the line

[~asdf~ 110]

I've seen some weird rumors about us Bronies/Pegasisters lately, apearently a Brony went on disability so he could do nothing but watch MLP all day, probably a lie but it brings up an interesting question.

 

In your eyes where would you draw the line between pony fandome, and pony obessesion, and dare I say down right disgusting? (like not doing anything that doesn't directly involve MLP)

 

Personally I don't think I would ever buy the figures or some other merch items but if they released a game for the 3DS i would get it.

 

-I should have worded this differently. Where do YOU personally draw the line. Do you just watch the show, or do you Ponify your stuff?-

Edited January 23, 2012 by asdf Firescore

[Colon Leftbracket 971]

You act like there's something WRONG with Pony Obsession?

 

Haha Don't let Fox News fool you! They're just desperate for viewers since they know that their right winged biased news shows suck!

[Ezynell 2,037]

There are people that are rediculously obsessed with thousands of different things. Don't let MLP fool you.

[Aureity 3,055]

Fox has shows like The Big Bang theory and The Office.

Therefore I support them.

[~asdf~ 110]

You act like there's something WRONG with Pony Obsession?

 

Haha Don't let Fox News fool you! They're just desperate for viewers since they know that their right winged biased news shows suck!

 

haha no I mean there has to be a piont where you have to stop right? I don't really care if anypony IS obsessed with MLP I mean I have my own obsessions but saying you can't work just to watch ponies don't you think thats a little bit overkill? just watch ponies every spare hour you have XD

 

There are people that are rediculously obsessed with thousands of different things. Don't let MLP fool you.

 

but there has to be moderation right? Cuz "clopping" should definately be over the line, at that point your removing the innocence of the show. But hey to each their own. this is why I'm asking. I'm not ridiculing, just curious.

[Fizz. 1,078]

Faux News lies for viewers, I'm pretty sure no one has done that. There isn't a line until you stop being a productive member of society, say stop working or hurting your work to watch or do ponies.

[Ezynell 2,037]

but there has to be moderation right? Cuz "clopping" should definately be over the line, at that point your removing the innocence of the show. But hey to each their own. this is why I'm asking. I'm not ridiculing, just curious.

 

You have to look at the age group of the fans. Its 14-30 for bronies, and the majority of that is teenagers. Those are the years when hormones kick in the most, also, they are also the ones with the free time and boredom to draw those sorts of pictures. It happenes in every fanbase. Rule 34 sweeps throught the internet leaving no innocence, no hope, and no exceptions.

[~asdf~ 110]

Faux News lies for viewers, I'm pretty sure no one has done that. There isn't a line until you stop being a productive member of society, say stop working or hurting your work to watch or do ponies.

 

and thats the way I veiw all fandomes I was just curious to see who shared my opinions.

 

You have to look at the age group of the fans. Its 14-30 for bronies, and the majority of that is teenagers. Those are the years when hormones kick in the most, also, they are also the ones with the free time and boredom to draw those sorts of pictures. It happenes in every fanbase. Rule 34 sweeps throught the internet leaving no innocence, no hope, and no exceptions.

 

well thats understandable and I realize that will happen, but I draw MY line before that.

To each their own, some people don't have the same limits as others this is what I'm curious about.

Rule 34 aside where would YOU personally draw the line? Would you stop at just watching the show, or would you totaly ponify your room?

[Ron Jeremy 2,032]

I'd have to draw the line at sexual content.

 

I mean, they're cartoon ponies. They're not human. I don't care what anyone says, there's something not right with that. I mean, part of what makes the series what it is is the lack of such things. I mean, the show is innocent. Anyone who wants to put x-rated content in it is strange in my opinion. It seems people who like the x-rated stuff like it because it's taking away the innocence, which is stepping awfully close to pedophile territory in my opinion.

 

Also, I've got my own not-so-little collection of merch, so...

Edited January 23, 2012 by King K. Roop

[Wonka 39]

I'd have to draw the line at sexual content.

 

I mean, they're cartoon ponies. They're not human. I don't care what anyone says, there's something not right with that. I mean, part of what makes the series what it is is the lack of such things. I mean, the show is innocent. Anyone who wants to put x-rated content in it is strange in my opinion. It seems people who like the x-rated stuff like it because it's taking away the innocence, which is stepping awfully close to pedophile territory in my opinion.

