Regarding Ted Anderson - IDW Comics

[Andaasonsan 3,205]

Okay, so far from the interview he gave and the preview pages that have been posted, the comic does not seem to have ANYTHING to do with Ted Anderson or this incident.

 

It's just about High School kids and cyber bullying.

 

So there is no reason to pre-emptively judge him for it.

 

There might be a bit of cognitive dissonance going on with Ted, but otherwise it seems to be a good message.

[Thrashy 2,800]

Okay, so far from the interview he gave and the preview pages that have been posted, the comic does not seem to have ANYTHING to do with Ted Anderson or this incident.

 

It's just about High School kids and cyber bullying.

 

So there is no reason to pre-emptively judge him for it.

 

There might be a bit of cognitive dissonance going on with Ted, but otherwise it seems to be a good message.

 

So the fact that he's been lambasted from every conceivable angle for his radical viewpoints is insufficient basis to surmise that he'll undergo the very same "poor me!" mentality that every intellectually bankrupt charlatan with a radical agenda undergoes? Intriguing.

[EquestriaGuy 1,074]

Kinda disappointed that we're still apparently doing this, instead of moving on, as we should. Even if he does find like-minded company with the extremists of the SJW agenda, going after his job is, in spirit, hateful, and a distraction from the purpose of this fandom. Hate the guy all you want, but leave him and his bosses alone.

 

Plus, by actually engaging in this war against them (the SJWs), you're validating in their minds their own self righteousness, and giving them a reason to become even more shrill and abusive. I've seen enough of that garbage with how bullying they've become towards #NotYourShield. You want to win this? Ignore them. They have their corner of the internet, they have their corner of the fandom, and no one has to listen to their garbage, but apparently we feel the need to drag them back into the spotlight time and time again, and give them the audience that gets them out of bed in the morning. It's what they want. This is what they want. Stop giving it to them. They want you to not pick your battles, so again, stop giving them what they want.

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

Kinda disappointed that we're still apparently doing this, instead of moving on, as we should. Even if he does find like-minded company with the extremists of the SJW agenda, going after his job is, in spirit, hateful, and a distraction from the purpose of this fandom. Hate the guy all you want, but leave him and his bosses alone.

 

Plus, by actually engaging in this war against them (the SJWs), you're validating in their minds their own self righteousness, and giving them a reason to become even more shrill and abusive. I've seen enough of that garbage with how bullying they've become towards #NotYourShield. You want to win this? Ignore them. They have their corner of the internet, they have their corner of the fandom, and no one has to listen to their garbage, but apparently we feel the need to drag them back into the spotlight time and time again, and give them the audience that gets them out of bed in the morning. It's what they want. This is what they want. Stop giving it to them. They want you to not pick your battles, so again, stop giving them what they want.

 

The main thing I'm mad about over everything else is how disrespectful it is to Lauren to be letting someone like him push an agenda she's against with a property she created. 

[EquestriaGuy 1,074]

The main thing I'm mad about over everything else is how disrespectful it is to Lauren to be letting someone like him push an agenda she's against with a property she created. 

Besides the cameo, which I'm sure will never happen again, the only "agenda pushing" he's doing is within his own SJW echo chamber. It's not like he's proselytizing. Like I said, let them wring their wrists and shout about evil bronies and their evil peepees, as long as it's done where only they will hear it, and by dragging it to the main page of EQD, and every pony forum in the fandom, we're doing the exact opposite of that.

[JESmith 69]

Bobby Curnow has confirmed that Anderson was never fired:

 

 

Source: http://boards.idwpublishing.com/3/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=12770&sid=565dd4d35f1c207cb5b205d786df691f&start=1650#p382519

[Andaasonsan 3,205]

So the fact that he's been lambasted from every conceivable angle for his radical viewpoints is insufficient basis to surmise that he'll undergo the very same "poor me!" mentality that every intellectually bankrupt charlatan with a radical agenda undergoes? Intriguing.

Maybe he will. I don't know. But we shouldn't be mad at him for stuff he potentially could do.

[Shadowking58 1,137]

I'm kinda glad he wasn't fired, otherwise, we wouldn't have the amazing 11th issue of My Little Pony Friends Forever.

[Kuyon 43]

I had no idea of this drama until about 1 hour ago.  I did some research on what was said and I will admit I don't fully understand what is going on but from what I do..  The OC was from a "hateful person(s)" who have been anti men, brony etc.  That is unfortunate really.  I highly do not agree with that line of thinking.  As for the writer's response.  I disagree with this opinions that he posted.  (not mentioning any here because I am not opening up that can of fish.)  His views do see incredibly short and one sided though.  I honestly don't think he mean any harm by including the OC nor was he advocating any of that stuff by including the OC.  While it doesn't make it okay or right the drama seems to be so much worse than it should be on both sides.

