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  On 2015-07-07 at 1:55 AM, Nightmare Muffin said:

but it SHOULD bother het. Especially now that she's a princess and ith more responsibility, and ponies looking up to and relying on her. Need I remind you of all the disaster when Applejack did the same, refusing help and wearing herself out to exhaustion, in "Applebuck season"?

 

Wasn't it Twi who insisted that AJ ask for and ACCEPT help? Now that Twilight is being put in the position that AJ was, back then, she needs to put into practice what she preached, for her own benefit, this time, before we have an Applebuck Season 2.0, featuring Twilight.

 

There is a difference, with your friends helping you a bit, then having a staff all around the castle for 24/7.

 

Twiilight is a pony who likes to have her alone times, to just read or whatever, so having someone who always asks her if she wants something, might go on her nerves after awhile.

 

Yes, she has a job that can be tiresome. But so are alot of other jobs in real life.

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  On 2015-07-06 at 3:16 PM, Nightmare Muffin said:

Been wondering for a while- ever since a few episodes after Twilight got her plastic pony playset....I mean, castle, from Hasbro....I mean, the Tree of Harmony. Where are her royal foot servants? Should her castle be that empty, without royal guard and ponies to wait hoof and hoof on the Princess? Should poor Spike REALY be the one to be doing the dishes, as seen in "Amending Fences"? Should Twilight's friends be the ones tasked with trying to repair the castle's damages, as seen in "Party pooped"?

 

Sunbutt, Luna, and Cadance each have their own staff to tend to them and their castles. Heck, even the Yak Prince Rutherford, Duke and Duchess of Maretonia, nd Prince Blueblood do, I'm sure. So why do you think Twilight doesn't, and makes her friends- who have their own lives, work, and responsibilities, do the work that could be left to royal staff....if she had any.

 

Why doesn't she have any, like the other royals?

They have hinted at her needing a staff. Poor Spike is being run ragged taking care of things on his own. As for the damage caused by the Yaks? That was "Comedic Damage" I'm sure Pinkie Pie would be the first to tell you that comic damage is the easiest to fix. 


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Well one of the first reasons would be funds. Twilight Sparkle would have to ask Celestia to provide the necessary funds to hire her own staff. So far, she got by paying minimum I guess but definitely getting a lot of free labor on the side.

 

Spike is getting too overloaded on work and there are just certain roles that needs a hired qualified pony instead of a kid Spike.

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  On 2015-07-07 at 2:23 AM, Singe said:

Well one of the first reasons would be funds. Twilight Sparkle would have to ask Celestia to provide the necessary funds to hire her own staff. So far, she got by paying minimum I guess but definitely getting a lot of free labor on the side.

Spike is getting too overloaded on work and there are just certain roles that needs a hired qualified pony instead of a kid Spike.

Twilight is set on funds, though. She grew up in Canterlot. Not a cheap town, since it's home to high class elites and celebs. Her brother got into the royal guard, and worked his way up to captain. And then married into royalty! Twilight herself went to Sunbutt's school for gifted unicorns, and became top student. You think a poor family could ever accomplish all of that?

 


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  On 2015-07-06 at 5:54 PM, Nightmare Muffin said:

I don't think it SHOULD be an issue of whether she wants staff or not. It is more of an issue of her NEEDING them, and that additional help. Just look at "Princess Spike", where Twilight pushed herself to stay up for 3 days, wihout sleep, to get things done. Twilight didn't delegate her work to make her load lighter, but took it all on by herself. And not only did she end up paying the price, but burdoned Spike with her actions, with him having to ensure that she got all the sleep she needed, after wearing herself out to that point, and thoughlessness, as well as the delegates who needed to rely on her for their isues.

 

Would Sunbutt and Luna's advisor/ schedule manager, Kibitz, allow for that situation to happen with THEM?

Hmmm that does make sense. Maybe she can get Moondancer and that background pony who also organized things to become her helpers in organization. Increase her brainy staff a bit.

 

Flash Sentry should be given from Celestia to Twilight as a gift and act as head of her castle security and Shining Armor having suspicions on where this leads to.