 

Also, I've got my own not-so-little collection of merch, so...

 

I agree with drawing the line at sexual content, but I don't agree with "It seems people who like the x-rated stuff like it because it's taking away the innocence, which is stepping awfully close to pedophile territory in my opinion." The people like the porno because it's their "fetish" of sorts. They could also be attracted to their human qualities. You can't blame someone for being them and liking rule 34 poni stuff. I think it comes down to "I don't like what you like, but I won't stop you from liking it, or be different towards you for liking it. As long as you don't force your stuff down other people's throats, we'll be fine."

[~asdf~ 110]

I'd have to draw the line at sexual content.

 

I mean, they're cartoon ponies. They're not human. I don't care what anyone says, there's something not right with that. I mean, part of what makes the series what it is is the lack of such things. I mean, the show is innocent. Anyone who wants to put x-rated content in it is strange in my opinion. It seems people who like the x-rated stuff like it because it's taking away the innocence, which is stepping awfully close to pedophile territory in my opinion.

 

Also, I've got my own not-so-little collection of merch, so...

 

I agree, it's the innocence of the show that made love it. as for merch Iwouldn't buy any NOW but I tend to be fickle with stuff like that

[Colon Leftbracket 971]

I say I draw the line when MLP is interfering and overpowering my personal life!

 

I also draw the line when a fan becomes so obsessed with the show he attacks those who have a different opinion! That isn't quite Love and Tolerance!

[1Fluttershy 411]

I don't have any "line" for how much a person should like the show. A few people becoming "too obsessed" with the show doesn't affect me or the majority of society, so I really couldn't care less.

 

I'd have to draw the line at sexual content.

 

I mean, they're cartoon ponies. They're not human.

With that logic, couldn't someone make the argument that they're not real ponies either?

 

I don't care what anyone says, there's something not right with that. I mean, part of what makes the series what it is is the lack of such things. I mean, the show is innocent. Anyone who wants to put x-rated content in it is strange in my opinion.

Doesn't sound very loving and tolerating to me, especially since that type of content will never be canon with the actual show :/

 

It seems people who like the x-rated stuff like it because it's taking away the innocence, which is stepping awfully close to pedophile territory in my opinion.

 

I thought we were talking about ponies, not children?

[Stoner Spike 185]

Where the line should be for anyone should be at sexual content, as King said. I mean really, that's plain WRONG, they're animated PONIES for Christ's sake.

 

That said, I'd completely "ponify" my things if I had the cash.

[Colon Leftbracket 971]

I agree with drawing the line at sexual content, but I don't agree with "It seems people who like the x-rated stuff like it because it's taking away the innocence, which is stepping awfully close to pedophile territory in my opinion." The people like the porno because it's their "fetish" of sorts. They could also be attracted to their human qualities. You can't blame someone for being them and liking rule 34 poni stuff. I think it comes down to "I don't like what you like, but I won't stop you from liking it, or be different towards you for liking it. As long as you don't force your stuff down other people's throats, we'll be fine."

 

This...

 

Hell even I myself enjoy some less-graphic shipping every once in a while. Though once things get a little too graphic I tend to look the other way. "Not my thing but if you like it then go ahead, who am I to stop you!"

[~asdf~ 110]

D: I think I brought up a Touchy topic. maybe we should try to tone it down a bit? Rule 34 is taboo and we all have mixed feelings of it lets just stick to the question of ponifying.

[Ron Jeremy 2,032]

I don't have any "line" for how much a person should like the show. A few people becoming "too obsessed" with the show doesn't affect me or the majority of society, so I really couldn't care less.

 

 

 

With that logic, couldn't someone make the argument that they're not real ponies either?

 

 

 

Doesn't sound very loving and tolerating to me, especially since that type of content will never be canon with the actual show :/

 

 

 

I thought we were talking about ponies, not children?

 

 

1: The point I was making is, ponies aren't human. Showing attraction of -that- sort towards anything that is not a human being is never normal.

 

2: Just because it'll never be canon doesn't make it pleasant.

