spoiler Fears Confirmed- New Pony Problem

[Deidara 7]

Okay, for one, this show is literally a toy franchise for little girls who's been going on for several seasons now. Baby plots tend to have the same result and for hells sake why does it matter? 

 

If you don't like Princess Flurry Heart then big whoop. It's not the end of the world that there may be an OP alicorn baby. There is the off chance that she cant control her powers. Hell, you have a bundle of tiny foal with a MASSIVE amount of power in her. It's no surprise that she WOULD have little to no control over what she's doing, or any sense of right and wrong when it comes to how its use.

 

[Cleverclover 1,526]

 

 

  On 2016-03-06 at 12:24 AM, Buck Testa said:

The theory doctor wolf proposed was that she had disrupted the Crystal heart, which was the thing blocking the perpetual snow storm in the first place. Remember that area had been covered in an overpowering blizzard before? So its Flurry heart didn't make the storm, she just ended up letting the storm in, which is considerably less impressive. 

 

That's possible, I suppose. 

 

 

 

  On 2016-03-06 at 12:38 AM, Key Sharkz said:

Stop making it out to be this big deal.

 

Yes, every legitimate and rational concern people may have is completely unfounded because the show is and will remain perfect. 

[Jest (Inactive) 875]

Whelp, so many people freaking out over a 30 second trailer to a cartoon. What is the point in going crazy with such a small bit of footage, just wait until the episode / season comes out and if it sucks in your opinion, well it isn't going to please everyone, some people will like this direction. 

 

Instead of picking holes in Hasbro's hardwork I can pick up on a few positives here, to me the animation / art style looks sleeker and more detailed than before and the show seems to be having more action which is good which can please older fans  

[CastletonSnob 3,079]

I lost a lot of faith in the writers after the S5 finale.

[Sazama Ichida 2,367]

This just can't be right...I mean come on if anypony is gonna surpass Celestia eventually then it needs to be Twilight obviously...How the fuck is Celestia even gonna remain ruler now that a freaking BABY is more powerful than she is? This episode had better have a damn good explanation for this...

[Comic Sans 401]

* eh, well, can't say i'm really hyped and i never really was in the first place. but i'll be watching it anyway just because i've watched all the other seasons.

[Castle Bleck 19,390]

  On 2016-03-06 at 12:59 AM, VG_Addict said:

I lost a lot of faith in the writers after the S5 finale.

 

Fortunately, they have a good history with the Author's Saving Throw trope, IMO.

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303]

  On 2016-03-06 at 12:54 AM, Cleverclover said:

Yes, every legitimate and rational concern people may have is completely unfounded because the show is and will remain perfect. 

I understand if people have a problem with this superbaby business, but "legitimate" and "rational" don't necessarily enter into it.  Oftentimes, where the fandom is concerned, "rational" is the last word I'd use.  And just because someone is tired of seeing the fandom repeatedly freak out doesn't mean they think the show is perfect.

 

And, as much as I try to avoid agreeing with @Key Sharkz about practically anything, they made a legitimate and rational point: No one has to watch the show.  If you're as bothered by this as some people seem to be, you had might as well stop.  Or hell: Just skip the episodes involving the superbaby.  She cannot be undone; it's too late.  The people who are concerned now are probably gong to continue being displeased about it.

[Goat-kun 2,530]

I believe that this little foal’s power is being wrongly attributed to lore instead of writers’ desire to make a funny episode that has to include this toy product one way or another to please our great H-Bro overlords. There are only so many things you can do when you are pushed into a corner by your bosses who want you to make their new shekel machine as prominent as possible. Those toys won’t sell themselves you know.

 

Whelp, my time for defending the writers is up, now the scourging of this foal begins!

 

This comical concept of a handful baby has been dragged through mud and sand for decades. It’s now neither funny nor clever, if it has ever been, and we are used to hold MLP: FIM to higher standards. No matter how logical it is inside you world, it is rarely executed well enough not to bore your audience with a predictable story since babies cannot be harmed and their interaction with the world is quite limited. Frankly, the best way to do another baby episode would be to heavily involve both parents and their families in a slice of life event: Cadence, Shining, Aunt Twilight, Uncle Spike, Grandma Velvet, Grandpa Night Light, Celestia, and Luna. There, get this out around Christmas and you get a Charlie Sheen Winning sticker. Get a secret Nick Cage sticker if Velvet teases Twilight about being next in line. But as I said, they probably had to include Flurry into these two episodes cause toys, so here we are.