 

As for funding Twilight might come across a mine to be used. Maybe get a hold of the Diamond Dog's mine with Rarity's influence.

 

Spike should definitely be relegated to her right hand man. Moondancer and background pony takes care of some of the decisions made. Moondancer and background pony can definitely take up some of the workload allowing Twilight to get her sleep after proper training from Twilight and Spike yes I'm sure Spike understands what Twilight does more than anypony else.

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  On 2015-07-06 at 7:05 PM, LZRD WZRD said:

Twilight doesn't need guards. She ain't Seth Rollins or some chickenshit heel, she can fight for herself! Plus, she's got her friends who are better at helping her out than any jobbing guards would be.

 

Guards I can see -- a guard is really there to protect you from that which you do not see coming.  This can be the dagger in the night, or the attack from behind or from the shadows.  Thing is she probably doesn't WANT them, but sometime it should become clear that she NEEDS them.  Note this goes for all six, but woe to the personal guard of Rainbow Dash, or Pinkie Pie...  Maybe Rarity as well.

 

As for staff, she doesn't seem to exactly NEED a full-time staff.  She doesn't care about appearances, and is not holding court, or hosting guests in her castle typically.  She doesn't have a huge botanical garden.  Personally I think she would prefer a few research assistants from some canterlot college to maid service.

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Also I think Trixie though not entirely trustworthy yet could help in the castle as well since she doesn't have anywhere else to go except the rock farm and she doesn't seem to like that place.

 

You would also think Twilght and friends should be getting royalties from Canterlot for saving Equestria dozens of times as well as from the Equalist Town and Appaloosa.

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Celestia and the other princesses might be slowly narrowing down qualified gaurds from their own staff to personally gove to Twilight when they believe she is ready to be a leader for those whom are actually there to try and make her life easier. We know she is perfectly capable of being a good level headed leader during the time when the princesses where MIA with the gaurds approaching her for orders on What to do. The Princesses wheren't there to witness this for obvious reasons (IE getting sent to hell) and Due to that They had no way of seeing her quickly get into action on what needed to be done. Hell While we are at it Shining Armor and Cadance really should be forcing this gaurd thing considering they are legitly her relatives and Shining is the captain of the gaurds so he should have a good idea on who is spareable to send to his sister on account of the crystal empire being peaceful. Either way this will probably be dealt with next season at some point since the main focus right now is her ajusting to her role as Princess with summets, meetings, etc. Spike Will still continue to be her assistant since she will never replace him since he is the one Twilight personally taught to be her assistant exactly so nobody can never take his place.

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Twilight NEED some servants, guards etc. :D She isnt any normal pony, she IS THE ALICORN PRINCESS   B) How can you be a princess without your castle filled with  your loyal bodyguard? :fiery:  Her friends will always help her no matter what but remember they are MEMBER of the round table not servants. In short, Twilight needs to hire more staffs  :catface: . 

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I'm not really sure if she needs staff at her castle - Spike seems to suffice for the little needs they do have, and beforve we devolve in to the whole "boo hoo, poor Spike", let's remember one thing - Spike likes doing things for Twilight and takes great pride in doing so, and his role as her "assistant" is a major source of his self-confidence and identity.

 

He reacted poorly to an owl, if other ponies showed up to do the jobs/chores he is typically assigned he would probably run away to the Everfree again. It would be cruel to Spike to take that away from him, not 'helpful'. 

 

As for Guards ... well, it's again questionable what they would provide. They are useless against all the thousand-year old evils that Twilight and co get to tussle with from time to time, and Ponyville probably doesn't have any crime worth worrying about. I suppose they can be on lookout for assassins and such while Twilight sleeps (assuming that she doesn't have magical alarm spells placed anyway, and that this has ever actually been an issue in Equestria, meaning that chances are it isn't on any priority lists), but that's questionable.

 

In short, they would only get in the way when the next threat of the type Twilight typically gets to face emerges (meaning simply more bodies for her to worry about) and other identified threats might not truly exist in Equestria. And if it comes to a fight, she actually is the most militaristic of the four alicorns from what we have seen.

