville to warn Celestia about it (she was supposed to be there that night anyway) and met the others and went to stop NMM.


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No, she's not. Worst pony in the mane 6? Yeahh. Worst of all? Hell no. Not even close. I still like Dashie.

 

She's not Flash Sentry, remember that.

 

K. Back on topic.

 

...? You're just making baseless claims. You're just assuming Pinkie never would've found laughter. You don't know that.

 

Also, granny pie. Part 2 of Friendship is Magic. She taught Pinkie to laugh in the face of fear. That's what her whole song in the tree situation, remember?

 

Anyway, as for Twilight? It looked like she still had a love for studying and reading to me. She easily could've known about Nightmare Moon, gone to Ponyville to warn Celestia about it (she was supposed to be there that night anyway) and met the others and went to stop NMM.

Pinkie's memory is......inconsistent at best unless you believe Pinkie is Jesus("And that was how Equestria was made"). Taking Pinkie's statements about her past literally is like taking Dash's comments about her speed seriously or Twilight's self-deprecation seriously.


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