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I think there's life out there amongst the stars other than our own. Do they behave in a manner similar to what we've seen on television, books, video games, movies, and other forms of media over the decades? Hard to say because we haven't actually seen aliens with our own eyes but perhaps there could be some truth to it.

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Every one have pretty good points to share. I like how our discussion is going so far.

I've another question for my followers, who of you think aliens would have religions and believe system like we do. As for me, I think there might be a alien kind who have a better religious understanding of the universe than us, and possess even greater intelligence. 

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They've gotta be out there somewhere, it's just a question of if we'll ever see them. The universe is unfathomably huge. We can't be the only intelligent life to exist in it.


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I believe that somewhere, hidden amongst the stars, lies a very horsey planet. Its benevolent dictators, the royal sisters, raise the sun and the moon as the populace basks in their radiance :yay:

 

In all seriousness though, I don't believe in aliens. The only intelligent life that I believe lies beyond the Earth is God, angels, and demons (demons being fallen angels).

 

On 4/14/2019 at 5:35 PM, Lucky Bolt said:

Honestly I believe in ghosts and zombies more than I do aliens. :-P

Everypony knows the zombie apocalypse is just around the corner :laugh:

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On ‎8‎/‎21‎/‎2018 at 5:34 PM, 2nd Amendment Brony said:

There is overwhelming evidence that aliens have and do visit Earth. See Project Blue Book Special Report Number 14.

Look at the work by Stanton Friedman. He is a nuclear physicist who had security clearances and worked on nuclear rocket technology in the 1960s. He is a very intelligent man and an expert on the topic. People like him do real research, getting government documents and gathering data. Meanwhile, some jack ass will declare from his couch that aliens don't exist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Blue_Book

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  1. No UFO reported, investigated, and evaluated by the Air Force was ever an indication of threat to our national security;
  2. There was no evidence submitted to or discovered by the Air Force that sightings categorized as "unidentified" represented technological developments or principles beyond the range of modern scientific knowledge; and
  3. There was no evidence indicating that sightings categorized as "unidentified" were extraterrestrial vehicles.[1]'

 

Aliens can exist though, the universe is quite vast. Statistically life on other planets is a very high chance. Earth-like planets do exist.


What evidence could be for a god? Because, if god can do anything, surely a lesser being relative to god, could still trick humans without fail if they wanted to. Which means, a being that appears to be god, may not be god. So even if god showed up in person doing anything and everything, for all you know it could be a demon casting illusions or your brain plugged into the matrix. Just because it claims to be a god, does not mean it is. Thus, there is never evidence enough for a god. Which means you cannot have an accurate reason for believing in god.

 

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13 minutes ago, 2nd Amendment Brony said:

@NiceVillains the Condon Report was a hack job.

Could you link us the good reports then?


What evidence could be for a god? Because, if god can do anything, surely a lesser being relative to god, could still trick humans without fail if they wanted to. Which means, a being that appears to be god, may not be god. So even if god showed up in person doing anything and everything, for all you know it could be a demon casting illusions or your brain plugged into the matrix. Just because it claims to be a god, does not mean it is. Thus, there is never evidence enough for a god. Which means you cannot have an accurate reason for believing in god.

 

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47 minutes ago, NiceVillains said:

Could you link us the good reports then?

Look at Stanton Friedman's work. I'm not an expert. But I do know the debunkers like to pick straw man cases, and of course the Air Force is going to deny everything.

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Believing in aliens is as far fetched as believing in lizard people and ghosts, so no, I don’t believe in them.

Weird looking aircraft flying over Area 51 - a military base. So strange! :wau:


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1 hour ago, 2nd Amendment Brony said:

Look at Stanton Friedman's work. I'm not an expert. But I do know the debunkers like to pick straw man cases, and of course the Air Force is going to deny everything.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/21/obituaries/stanton-friedman-dead.html

'He argued that the United States government had engaged in a “cosmic Watergate” to cover up evidence of alien landings, most notably the one that believers say took place in 1947 on a ranch near Roswell, N.M., spawning an enduring fascination with reports of alien encounters.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_lysergic_acid_diethylamide

'LSD was introduced as a commercial medication under the trade-name Delysid for various psychiatric uses in 1947.[11] '

Not saying the link is definitive, but its a curious possibility lol.


