Which pony least lives up to her element?

[Derpy Dash 233]

Either Applejack or Rarity.

 

I would also say Rainbow Dash, but she hasn't been given very many opportunities to prove her loyalty.

[Razputin 7]

I agree with Bowser although I still love Rarity.

Although Rainbow Dash is loyal sometimes, having to pull that carriage when chasing AJ would have been a pain for me, fluttershy needs credit for that too though.

[pinkiefan1287 610]

Rarity

[Sunphoenix 8]

I'd say Rarity or Applejack, but they have the most difficult element to maintain. Loyalty is also pretty hard to maintain, but not nearly as hard as those two. So my vote goes to nopony. :3

[Matus 130]

lol so many votes on rarity, heres another.

 

Really, she is the most obvious when it comes to "acting out of her element."

 

but she's still my second favorite...

Edited July 22, 2012 by Matus

[Cherry Blossom 864]

I would say Rarity because she took a red gem from Spike. I would also think Fluttershy mainly because she yelled at children during Nightmare Night. And maybe Applejack because she lied to Pinkie Pie about remodeling her barn or something.

[Unexard 50]

I'll vote Rainbow Dash instead of Rarity anyday. Why? Because being generous isn't about not thinking about yourself, it's thinking about others WHILE you think about yourself. Being always "no okay I give it to you, it's fine" lead you NOWHERE in life (a.k.a: Fluttershy, who never takes what she wants and end up being pushed around and psychologically hurt). And even then, there is plenty of time when she is more generous than anypony else (tried to help when there was a storm / making gala dresses for free. Do you have any idea how much cost a handmade "sur mesure" gala dress? Easily around 700 to 1000 dollars. Now multiply that by 6.)

 

Then you have rainbow dash, the so called element of loyalty. And what does this element of loyalty do? Oh, nothing... AND THAT'S THE POINT! When people are working hard, she is "busy napping", when twilight calls for help in lesson zero and at the first part of season 2 finale, the element of loyalty doesn't give a flying feather about her. I can understand the others, but why is a pony with "Loyalty" as a special talent not even more loyal than the other ones? She cares more about the wonderbolts than her friends, wow, here is the loyalty eh?

Edited July 22, 2012 by Unexard

[ThatGuyWhoAteTheCookies 51]

I have seen in YouTube comments, RD Network threads and other places that people think that Rarity is not often portrayed as very generous, even though generosity is her element. There are many examples that show how wrong this is, such as how she made dresses for her friends to go to The Gala, but I just want to here you guys' opinion on this.

[NavelColt 22,879]

There's an entire thread called 'Which of the Mane 6 do you believe least represents their element?'. Rarity dominates the polls to this day, I believe.

 

Eh. She's a complex character. I won't call her out, I am not going to debate with Rarity fans at 8 in the morning, but I will certainly say she's not one of the top characters to display their element consistently.

[Jokuc 8,173]

Well I know what you mean. She doesn't really show that much generosity in the show but as you said, she is actually making dresses for everypony and well she cut off her tail in episode two to fix Steven Magnet's moustache.

Edited July 27, 2012 by Mr. Pillow

[Titan Rising 2,156]

I think real generosity is a much harder thing to display than some of the other elements, especially in a world where it doesn't really seem like anyone is poor... I agree with you that she shows it making dresses for her friends and stuff, but I do think she could use a couple episodes to really show her element more.

 

Things like her asking for spikes gem and catching the bouquet of flowers at the canterlot wedding don't contradict her element in my opinion either. That's like saying she's not allowed to participate in events or like things lol.

[Motion Spark 7,807]

here we go again, We had like 2 topics about this same "problem" with Rarity and her generosity element and both topics end up locked because it caused a mild flamewar. I noticed that many people in here dislikes Rarity but they can't see past her diva attitude. She is such a complex, deep character who needs to get more evaluated and analyzed by the people who dislikes her. I just gonna say that she perfectly fits that element

[NavelColt 22,879]

Things like her asking for spikes gem and catching the bouquet of flowers at the canterlot wedding don't contradict her element in my opinion either. That's like saying she's not allowed to participate in events or like things lol.

 

I say they contradict her element, but that it doesn't count against her, and in fact, is a pro to her. All six of the main characters do plenty of things that are utterly contrary to their element, because if they were perfect, the show would be boring. I agree with you that generosity may be a tricky thing to show sometimes, but other times, it's also fairly simple.

[PonyEcho 1,610]

well you need to understand that the mane six dont always have to live up to the elements because if they did they would be cardboard cutout charactor and would like be more like the older genertations.

[Titan Rising 2,156]

I say they contradict her element, but that it doesn't count against her, and in fact, is a pro to her. All six of the main characters do plenty of things that are utterly contrary to their element, because if they were perfect, the show would be boring. I agree with you that generosity may be a tricky thing to show sometimes, but other times, it's also fairly simple.

