Tommy Oliver Rage Quits the Fandom

[BlinkZ 1,151]

@Dark Qiviut

yes that is true the story is quite interesting and enjoyable enough for teens and adults but the main demographic is kids

the story has to kept simple

ive watched some of this analytic brony vids on youtube and most have forgotten about that and expect the show to have the same complexity as avatar

Yeah, sometimes I find I have to watch an episode twice to get a feel for how I like an episode. Granted sometimes I can't really tell what good or bad moslty just how I enjoy it at the time instead of nickpicking it *insert reference to another Oliver vidoe about nickpicking damanaging the fandom here*

[Snake 516]

Not sure if this has already been asked and sorry if it has, but who is Tommy Oliver? Some youtube brony?

[Tom Snyder 4,112]

Not sure if this has already been asked and sorry if it has, but who is Tommy Oliver? Some youtube brony?

An MLP FIM episode analyzer. He was a Brony but rage quit.

Edited June 8, 2015 by Candy Star

[Grepper 3,192]

I haven't really watched Tommy Oliver for that long, but that's quite a way to quit the fandom.

So long, Mr. Oliver.

[Rainbow S.D. 546]

Meh. I don't watch analysis stuff. 

[Emerald Star 513]

He may have made some good points and I can understand why he quit the fandom. There are certainly fans like that out there but the same can be said for every fandom. There are still plenty of sane fans that encourage discussion and criticism. I feel as though this was the wrong way to go about it...In this video he comes across as whiny and pretentious, stereotyping all bronies from a few negative experiences. He could have at least not been so pathetic about it. There was no reason to attack the fandom and the show and get this set off because of one bad episode.

 

The episode was objectively bad, or at least boring, but that doesn't mean the overall quality of the show has deteriorated as much as he made it seem. (In my opinion) It has certainly changed and evolved from how things were back in the first two seasons, but I see that as a good thing. The show is getting better or at least has consistently good quality--other than a few bad episodes like Appleloosa's Most Wanted--but no show is perfect and we should not expect it to be.

 

I have never used the 'skip the bad' button on any video, brony analysis or otherwise. I think that discussion and differing opinions can be healthy. It's good to recognize when something is flawed, but continue to be a fan anyway. However he's acting like its flaws personally offend him...If he doesn't enjoy the show anymore, then by all means he should go ahead and leave. My point is just that there were better ways to do this.

 

I won't miss him. I haven't enjoyed a Tommy Oliver video in a long time.

Edited June 8, 2015 by Emerald Star

[Hypn0ticD 1,213]

Like others here have said, if you wanna leave a fandom, then leave. But having such a freakout over it? Seriously? Grow up, man! Say you had a good a good time while it lasted, but it's time to move on! Don't have such a bitchfit over it!

[Unr3alGamer 230]

For the people who say that r34 is a recurring thing in fandoms:

 

Yes, you're absolutely right. That doesn't excuse that it still happens when it shouldn't happen. That's like saying "someone got murdered by a serial killer in my hometown, but it happens all the time around the world." It comes off as more of a justification than an explanation, especially if it's being used in defense. 

 

But on Tommy Oliver, he was generalizing the fandom with his "affirmation" argument, but generalizations do have some truth to them. It's pretty sad that some of you bronies are in denial that (A LOT of) people depend on someone's affirmation to make them feel less weird when watching MLP and instead just blindly bash on Oliver because he's leaving the fandom and he dares to have an opinion. Granted, his opinions are based on perceptions by over-analysis, but he still has an opinion just like the rest of us do. 

[Orablanco Account 3,707]

Copy-pasting my response from somewhere else, because this does not dignify new, original thought.

 

I don't think he never truly cared about the show. One does not make that many videos for that long for something they never genuinely cared about. If he doesn't think the show is good anymore and wants to move on to stuff that actually interest him, more power to him.

 

But the whole thing feels like an attempt to make it more dramatic and meaningful then it actually is. He isn't just drifting away from the show, he's "leaving the fandom," and it's other people who makes him feel like he needs to censor his output despite the fact that most actual critics just put up with it and say what they want, and he's being oppressed by a negative atmosphere that stifles creativity and doesn't match his lofty expectations for a community of people who analyze My Little Pony.

 

Give me a break. Whatever harsh point you were trying to deliver to the My Little Pony Analysis Community is slightly undercut by your constant sipping of Mountain Dew Baja Blast.

[Miles 2,512]

*Only read comments on Page 1 - so if I repeat something that someone's already said, I'm sorry.

1.  I don't watch many critics.  I prefer to analyze things my own way, and let people think what they want until someone tells me my opinion is wrong.

2.  Originality and its opposite, redundancy, is a two way street with nearly equal borders on both far ends.  You can only be so original; you can only be so redundant - and then past the borders, the two become the same thing: Original redundancy.  That's why critics and analysts usually say something that we could have fathomed as what they might possibly say, before watching their videos.  Typically, most of what you see with the extremists like this guy, Tommy, is in the "original redundancy" category.  *Just my opinion.