 

Meh, all this about storms and Starlight “Muh Feelings” Glimmer smells kinda iffy. Can it be pulled off in a satisfying manner? Yes. But when was the last time our writers excelled in this department? Do we know who wrote this episode? Anyway, the silver lining here is that if H-Bro is indeed behind this baby two-parter, then there is a good chance we won’t see anything similar in other episodes.

Edited March 6, 2016 by Goat-kun

[LunatheNightmare 68]

I was optimistic for the opener but now i'm kinda worried. 

 

I had a feeling they would go down the "OP Flurry" route but i didn't think it was going to be this bad. She seems like she's gonna be a Deus Ex Machina, and hinting that she is the main series antagonist raises some red flags, because, come on, NOBODY cares to see an alicorn baby as the main villain of Season 6. I'm more excited for the Starlight Glimmer/Sunburst plot than Flurry Face.

 

I hope her powers have to be taken away by then end of the premier.

 

But, i'll judge it when i see it, and i'll stick with the show until it completely jumps the shark.

[Aurora Glimmer 494]

I'd be lying if I said I didn't have misgivings about the premiere, but I think all this doomsaying is getting ridiculous. Even if the premiere is lousy, we've still got 22 more episodes and the finale to look forward to. I didn't like The Cutie Re-Mark, but I still enjoyed Season 5 overall. 

[Cleverclover 1,526]

 

 

  On 2016-03-06 at 1:12 AM, Ziggy and Angelbaby said:

I understand if people have a problem with this superbaby business, but "legitimate" and "rational" don't necessarily enter into it.  Oftentimes, where the fandom is concerned, "rational" is the last word I'd use.  And just because someone is tired of seeing the fandom repeatedly freak out doesn't mean they think the show is perfect.

 

That's fair, but I haven't really seen it in this thread. I've mostly just seen a lot of concerns that sound mostly valid, but Heaven forbid anyone should have a problem with anything that happens in the show. 

 

And another thing, just because the Twilicorn drama was a massive overreaction doesn't mean Twilicorn didn't actually change anything. It changed a lot, mostly by significantly increasing her importance over her friends. It is therefore fair to assume that any changes in the show can be handled in the wrong way.

[Sidral Mundet 1,666]

  On 2016-03-05 at 10:41 PM, Megas said:

 

 

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Granted, we saw the future version of him first, but my point still stands

 

And he's not even the first one the show introduced

[Castle Bleck 19,390]

I'm holding on to the headcanon of just temporary bursts and/or a chain reaction, much like what Dr. Wolf, Buck Testa, etc. have suggested.

[Plonkett 345]

Just from watching the teaser, this is gonna be a boring season premiere. No villain, no genuine conflict, just saving Equestria from some random peril, just like the season 4 premiere.

Edited March 6, 2016 by vgmaster9

[Castle Bleck 19,390]

  On 2016-03-06 at 1:55 AM, vgmaster9 said:

Just from watching the teaser, this is gonna be a boring season premiere. No villain, no genuine conflict, just saving Equestria from some random peril, just like the season 4 premiere.

 

Technically, it was Discord again in the S4 premiere.

[Plonkett 345]

  On 2016-03-06 at 2:01 AM, A.V. said:

Technically, it was Discord again in the S4 premiere.

I mean a new villain. Discord was already reformed.

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303]

  On 2016-03-06 at 1:41 AM, Cleverclover said:

That's fair, but I haven't really seen it in this thread. I've mostly just seen a lot of concerns that sound mostly valid, but Heaven forbid anyone should have a problem with anything that happens in the show. 

I just don't understand why some members of this fandom routinely behave as though the show is being written solely with them in mind.  Or why some members of this fandom seem to think that their opinion will have any effect whatsoever on the direction that the series ultimately takes.  It might; at least to some degree.  But it's likely best that it doesn't.