 

Can you give some examples of times when others contradict their elements? I don't think they're meant to be perfect, but they're meant to be perfect to their own elements.

 

Not counting Fluttershy because I don't want to get into why I disagree that her overassertiveness doesn't contradict her element lol

[NavelColt 22,879]

Can you give some examples of times when others contradict their elements? I don't think they're meant to be perfect, but they're meant to be perfect to their own elements.

 

Not counting Fluttershy because I don't want to get into why I disagree that her overassertiveness doesn't contradict her element lol

 

Not at eight in the morning when I haven't slept, no xP Can't list specific events right now. They do exist throughout the show though. They may not be blatant all the time, but nonetheless there.

[PonyEcho 1,610]

Can you give some examples of times when others contradict their elements? I don't think they're meant to be perfect, but they're meant to be perfect to their own elements.

 

Not counting Fluttershy because I don't want to get into why I disagree that her overassertiveness doesn't contradict her element lol

 

Applejack lieing to Pinkie Pie in Party of one

Pinkie Pies metal brake down, along with every time she isnt laughing in the show, her crying and getting angry count

RainbowDashes behavour in Mysterious Mard do'well

FlutterShy in putting your hoof down (yes that one count because her over assertiveness led her her being the opposite of kindness)

Twilight cant break her element

 

despite Raritys faluts she still made dresses fpr her friend free of charge and even cater to there own designes, chose between her friends rather then fame, hell people say she munipulated spike for the fire ruby but that would mean she had to try and ask for it.

and people calling her out on catching the bukay, i've been at weddings that does happen

 

get some rest dude, i got this Edited July 27, 2012 by PonyEcho

[Key Gear 6,663]

Can you give some examples of times when others contradict their elements? I don't think they're meant to be perfect, but they're meant to be perfect to their own elements.

 

Twilight Sparkle - Element of magic. Went nuts in Lesson Zero. Used magic to help herself instead of explaining the situation to her friends.

 

Pinkie Pie - Element of laughter. Party of One. Not much else needs to be said.

 

Applejack - Element of honesty. Went through great lengths to avoid telling her friends the truth in The Last Roundup.

 

Rainbow Dash - Element of loyalty. Fall Weather Friends. A few other episodes as well. Struggles with balancing her strong personality against the needs of her friends on a fairly consistent basis.

 

Fluttershy - Element of kindness. You may believe that her over assertiveness does not impact her element, and I respect that. However, there was indeed a moment that that she was decisively unkind. And quite a bit much so.

 

Allowing the mane 6 to struggle with their element is a fairly common device throughout this series. That is why the show was interesting. If all of the characters stuck rigidly to perfect adherence with their element, then that would be boring.

 

Rarity is a very complex character. Expecting her, as the element of generosity, to be a meek character that just gives, gives, and gives would not be a realistic portrayal. Every single character on the show has at one point or another deviated from perfection. That's what makes the show interesting.

 

On the subject of Rarity, I have written the following posts in the past defending her character:

• http://mlpforums.com...ke/#entry259990
• http://mlpforums.com...ke/#entry260043
• http://mlpforums.com..._80#entry161493

To me, Rarity is greatly underrated. She is a character that is often disliked reflexively because of her perceived “upper-class” attitude (and other character flaws). In reality, without Rarity, the show would not nearly be so interesting. Check out the following discussion: http://mlpforums.com...e-best-cartoon/ Edited July 27, 2012 by Scootacool

[Titan Rising 2,156]

 

 

Applejack lieing to Pinkie Pie in Party of one

Pinkie Pies metal brake down, along with every time she isnt laughing in the show, her crying and getting angry count

RainbowDashes behavour in Mysterious Mard do'well

FlutterShy in putting your hoof down (yes that one count because her over assertiveness led her her being the opposite of kindness)

Twilight cant break her element

 

despite Raritys faluts she still made dresses fpr her friend free of charge and even cater to there own designes, chose between her friends rather then fame, hell people say she munipulated spike for the fire ruby but that would mean she had to try and ask for it.

and people calling her out on catching the bukay, i've been at weddings that does happen

 

get some rest dude, i got this

 

 

 

 

Twilight Sparkle - Element of magic. Went nuts in Lesson Zero. Used magic to help herself instead of explaining the situation to her friends.

 

Pinkie Pie - Element of laughter. Party of One. Not much else needs to be said.

 

Applejack - Element of honesty. Went through great lengths to avoid telling her friends the truth in The Last Roundup.

 

Rainbow Dash - Element of loyalty. Fall Weather Friends. A few other episodes as well. Struggles with balancing her strong personality against the needs of her friends on a fairly consistent basis.

 

Fluttershy - Element of kindness. You may believe that her over assertiveness does not impact her element, and I respect that. However, there was indeed a moment that that she was decisively unkind. And quite a bit much so.

 

Allowing the mane 6 to struggle with their element is a fairly common device throughout this series. That is why the show was interesting. If all of the characters stuck rigidly to perfect adherence with their element, then that would be boring.