3.  I think Tommy (whether or not he really does feel so strongly or not) had already predetermined that he'd end up having an exodus at some point, possibly do to some reason in his own life we don't know about.  So, essentially, even if he really is being honest, I think he's "putting on airs" to some extent.  Let's face it, critics and analysts are also actors/actresses, too.  Gotta pep up the energy a little to get noticed.

4.  All the previous (of the above) said and done...  Tommy seems like a royal dunce to me.  Rest in Pepperoni, bud.

~ Miles 

[DiscordPF 139]

 

 

Whatever harsh point you were trying to deliver to the My Little Pony Analysis Community is slightly undercut by your constant sipping of Mountain Dew Baja Blast.

 

Yes. The neckbeardedness is strong with this one. 

[The Coffee Pony 1,390]

Well, so long to him, then! If he's going to go ahead and insult the fandom for liking episodes he doesn't like and go on and say that the fandom's the reason why he doesn't like the show anymore, then by all means, he can just leave. We don't need him

 

This song came to mind when I read this and watched the video.

Edited June 8, 2015 by The Coffee Pony

[Zhortac 1,474]

No, I think it did exist at some point---back when the fandom was still fairly small and the show had not yet hit its stride. 

 

The only time it existed, was when the term was created, for trolls to piss off the people who were on /b/ on 4chan.

[GenderIsAnIllusion 2,177]

I... Uh... Omg.... I just..... Really don't give a flying ****.

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,302]

*Watches a bit of the video with the sound off.  Fears he might be sucked into the guy's nostrils.*

 

While I've no especial affection for either the fandom or the analysis community, I...  Wait...

 

Who's Tommy Oliver?  Nobody actually tell me; I don't care.

[Celli 4,338]

I had a lot of respect for the guy, and he made valid points in his reviews, but this honestly just pissed me off. Good riddance, Tom. 

I love the analysis community, it's varied and has good and bad people. But he is one of the worst. 

[Conred 274]

From fandom:

Digi left, Tommy left, Horseshoe left

 

From DHX

Faust left and Amy Keating Rogers, soon maybe even Meghan herself since she was promoted for other Hasbro brands

 

If we won't stop this then the show will end like Power Puff Girls, Fosters Imaginary Friends and other Fauts tv shows that only remained in our memory.

[Ashen Pathfinder 16,161]

From fandom:

Digi left, Tommy left, Horseshoe left

 

From DHX

Faust left and Amy Keating Rogers, soon maybe even Meghan herself since she was promoted for other Hasbro brands

 

If we won't stop this then the show will end like Power Puff Girls, Fosters Imaginary Friends and other Fauts tv shows that only remained in our memory.

 

In all honesty that is a bit of an overreaction. Digi and Tommy were fans like the rest of us, and other analysts and reviewers have come to replace them in the limelight. Add to that we have a sizeable analyst community with the likes of Silver Quill, Dr. Wolf, Ink Rose, ToonKritic, GoldenFox, Eliyora, Keyframe, and many others still there. Add to that that Digi and Tommy have been here for quite a while, so it's not unnatural for them to move onto new things.

 

Likewise with the show staff. The show has been running for a few years now, and it is not uncommon for writers, animators, and the like to be promoted else where, leave staff for whatever reasons, etc. In the end it allows new blood to come in; possible with new and better ideas.

 

MLP is a bit away from a catastrophe as such.

[Conred 274]

In all honesty that is a bit of an overreaction. Digi and Tommy were fans like the rest of us, and other analysts and reviewers have come to replace them in the limelight. Add to that we have a sizeable analyst community with the likes of Silver Quill, Dr. Wolf, Ink Rose, ToonKritic, GoldenFox, Eliyora, Keyframe, and many others still there. Add to that that Digi and Tommy have been here for quite a while, so it's not unnatural for them to move onto new things.

 

Likewise with the show staff. The show has been running for a few years now, and it is not uncommon for writers, animators, and the like to be promoted else where, leave staff for whatever reasons, etc. In the end it allows new blood to come in; possible with new and better ideas.

 

MLP is a bit away from a catastrophe as such.

If the rest of the original staff leave, especially wihtout the guidance of Meghan and Larson, there won't be any future for the series, None of the new writers or the old one is able to keep the series interesting or without destroying its established plotline (Polsky was the reason why Tommy left in the first place) and most of them don't even watch previous episodes. Headwriters and editors are the only one who try to make it consistant.

I know that fandom may survive on it's own but MLP is not Pokemon. It's core profit comes from little girls who are not involved with the fandom. Once they noticed that the show is as much fresh and interesting as Hannah Montana, they will jump onto another series like Monster Hight or Skull Girls. Entire Equestria Girls series is Hasbro "backup plan" in case people get tired of ponies.

[Mesme Rize 15,683]

If the rest of the original staff leave, especially wihtout the guidance of Meghan and Larson, there won't be any future for the series, None of the new writers or the old one is able to keep the series interesting or without destroying its established plotline (Polsky was the reason why Tommy left in the first place) and most of them don't even watch previous episodes. Headwriters and editors are the only one who try to make it consistant.

