Elements of Chaos: what would they be?

[Forlong 1,725]

Just curious. Say Discord or some new villain makes Elements of Chaos or something to counteract the Elements of Harmony. What would these elements be? Why? What existing MLP villains would use them (if any)?

 

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Don't just slap a negative prefix on the element and call it a night. We know dishonesty is literally the opposite of honesty. I want to see some effort and creativity put in this.

[Starshine 16,330]

Innovation

Pride

Mirth

Ambition

Curiosity

Creativity

 

Not really exist to counteract the Elements of Harmony perse, only to visualize what kind of things you will have outside Order

[Fox 5,330]

Other then Discord being the king of chaos, he would represent pride, because he's too overconfident of his abilities. Nightmare Moon I think would be Envy, and Chrysalis would be lust because she feeds off love. Even though the elements of chaos were briefly shown in MLP when Discord happened, it gave an example for a few elements of chaos, there are more elements of chaos.

[LessThanNormal 44]

I actually have an animated Fan fiction with an intresting twist on the Elements of chaos and harmony. Making something called the Elemnts of Order

 

Harmony obviously everyone knows is

 

Magic

generocity

honesty

loyalty

laughter

kindness

 

What i was thinking in my fanfic is that the Elemnts of chaos are

 

Knowledge

greed

deception

betrayal

pain

hate

 

each morphing together would make order, neither favoring the light or darkness

 

Elemnts of Order

Truth

Duality

Obedience

Neutrality

Tolerance

(still thinking of what kindess and hate could be)

 

If you want to see my fan fic animation, its on my Deviant Art

 

http://ltn01.deviantart.com/art/My-Little-Pony-Friendship-is-Magic-Fall-From-Grace-315336450

[♥.:Yulaiyre:.♥ 290]

So we have the elements of harmony:

Loyalty

Kindness

Honesty

Generosity

Laughter

Magic

 

So if we were literally going for opposites:

Betrayal

Aggressiveness

Dishonesty

Selfishness

Anger/sadness

I'm not sure about magic though, perhaps Science or technology?

 

Other suggestions:

Disorganisation

Rivalry

Anarchy

Laziness

 

You could even use some of the 7 deadly sins

[Fox 5,330]

Other elements of chaos would defiantly gluttony, laziness, addiction, and for sure being mean it's horrible when PInkie Pie was mean. D':

[Sepraxian 36]

I'm not sure about magic though, perhaps Science or technology?

 

The sixth element of Chaos is, of course, Magic. Because magic can do a lot of things. And it does not care what it does, it can only be pointed in a direction by something, for example, other five elements.

 

(everything in this post is the poster's opinion)

Edited August 22, 2012 by Sepraxian

[Ink 191]

Enmity (Magic, aka friendship)

Treachery (Loyalty)

Deceit (Honesty)

Cruelty (Kindness)

Greed (Generosity)

Sadness (Laughter)

 

The opposites of the Elements of Harmony seem to fit pretty well.

Edited August 22, 2012 by Shaoni

[XUNUSEDXXX 3,459]

Discord would represent Chaos (obviously)

Chrysalis represent Power or Lust (since she was very power hungry)

Trixie represent Pride (again, obvious reasons)

then there would be others im not sure of, but those are the three I can think of right now.

[PonyTrollz 19]

Elements of Harmony:

 

Magic(Friendship)

Kindness

Generosity

Loyalty

Laughter

Honesty

 

Elements of Chaos:

 

Sadness

Cruelty

Greedyness

Betrayal

Hating

Lying

[Jokuc 8,172]

Idk but I really like my suggestions haha

 

Betrayal

Hate

Cruelty

Greed

Sadness

4Chan

 

lmao xD hahaha... it's true..

[Charming Knight 56]

magic

generocity

honesty

loyalty

laughter

kindness

 

we all know of those but what i was thinking would be

Envy

Greed

Pride

dishonesty

hatred

lust

they all would have to be the slight polar opposite of what the elements of harmony would be but this is just my thoughts upon this subject.

[Nothing&NoOne 695]

Honesty

Kindness

Generosity

Loyalty

Laughter

Magic

 

 

Hm.. Elements of Chaos..

 

Hatred

Agony

Jelousy

Cruelty

Dishonesty

 

And.. Darkness? Death? Despair?

Or Chaos.

[NavelColt 22,876]

My ideas, with villain examples

 

Magic --> Arrogance/Pride (Trixie)

Loyalty --> Treachery (dunno)

Generosity --> Greed (Diamond Dogs)

Kindness --> Cruelty (Gilda)

Honesty --> Deception (Chrysalis)

Laughter --> Stress/Anxiety (dunno)

 

In my opinion, Pinkie Pie and Fluttershy's opposites were far too similar. They were both mean and rude to others, and there could have been more distinction. That's why I decided to go with stress/anxiety as Laughter's opposite, which it rightfully is, anyway.