 

That's the thing: Bronies are great at criticizing the show, the ponies, and everything else under the sun, but even Bronies tend to agree that they'd have no business whatsoever actually calling the shots.  Which is nigh incongruous.  "I both know what's best for the show and wouldn't touch the script with a ten foot pole; it'd be a disaster."  People are focusing less and less on the things that they actually like about the show, and that's why I think that it might simply be time for some of them to move on.

[Castle Bleck 19,390]

  On 2016-03-06 at 2:07 AM, Ziggy and Angelbaby said:

"I both know what's best for the show and wouldn't touch the script with a ten foot pole; it'd be a disaster."

 

 

Personally, I think they've had just a few too many Monster Energy drinks.

Edited March 6, 2016 by A.V.

[ManaMinori 4,146]

Maybe complainers would be happier with mlp gen 3.5 babies.

[Castle Bleck 19,390]

  On 2016-03-06 at 2:47 AM, Nightmare Muffin said:

Maybe complainers would be happier with mlp gen 3.5 babies.

 

 

Heck, maybe G3.5 was even written by a few complainers ("written" being used in the loosest possible sense, of course).

Edited March 6, 2016 by A.V.

[Luminance 2,187]

We generally overlook these things and usually focus on the bad parts. Everybody has to calm down and deal with the decisions the creator's make, good or bad. At least Mlp is still running and I'll get to see my favorite pastel colored ponies again.

[Dracu98 139]

 

 

  On 2016-03-06 at 2:14 AM, A.V. said:

Personally, I think they've had just a few too many Monster Energy drinks.

 

I've just had three of those, but I can assure you, this is not the reason I'm sceptical about the season opener from the beginning, I wasn't that excited about flurry heart. I saw her in the teaser, I raised an eyebrow, and thought "huh. well, let's see what they'll do with her. maybe chrysalis takes her as an hostage or something." but it seems like they won't do this.

 

this is one of my problems, not with flurry heart, but with the seasons start: except for starlight (who is boring as hell in my opinion), they won't bring back a villain from previous seasons, which really is a bummer, because I hoped for chrysalis to make a return. welp, maybe in the season's finale.

 

but back to flurry heart: we can already predict what this is going to be about, or at least I'm 90% sure about the plot: Flurry's powers get completely out of control, she almost destroys the crystal empire while cadance and twilight try to stop her (shining armor will probably...well, exist), and when flurry hurts cadance by accident, she suddenly wins control over her powers.

 

it's kinda hard to explain, but I think flurry heart is a bad idea. the authors have five seasons full of stuff they could work with, but instead, they are creating something new, and I'm once again unsure if this is a good idea or not. I'm trying to stay optimistic (or at least neutral), but this trailer made it pretty hard for me to do so.

[Metemponychosis 1,262]

  On 2016-03-05 at 11:52 PM, Buck Testa said:

He's thinking that Flurry Heart didn't Make the storm, the storm was already happening in that area, she caused the crystal heart to act up and thus the protection from the perpetual snowstorm went down and the Crystal empire was getting hit with it like they would be getting if it wasn't for the Crystal heart in the first place. 

 The problem is that ANYTHING that happens and that baby is involved instantly makes her a black hole sue. Honestly, I'm thinking that the storm has more to do with Starlight Glimmer's friend messing with the crystal heart and Flurry Heart is there just to sell her toy.

 

EDIT: @@Goat-kun, I wish I'd seen your post before making this one.

Edited March 6, 2016 by Metemponychosis

[Aurora Glimmer 494]

  On 2016-03-06 at 3:17 AM, Metemponychosis said:

 The problem is that ANYTHING that happens and that baby is involved instantly makes her a black hole sue. Honestly, I'm thinking that the storm has more to do with Starlight Glimmer's friend messing with the crystal heart and Flurry Heart is there just to sell her toy.

Honestly, I'd be fine if the storm happened due to Sunburst messing with the Crystal Heart. It'd certainly be more believable than the storm being caused by Flurry Heart's magic.

Edited March 6, 2016 by SiIver Spoon