What evidence could be for a god? Because, if god can do anything, surely a lesser being relative to god, could still trick humans without fail if they wanted to. Which means, a being that appears to be god, may not be god. So even if god showed up in person doing anything and everything, for all you know it could be a demon casting illusions or your brain plugged into the matrix. Just because it claims to be a god, does not mean it is. Thus, there is never evidence enough for a god. Which means you cannot have an accurate reason for believing in god.

 

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33 minutes ago, NiceVillains said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/21/obituaries/stanton-friedman-dead.html

'He argued that the United States government had engaged in a “cosmic Watergate” to cover up evidence of alien landings, most notably the one that believers say took place in 1947 on a ranch near Roswell, N.M., spawning an enduring fascination with reports of alien encounters.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_lysergic_acid_diethylamide

'LSD was introduced as a commercial medication under the trade-name Delysid for various psychiatric uses in 1947.[11] '

Not saying the link is definitive, but its a curious possibility lol.

If you are implying that a well respected nuclear scientist was on drugs then you're not interested in the facts. I have done all I can.

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7 minutes ago, 2nd Amendment Brony said:

If you are implying that a well respected nuclear scientist was on drugs then you're not interested in the facts. I have done all I can.

Not him, the people claiming to have seen aliens. Back then scientific knowledge for the average person was lower, so proportionally superstitions would be higher. Also plenty of respected people have tried psychedelics (serotonergic psychedelics increase neuroconnections) like https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertglatter/2015/11/27/lsd-microdosing-the-new-job-enhancer-in-silicon-valley-and-beyond/.

A substance that alters perception heavily could easily cause mis-reportings. And him not being a psychologist but a nuclear scientist may not have had the ability to recognize broad human error potentials, and recognizing such a thing would cause cognitive dissonance because it conflicts with his life interest and purpose and books he wrote etc, so he has reasons to not notice. And technically 'well respected' is not an indication of accuracy only of consensus, scientists who wrote books have been wrong before.


What evidence could be for a god? Because, if god can do anything, surely a lesser being relative to god, could still trick humans without fail if they wanted to. Which means, a being that appears to be god, may not be god. So even if god showed up in person doing anything and everything, for all you know it could be a demon casting illusions or your brain plugged into the matrix. Just because it claims to be a god, does not mean it is. Thus, there is never evidence enough for a god. Which means you cannot have an accurate reason for believing in god.

 

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I know they exist somewhere. You'd have to be egotistical to think that, as vast as the universe is, that Earth is the only planet that managed to spawn intelligent life. I mean, there was a report not that long ago that confirmed that NASA and several other government agencies acknowledge the existence of UFOs and the like. 

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1 hour ago, 2nd Amendment Brony said:

The facts are there, read them if you want.

I don't want to be rude but I am trying to find evidence. There doesn't seem to be direct evidence of anything, some cover-ups(they assert but the documents could be fake) but testing prototype aviation technology they don't want others finding out about would be motivation to cover stuff up as well. Plus the government could try to do fake documents to study how the public responds. Theres no hard evidence on the man's site and it seems more interested in selling books and dvds.

Do you think this looks real, if not, why is he holding it as if it is?

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What evidence could be for a god? Because, if god can do anything, surely a lesser being relative to god, could still trick humans without fail if they wanted to. Which means, a being that appears to be god, may not be god. So even if god showed up in person doing anything and everything, for all you know it could be a demon casting illusions or your brain plugged into the matrix. Just because it claims to be a god, does not mean it is. Thus, there is never evidence enough for a god. Which means you cannot have an accurate reason for believing in god.

 

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If we are talking about if think alien lifeforms exist then yes, I do think they do. It would be foolish to not think that.

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1 hour ago, NiceVillains said:

Do you think this looks real, if not, why is he holding it as if it is?

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That is a picture of a sculpture made based on the descriptions from Barney and Betty Hill. I don't know what you mean by "as if it is."

I'm not going to convince you here, and I'm not going to spoon feed the data. All I can say is it is really easy to dismiss something that you haven't studied, and there are a lot of debunkers that do a lot of arm chair resesrch. If you want to learn more then there is plenty out there. There is also a lot of woo woo stuff that is too far out for me.

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I believe there's probably something out there on some distant planet. It's absurd to think that only one star out of trillions and trillions is being circled by a planet that can sustain life. For that reason, I find exoplanets fascinating.

What I'm skeptical about is stuff like alien abduction. Alien abduction and other forms of human-extraterrestrial contact are fascinating subjects to me, but it's so easy for people to just make up stories and that I have my doubts.


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