I know that fandom may survive on it's own but MLP is not Pokemon. It's core profit comes from little girls who are not involved with the fandom. Once they noticed that the show is as much fresh and interesting as Hannah Montana, they will jump onto another series like Monster Hight or Skull Girls. Entire Equestria Girls series is Hasbro "backup plan" in case people get tired of ponies.

 

Do you have a crystal ball? Because if you do, i would really like to have look at it, because you obviously know what you're talking about.

[Ashen Pathfinder 16,161]

If the rest of the original staff leave, especially wihtout the guidance of Meghan and Larson, there won't be any future for the series, None of the new writers or the old one is able to keep the series interesting or without destroying its established plotline (Polsky was the reason why Tommy left in the first place) and most of them don't even watch previous episodes. Headwriters and editors are the only one who try to make it consistant.

I know that fandom may survive on it's own but MLP is not Pokemon. It's core profit comes from little girls who are not involved with the fandom. Once they noticed that the show is as much fresh and interesting as Hannah Montana, they will jump onto another series like Monster Hight or Skull Girls. Entire Equestria Girls series is Hasbro "backup plan" in case people get tired of ponies.

 

You're grasping at straws here; there's nothing to indicate that MLP will suddenly fall off just because members of the show staff leave. Change is a constant in life, and it's a common happening in television writing. In a lot of cases shows turn out just fine. The opposite is also true (Dexter's Lab, for instance), but it's not the standard.

 

In any case to say that MLP is in trouble because because of these departures is a stretch. Larson is still there, and unless we've heard differently, McCarthy is still writing, so relax.

[SnuggleTrumpet 26]

I'm not going to lie, when I watched this last night, it struck a very bad cord with me where I started questioning the future of the fandom.  The way he badmouthed bronies and the community as a whole actually made me very fearful that this was the beginning of the end for much of the community.  I've sat and watched many of his videos and had times where I agreed with him and times where I didn't.  I figured this is just a normal thing.  I never hated him or raged on him for difference in opinion... it's like hating someone for not liking onions on their pizza.

 

I've just enjoyed the show for what it was.  I never looked for continuity or the best plot in the world... that's not why I like cartoons.  I like them because they will either take issues from life and portray them in such a radical fashion that you just have to laugh at yourself because you were once (or currently are) in the shoes of the main character... or they just do what they're suppose to, entertain us.  The only reason I watched analyst videos were for the laughs (see Antony C. or LittleshyFIM).  They just joked about the bads of an episode in such a comedic way that you can't help but laugh at them which in turn makes the show better in a way.  It's not a perfect show, but it does what it's meant to and that's all I care about.

 

I would like to say, I am glad that this was addressed both on here AND derpibooru (my two primary sites), it helped show me that this fandom is not going anywhere in light of this rather startling video.  Thank you everypony for reaffirming why I love this fandom.

 

[Deano 1,704]

*shrugs* Sounds about right to me. This fandom and the show have both decreased in quality immensely. It doesn't bother me quite that much, but it is a concern. However, I salute you Mr Oliver. Of all the ways to go, that's probably one of my favourite to see. Good luck in your future endeavours.

[King Sejong 859]

   To be honest, I knew this was going to happen, I could hear it in his voice, I can sense his depraved attitude, so I figured out that someday he is going to quit, and to quit in such an vitriolic manner, that was stunning to see. Last year, I saw the change in Tommy Oliver's attitude, I notice his widening distance between him and the show, thus cause him to fall out of favour with the fandom, Tommy was letting the smallest changes, he did not agree with, make him angry, to the point he would vent wrath on the writers, now it seems he has gone against the fandom too, in fact he is so irate, he dropped an f-bomb directed at the community, I figured he was angry but to such an extent, as to verbally chastise the fandom for the quality of the show, and the current state of the fandom, he went too far. Tommy Oliver is one of those nostalgic harpies, trapped in motion for the first seasons, and the early bronies, Tony could not advance nor mature with other bronies, so if he wants to leave, go and leave us in peace, although Tony has a right to express his opinion, that does not mean he could insult and curse our community, without consequences nor repercussions, this discourse will not go unnoticed, so if Tony has left the fandom, fine, leave, I wanted to leave the fandom too, but I stayed, in hope for something better, in the show and the fans, both had done a great deed in my life, so if Tony has indeed left, then the fandom will be better for it.

Edited June 9, 2015 by King Edouard

[LordDiscord 289]

Mr. Enter didn't leave the fandom, he's just taking a break from MLP reviews. He said so on his deviantart.

Something I feel had Tommy done, might have rejuvenated his interest in the fandom instead of completely destroying it. If this was bothering him so much for so long then he should have quit a while ago instead of letting the frustration build up to the point it got to, it's saddening to see him go but it's even more hurtful to see him go like this, at least Digibro was subtle about it.