Edited November 14, 2014 by Kuyon

[Nuke87654 1,849]

I had no idea of this drama until about 1 hour ago.  I did some research on what was said and I will admit I don't fully understand what is going on but from what I do..  The OC was from a "hateful person(s)" who have been anti men, brony etc.  That is unfortunate really.  I highly do not agree with that line of thinking.  As for the writer's response.  I disagree with this opinions that he posted.  (not mentioning any here because I am not opening up that can of fish.)  His views do see incredibly short and one sided though.  I honestly don't think he mean any harm by including the OC nor was he advocating any of that stuff by including the OC.  While it doesn't make it okay or right the drama seems to be so much worse than it should be on both sides.

 

If it weren't for the fact we've heard from the person who made the OC for Ted Anderson to draw down bragging about how an IDW staff emailed to her that 'Bronies are gross' in her words, then I probably give a benefit of a doubt he might be a short sided fool. But thanks to that, I'm convinced he really doesn't like the audience for the comics and that's before this event happened. Now that Mr. Curnow doesn't want to fire him and we're going to get a comic that details about Cyber Bullying, I'm worried he's going to turn his issues into a mouthpiece for his views. If that happens, IDW's relationship with Bronies will only get worse then it already is.

Edited November 14, 2014 by Nuke87654

[~StatesTheOblivious~ 1,795]

*sees recent development in this case*

 

IDW ...

 

 

... Seriously.

 

I guess it's ... money. Yep. Gotta be money. No "moral integrity", corporate ethos or support for his views and actions. It'd be funny if it wasn't that sad. After all, nothing's more satirical than reality itself, but this is just one of the many things I see and don't even get actually upset about anymore. It's simply too much after some years ...

Edited November 14, 2014 by ~StatesTheOblivious~

[The Coffee Pony 1,390]

Whether or not you think it's wrong to criticize him for what he can potentially do, you have to admit that it's rather odd of him to write a comic about cyberbullying when he supports and promotes known cyberbullies!!

Edited November 15, 2014 by The Coffee Pony

[Wind Chaser 4,768]

I've said this before and I'll say it again, short and concise, to those people who are defending him because it's his opinion.

 

It's one thing for it to be his opinion. But he used official franchise resources to promote the images of people who align with a hateful and discriminatory agenda. This is against the core values of the franchise and those of Hasbro, and this is why something needs to be done about it.

 

If they didn't fire him, I agree that they should have at least warned him about it.

[Zekromic 1,054]

Ah, so now ol' Teddy's taking the Anita Sarkeesian approach:

 

Criticism in any form = Cyberbullying

 

Remember, kids: Always go through life expecting no rebuttals to anything you say, no matter how reprehensible the worldviews you put forth really are. If anyone ever tells you that your arguments are based on strawmen, double standards and fallacies galore...they're just a TROLL and a BULLY.

 

Well, he's really a victim, as you are directly attacking him and IDW, and THAT'S cyberbullying. there are other ways to approach the matter, but you were led by an irrational hate. Seriously guys, you are playing the same game as that woman,  geez 

Edited November 15, 2014 by Zekromic

[Megas 27,557]

In regards to DragonDicks

 

[Zekromic 1,054]

 

I've said it before, I'll say it again:

 

Ted Anderson is a dumb person with dumb opinions. But I'll be damned if the correct response is to ruin the man's life over it. I support IDW for letting him keep his job. The man just wants to write some fucking comics, and there isn't a fucking thing wrong with that. I supported Orson Scott Card when his politics threatened his livelihood, and Ted Anderson is no different.

 

I will not support any boycott, any censorship brigade, or any angry mobs with torches and pitchforks. He is an honest man with an honest job, and he's apparently damn good at that job. His twisted politics are his own business.

Yep, his political point of view are rather stupid, but that doesn't give us right to to decide if he keeps working or not. Besides, he exposed his views BECAUSE WE FORCED HIM TO, and overall, it's our fault that this escalated at the point it is now, if we could just kept criticizing, instead of outright cyberbullying, it would have ended much sooner   

 

I guess it depends on how big of a deal what he did is to you.

I was very tempted to not see the Enders Game movie, even though I loved the books, because I had found out about his politics and they really bugged me. What Ted did doesn't big me as much as Card's contributions to the anti LGBT cause, so in think of picking up the Spitfire comic. Long as he keeps his politics out if it. He is a pretty good writer, after all.

I hope IDW at least chewed him out, though.

Obviously he got reprimanded, just don't expect a video of it

 

Kinda disappointed that we're still apparently doing this, instead of moving on, as we should. Even if he does find like-minded company with the extremists of the SJW agenda, going after his job is, in spirit, hateful, and a distraction from the purpose of this fandom. Hate the guy all you want, but leave him and his bosses alone.

 

Plus, by actually engaging in this war against them (the SJWs), you're validating in their minds their own self righteousness, and giving them a reason to become even more shrill and abusive. I've seen enough of that garbage with how bullying they've become towards #NotYourShield. You want to win this? Ignore them. They have their corner of the internet, they have their corner of the fandom, and no one has to listen to their garbage, but apparently we feel the need to drag them back into the spotlight time and time again, and give them the audience that gets them out of bed in the morning. It's what they want. This is what they want. Stop giving it to them. They want you to not pick your battles, so again, stop giving them what they want.