 

3: I know we're talking about ponies and not children, but the whole "gaining pleasure from stealing innocent" is a pedophilia thing. And since the show in question is rated Y7.....

 

X-rated pony content is disturbing, and a lot of non-bronies judge the fandom based on said disturbing content.

 

Nonetheless, to lighten up the topic: I think someone spending thousands of dollars on MLP stuff could be considered obsession, especially if they're spending so much they can't afford things they need.

[Lady Rarity Pony 4,892]

I don't really have a "line" as to when I can like the show to much. I'm into the show enough that many would consider my liking of the show an "obsession". I don't consider it an obsession. As long as I'm not neglecting life outside of ponies, then I'm fine.

I'd have to draw the line at sexual content.

 

I mean, they're cartoon ponies. They're not human. I don't care what anyone says, there's something not right with that. I mean, part of what makes the series what it is is the lack of such things. I mean, the show is innocent. Anyone who wants to put x-rated content in it is strange in my opinion. It seems people who like the x-rated stuff like it because it's taking away the innocence, which is stepping awfully close to pedophile territory in my opinion.

 

Also, I've got my own not-so-little collection of merch, so...

 

Well first off is that I don't think that's going into pedophile territory. It's ponies, not children, the only way I would consider the enjoyment of X-rated pony content as "pedophile like" is if someone is getting their satisfaction from canon or fanon characters that would be considered "children".

I'm not into R34 stuff but I don't see too much of a problem if someone is into it. Depends really on exactly what R34 stuff they are looking at. Clopfics, shipfics, I don't see much of a problem with those as long as younger characters that may be classified as "children" are not included.

While I don't disapprove of these, I do believe these things should be done in private (where it's no one's buisiness).

 

1: The point I was making is, ponies aren't human. Showing attraction of -that- sort towards anything that is not a human being is never normal.

 

2: Just because it'll never be canon doesn't make it pleasant.

 

3: I know we're talking about ponies and not children, but the whole "gaining pleasure from stealing innocent" is a pedophilia thing. And since the show in question is rated Y7.....

 

X-rated pony content is disturbing, and a lot of non-bronies judge the fandom based on said disturbing content.

 

Nonetheless, to lighten up the topic: I think someone spending thousands of dollars on MLP stuff could be considered obsession, especially if they're spending so much they can't afford things they need.

 

MLP ponies are given humanised features and human personalities. Attractions and infatuations with these kinds are characters is not exactly uncommon.

Here's a good place to look for further explanation on that first statement.

http://mlpforums.com/topic/4595-pony-romance-why-who/

 

It's never gonna be pleasant to anyone who is not into it. As long as it's done privately, it should not matter.

No offense but your idea of people looking at R34 ponies because they like "gaining pleasure from stealing innocence" is a bit wrong and seems like more of an assumption.

[Wonka 39]

I don't really have a "line" as to when I can like the show to much. I'm into the show enough that many would consider my liking of the show an "obsession". I don't consider it an obsession. As long as I'm not neglecting life outside of ponies, then I'm fine.

 

Well first off is that I don't think that's going into pedophile territory. It's ponies, not children, the only way I would consider the enjoyment of X-rated pony content as "pedophile like" is if someone is getting their satisfaction from canon or fanon characters that would be considered "children".

I'm not into R34 stuff but I don't see too much of a problem if someone is into it. Depends really on exactly what R34 stuff they are looking at. Clopfics, shipfics, I don't see much of a problem with those as long as younger characters that may be classified as "children" are not included.

While I don't disapprove of these, I do believe these things should be done in private (where it's no one's buisiness).

 

 

MLP ponies are given humanised features and human personalities. Attractions and infatuations with these kinds are characters is not exactly uncommon.

Here's a good place to look for further explanation on that first statement.

http://mlpforums.com...omance-why-who/

 

It's never gonna be pleasant to anyone who is not into it. As long as it's done privately, it should not matter.

No offense but your idea of people looking at R34 ponies because they like "gaining pleasure from stealing innocence" is a bit wrong and seems like more of an assumption.

 

This, but to add to it...

 

X-rated pony content is disturbing, and a lot of non-bronies judge the fandom based on said disturbing content.