 

Rarity is a very complex character. Expecting her, as the element of generosity, to be a meek character that just gives, gives, and gives would not be a realistic portrayal. Every single character on the show has at one point or another deviated from perfection. That's what makes the show interesting.

 

On the subject of Rarity, I have written the following posts in the past defending her character:

• http://mlpforums.com...ke/#entry259990
• http://mlpforums.com...ke/#entry260043
• http://mlpforums.com..._80#entry161493

To me, Rarity is greatly underrated. She is a character that is often disliked reflexively because of her perceived “upper-class” attitude (and other character flaws). In reality, without Rarity, the show would not nearly be so interesting. Check out the following discussion: http://mlpforums.com...e-best-cartoon/

 

 

 

I don't see how that contradicts Twilight's element at all

 

Applejack would have to lie to contradict her element, she doesn't do that in either episodes so I would say that's out.

 

Not sure I would say Pinky Pie's element means she can't be sad... I think it tends to mean she finds the best in situations, and schizophrenia was the best she could make of that particular situation lol

 

For Rainbow Dash to contradict her element I think she would knowingly have to abandon her friends. Sometimes her ego gets the better of her and she thinks of herself above others in the heat of competition, but I would not say that means she is in any way disloyal to her friends

 

I think Fluttershy receives the same criticism that Rarity receives in that in order to live up to her element ponies can demand things of her, and I don't think this is the case, so I'm just gonna leave it at that.

 

There are a lot of reasons why I dislike Rarity, mostly cause of the whole upperclass thing which I just think is obnoxious for anyone to want to aspire to be like, but I definitely wouldn't say she's not generous

 

Well make what you want of this post, I'm just gonna leave it at that cause I feel like if I continue my posts will be hidden for off topic

Edited July 27, 2012 by Hollowshield

[ThatGuyWhoAteTheCookies 51]

Rarity just lacks frequent proof that her element is generosity. The only thing that really supports her element besides the first two episodes was the time she made dresses for the other five main characters. Other than that, not many generous acts are performed by Rarity, which is why she gets so much crap about not being generous enough.

[kirbyboi 588]

I think Rarity shows her element one way or another. Not all the time, but she could be generous if she wanted to. Honestly, I think Applejack isn't honest most of the time as well. Maybe the two should be switched?

 

But although they all may not seem to show their elements, they do in some special way.

 

 

Rarity worked so hard to make dresses for her friends in one episode. In another, she offers Twilight her umbrella to protect her from the rain. So, she is generous, however she and Applejack may not show their element much.

 

As for Pinkie, I think it means that she is always keeping her friends laughing and always looks at the bright side of things. She makes parties, cheers them up when their sad, and makes them happy.

[CommadorTheCyborgPony 53]

To be honest Rarity is NOT may favorite character and is in fact on of the lowest on my list. Throughout the whole series she is obnoxious and a upper-class acting drama queen. At times she was so full of over dramatic drama that she failed to think about the big picture.

But none the less generosity doesn't mean you cant think about yourself once in a while, i mean she make like 2 sets of dresses for her friends and kindly does stuff for the even if it means her getting dirty. I think Rarity is just subject to mood swings.

[ThatGuyWhoAteTheCookies 51]

"In another, she offers Twilight her umbrella to protect her from the rain."

 

Yes, but she only did that because she wanted the ticket to The Gala, remember?

 

Rarity not only doesn't show her element much, which is why she isn't much of a fan favorite, but she is also an annoying character at times. She at one point refused to play with her sister because she didn't want to get dirty, she tried tricking a dragon into getting jewels when she was supposed to be making it leave the cave, and she lied to her friends during her trip to Canterlot because she got new ones that were more up tight. This all would explain why the rest of the Mane Six get more love then Rarity, but this is about her not representing generosity.

[!Surprise! 1]

Well there's this... Edited July 27, 2012 by !Surprise!

[Gingerpotato 889]

Rarity is an incredibly diverse character, one with two separate ideals to her, one of greed and one of generosity and, quite frankly, I think that is the reason she is very high up in my favourite characters list.

 

She is, without a doubt, the most generous of the group but she is also the most greedy, creating a sort of battle between the good and bad within her that I love to watch. The other members always seem to have their elements under control, especially Pinkie and RD and the disputes of the elements from the element holders (e.g Fluttershy in Putting Your Hoof Down) are usually sorted out in one episode whilst with Rarity it seems to be a pitched battle to fight her lust and want, her greed. Perhaps she appears greedy at times but that just makes her generosity all the more present as it shows that despite what she can be, she will nearly always choose to be generous.

 

What I'm trying to say here is that Rarity may be greedy and, yes, she may not fully resemble generosity but it's the battle that she makes to embody it, the ability to pull through when her friends truly need her and to put aside her own faults and flaws that makes her such a fabulous character and such a good choice for the element of generosity.

Edited July 27, 2012 by DiscordedPotato