Sorry, couldn't resist  . Anyway, I'm amazed these people who basically want Ted dead don't realize they are not only validating the minds of those radical people, but becoming like them 

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

Well, he's really a victim, as you are directly attacking him and IDW, and THAT'S cyberbullying. there are other ways to approach the matter, but you were led by an irrational hate. Seriously guys, you are playing the same game as that woman,  geez 

 

No, we're speaking rationally about why we think it was wrong while she responds to everything with "ew, boys have cooties and bronies are stupid doodie heads" instead of giving rational reasons for her statements.  

 

I also don't recall anyone here threatening him, just saying we don't think he should be working on this comic anymore. 

Edited November 15, 2014 by Shoboni

[Zekromic 1,054]

No, we're speaking rationally about why we think it was wrong while she responds to everything with "ew, boys have cooties and bronies are stupid doodie heads" instead of giving rational reasons for her statements.  

 

I also don't recall anyone here threatening him, just saying we don't think he should be working on this comic anymore. 

OK, if that's whatever she calls herself modus operandi, then I'm afraid most of you are worse than her. Why? well you can't compare your cyberbullying nor your desire to ruin Anderson's life with her petty insults  . And while some of you are speaking rationally, you're not ACTING rationally. Hell, you're practically going Kefka "HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE" with Catastrophe as the background music

Edited November 15, 2014 by Zekromic

[Wind Chaser 4,768]

Want to see a rational argument? Maybe you probably didn't read hard enough already. So I'll say it again. The issue is the promotion of a hateful and discriminatory viewpoint through media aimed at doing the exact opposite.

 

It reflects terribly on the rep of not only Ted and IDW, but the My Little Pony IP and by association, Hasbro itself. It unfortunately calls into question their laissez-faire practices of creative freedom if they do not acknowledge a negative message promoted in one of their properties, and it unfortunately makes everyone over Ted's head guilty by association of hypocrisy for doing nothing about this.

[EpitomeOfTruth 243]

Why can't we just forgive and forget? It's been stated that it won't happen again, so I honestly can't see why there's still an issue.

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

OK, if that's whatever she calls herself modus operandi, then I'm afraid most of you are worse than her. Why? well you can't compare your cyberbullying nor your desire to ruin Anderson's life with her petty insults  . And while some of you are speaking rationally, you're not ACTING rationally. 

 

Uh, saying he should have repercussions for his actions and at at least be transferred to a different book isn't "ruining his life". He's a grown ass man that's worked in the industry for years and he should've known known better. Now he needs to deal with the results of his actions and poor choices even if it means he doesn't get to write for this particular book anymore(or at least has a closer eye kept on him and stricter review of his work)

Edited November 15, 2014 by Shoboni

[Nuke87654 1,849]

In regards to DragonDicks

 

 

Not pleased with them and still won't buy their comics, but at least it's some compromise if it's backed up that he won't use the MLP comics as his voice box for his opinions.

Edited November 15, 2014 by Nuke87654

[Kuyon 43]

If it weren't for the fact we've heard from the person who made the OC for Ted Anderson to draw down bragging about how an IDW staff emailed to her that 'Bronies are gross' in her words, then I probably give a benefit of a doubt he might be a short sided fool. But thanks to that, I'm convinced he really doesn't like the audience for the comics and that's before this event happened. Now that Mr. Curnow doesn't want to fire him and we're going to get a comic that details about Cyber Bullying, I'm worried he's going to turn his issues into a mouthpiece for his views. If that happens, IDW's relationship with Bronies will only get worse then it already is.

Was there a legit picture of said email if not then its likely not true.  From what I have gathered about the owner of the OC they are an attention seeker and something like that would so fall into that category of something they would do.  ^^

[Nuke87654 1,849]

Was there a legit picture of said email if not then its likely not true.  From what I have gathered about the owner of the OC they are an attention seeker and something like that would so fall into that category of something they would do.  ^^

 

Considering how he knew DD and put her OC in the comic along with another anti brony OC as well, his adamant defense for DD and calling her offensive misandry as 'jokes', him spewing off his own brand of misandry and other racist remarks on Round Stable, and finally she said the message was from an IDW personal, occam's razor says the possibility is pretty strong it was him even without direct evidence to say who it was.

Edited November 15, 2014 by Nuke87654

[Zekromic 1,054]

Uh, saying he should have repercussions for his actions and at at least be transferred to a different book isn't "ruining his life". He's a grown ass man that's worked in the industry for years and he should've known known better. Now he needs to deal with the results of his actions and poor choices even if it means he doesn't get to write for this particular book anymore(or at least has a closer eye kept on him and stricter review of his work)

Well, most comments where demanding him to be fired. Oh, and you don't need to be a genius to know that he got reprimanded. there's no need to go further

 

 

 

Want to see a rational argument? Maybe you probably didn't read hard enough already. So I'll say it again. The issue is the promotion of a hateful and discriminatory viewpoint through media aimed at doing the exact opposite.

 

He never did such a thing, he just put an OC belonging to a person who happens to support said hateful views, you're the ones claiming to do that, nothing more. The ONLY promotion of HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE I've ever seen in this matter is yours