 

 

You can't stop the porno from being made, and you can't stop the people from using the minority and stigmas as an excuse to hate someone or something. The best thing to do is to let the cloppers do their thing, and use love and toleration for the rest, and using force ONLY when needed.

 

2: Just because it'll never be canon doesn't make it pleasant.

 

 

Just be happy that these things that you hate aren't official, and even though they might not be pleasent, you don't have to worry about their canons. Again, let the cloppers do their thing, and avoid the fics and whatnot if you don't like them.

Edited January 24, 2012 by Wonka

[Kyreth 194]

I have no problems with the stuff some other people are into. Rule 34, gore, all that stuff you hear about, its all good as long as I can choose not to see it.

 

A lot of people think I'm weird for liking ponies. I consider that wrong. If I called people weird for 'like' liking ponies or liking to see ponies getting cut up I would be a massive hypocrite. To each their own.

 

As for my personal line, I wouldn't go to the extent of buying toys and stuff but that's mostly because I don't like the designs and don't want to spend the money. Truthfully, if someone came to my house while I was away and filled my room with toys and posters I would be pretty damn happy.

 

That probably wasn't helpful. What I'm trying to say is that I don't have a line. There's nothing I would consider obsession and nothing that I would call wrong. There are however a few things that are against my personal taste.

 

That stuff Fox news said about the bronies on disability? I don't believe a single word of that. I watched a Fox interview a while ago on the game Mass Effect. I know Mass Effect and I know that their complaints about it were entirely based on lies and misinformation. Now I feel no reason to believe what they say.

[Ron Jeremy 2,032]

@People who replied to me but I won't quote because this post would be huge if I did: I know you can't stop x-rated content from being made, but that doesn't mean I have to be a fan of it. I never said a person shouldn't be allowed to enjoy such things, I just stated my opinion that I personally find it strange, and that I believe that enjoying such things is when it becomes an unhealthy obsession. And for the record, if disturbing fan content stayed hidden, I wouldn't care about it. But it doesn't. It gets mentioned frequently, such as that one fanfic that shares it's name with a type of baked good, which is brought up a lot.

**drops topic to prevent further derailment**

With that said, I think someone truly obsessed with the show would be a person who never, ever stops talking about it, who has to relate every aspect of their life to ponies. Pony tattoos, the stereotypical living in their mother's basement, caring more about the characters than real people, etc. I know other fandoms have people like this, and I think it's a safe bet this one has a few.

Edited January 24, 2012 by King K. Roop

[D1st0rtedFate 9]

Until you start harming yourself, other people, or functioning society, I see no reason for there to be a line.

 

MERCHMERCHMERCH

[Arylett Charnoa 4,919]

I have a rather easily crossed line. When it starts to get sexual, for instance. Although that line is somewhat looser for me. Somewhat. And seems understandable, if strange and somewhat unfortunate that Rule 34 even exists in the first place. What concerns me more is the graphic/gory aspects of pony fandom. That is where I will cross the line. Ponies being dismembered violently in bloodbaths will never be something I can understand how others can like. (Honestly, I'll never understand it even if it involves human beings or anything else) But to each their own.

 

Also, I find buying lots of pony merchandise to the point where it's like a crack addiction to be crossing the line... and I find it really rather strange in the first place that people ship ponies together or have an infatuation to them. But I can tolerate that. It just lurches rather uncomfortably towards my line.

 

And obviously, of course, to the point where you eat, sleep, and breathe ponies and nothing in life means anything to you but ponies and it's starting to affect your health. That is definitely waaaay beyond my line.

 

Please don't jump on me for my opinions, by the way. Yes, I know there's some of you who do these things. And I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying it makes me kind of uncomfortable. But I'll look the other way. I mean, it doesn't affect me.

[Evilshy 5,090]

I honestly don't understand why people care what other people get off to. Unless it's child porn or something illegal, does it matter? It's not like everybody who has ever clopped to MLP R34 is some creepy pedo.

 

I see judging somebody for what they masturbate to as bad as judging somebody for their sexual preference.

[Big Bill Hell 123]

Anyways, to answer your question: i wouldnt draw a line because if thats what they wanna do and if it makes them happy, then who am i to say their a living their life wrong?

Edited March 10, 2012 by Tumorfist