 

Yes, Celestia has guards but they seem to be there more for keeping adoring citizens from rushing her and for extra pomp and image - Celestia likes her shiny golden dingies and travels on a huge, opulent monstrosity of a charriot. By contrast, Twilight likes things simple, doesn't place value on excessive fanfare where she herself is concerned and prefers to wing it herself. She's simply going for a different image and approachability, one that guards don't necessarily help. And she likes her home to be as homely as possible, which isn't helped by having strangers work there.

 

Of course it isn't out of the question that she would eventually get them, but currently she doesn't seem to be in need of a serving staff (she has few needs and Spike meets them just fine), and militarily the guards would serve as an early warning system at best against the type of stuff she is expected to face. 

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You are forgetting a vital part of Twilight's Kingdom:

 

 

 

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Besides the fact that Twilight is more hands on, the nature of her work doesn't normally require an army of vassals and servants. Plus while they have other duties, its made quite clear that Twilight's Kingdom is meant to be ruled together with her friends, and most of the issues they are set out to solve can't be solved by just any one pony.

 

This is more like King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table, minus the servants and army. Twilight's not so much a ruler but rather a hero seeking out virtue. For that her friends are plenty enough help.

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Twilight kind of has her frIends as a sort of colour guard. She can also summon Discord at will so who needs a Royal Guard when you have the embodiment of chaos himself? XD

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  On 2015-07-07 at 2:43 AM, Nightmare Muffin said:

Twilight is set on funds, though. She grew up in Canterlot. Not a cheap town, since it's home to high class elites and celebs. Her brother got into the royal guard, and worked his way up to captain. And then married into royalty! Twilight herself went to Sunbutt's school for gifted unicorns, and became top student. You think a poor family could ever accomplish all of that?

 

 

It's known that once Twilight became Celestia's apprentice, she's been taken care of by the Princess. Twilight's current funds comes from Equestria Kingdom's coffers or Celestia's own.

 

If Twilight Sparkle is going to officially start having her own staff, she'll need to form a budget and figure out the finances of how to pay them. I highly lean that Twilight will use the kingdom's funds to pay for them.

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  On 2015-07-07 at 8:06 AM, Cwanky said:
. Twilight's not so much a ruler but rather a hero seeking out virtue.

 

This, pretty much. From what we see in the show, almost all of Twilight's "royal duties" are self-appointed, based on what she felt like doing at the time (Organize Celestia's gala, decide to broker relations with the Yaks, etc). She has no use for a constant staff because she keeps no constant schedule. 90% of the time she simply does what she felt like doing after getting out of the bed that morning :P

 

What seems to be her 'true' duty is handling all sorts of threats and mishaps around Equestria. She's pretty much the warrior/adventurer Princess of the bunch and as such has no use for a permanent staff - there simply wouldn't be anything for them to do most of the time.

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  On 2015-07-07 at 9:02 AM, Malinter said:

Twilight kind of has her frIends as a sort of colour guard. She can also summon Discord at will so who needs a Royal Guard when you have the embodiment of chaos himself? XD

you'd trust Discord- a spirit of Disharmony who has betrayed friendship for freedom and sided with a centuar to put the world in jeopardy, nearly sent an innocent pny to anothe dimension, turned Pinyville into a temporary chaos capital of the world, to protect Twilight?

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Forget Twilight. Now that Shilling Armor went to play a tubby wubby pony hubby to Princess Toybutt, we don’t actually have a Captain of the Royal Guard. The mooks need their leader! Who else is gonna guide them into defeat by the vile limbs of some mediocre villain?!

 

You know what? I know just what to do: drag that gal Sunset Shimmer back to her homeland, have a feels session with Princess Celestia, then slam a helmet on her pretty little head. She has literary everything a Captain requires: power, ambition, knows how to manage idiots, and she’d look good in armor. Do it H-Bro. Just do it! Don’t let our dreams be dreams. Last season you said next season, so just do it! Make our dreams come true! Just do it! (I’m making triangular hand gestures on my pubic symphysis!)

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