Edited August 22, 2012 by ~Chaotic Discord~

[Acoustic Cloud 2,202]

Kindness Hatred

Honesty Blasphemy

Kindness Cruelty

Magic Knowledge

Loyalty Treachery

Generosity Desire

 

When you combine the elements of harmony you have friendship

when you combine the elements of disharmony you have aquaintinces

[Darkcloud 2]

For the Elements of Chaos: 

 

Magic --> Witchcraft

Honesty --> Deception

Laughter --> Misery 

Generosity --> Greed

Loyalty --> Betrayal

Kindness --> Cruelty

[Galen 1,353]

Here's my take on it. Obviously, the elements of chaos would be opposites of the elements of harmony, so here's what I think they'd be.

Magic - Abyss: Magic is often portrayed as something that creates other things, miracles, tools of wonder, and generally fills life with things people normally wouldn't imagine. Abyss, on the other hand, is completely emptiness, an existence devoid of such wonders. I also think this is an appropriate opposite for Twilight, who regularly fills her existence with new knowledge of some kind, but abyss would be something completely devoid of any knowledge.

Loyalty - Greed: Some people have said this is the opposite but I think Greed is more appropriate here because if you think about why Rainbow Dash left for "Cloudsdale" in Discord's episodes, it was because of her self-interest and greed that she left the game and her friends.

Honesty - Deceit: this one's rather obvious imo so I don't think I should explain it

Generosity - Vanity: This one is rather simple because Rarity actually exhibits both generosity and vanity which is what makes her really interesting. The element of Vanity would be the opposite one to this because Vanity is often a trait seen as completely selfish and self-serving.

Laughter - Terror: The idea behind this one is that the element of laughter brings joy to others, then the opposite element would also be the opposite of laughter's end result: fear and terror in the hearts of those who face said element.

Kindness - Pride: Pride in excessive measures is often blinding to the needs of others which is why I would say Pride opposes kindness. For one to be kind, I believe there has to be a sense of humility, and someone filled with hubris is often anything but kind and looks down on others.

Edited July 28, 2013 by Freedan

[Scootalove 10,684]

Kindness: Hatred - Chrysalis

Magic: Arrogance - Trixie

Honesty: Lying - Discord

Generosity: Greed - King Sombra

Laughter: Sadness - Nightmare Moon

Edited September 9, 2013 by Scootalove

[Scootadress 360]

I actually have an animated Fan fiction with an intresting twist on the Elements of chaos and harmony. Making something called the Elemnts of OrderHarmony obviously everyone knows isMagicgenerocityhonestyloyaltylaughterkindnessWhat i was thinking in my fanfic is that the Elemnts of chaos areKnowledgegreeddeceptionbetrayalpainhateeach morphing together would make order, neither favoring the light or darknessElemnts of OrderTruthDualityObedienceNeutralityTolerance(still thinking of what kindess and hate could be)If you want to see my fan fic animation, its on my Deviant Arthttp://ltn01.deviantart.com/art/My-Little-Pony-Friendship-is-Magic-Fall-From-Grace-315336450

What about the Element of understanding? Its a mix of hate and kindness. You can understand someone when they are sad and rationalize why they do bad things, sorta like kindness, but doesn't mean you don't dislike what they do, but you don't hate them.

(sorry, my phone is doing this weird shat when I talk)

Edited July 28, 2013 by Scootadress

[notdog1996 315]

I like the idea of the elements of chaos.  I hope it will be implemented in the show but I doubt it ever will...

 

Honesty = Trickery

Loyalty = Betrayal

Generosity = Greed

Laughter = Sadness .... I dunno

Kindness = Nastiness

Magic = Disharmony

[Shanks 10,811]

Magic-Trixie (magic can be used for either good or evil so I think it can fit for harmony and chaos)

Deceit-Queen Chrysalis

Disloyalty-Lightning Dust

Depression- Nightmare Moon

Greed- Flim Flam Brothers

Cruelty- Iron Will

[RrVPfX9cPtw59FpC 1,296]

Magic - Necromancy

Loyalty - Selfishness

Honesty - Deceit

Laughter - Pain

Kindness - Hate

I know that some of these are nouns, but they sound better to me that way.

[muffinsangria 1]

I don't like the assumption that the elements of choas would be bad, or that harmony is sanonymous with order.  I think harmony is the balance between order and chaos.  In that case the elements of chaos would be Laughter, Kindness, and Magic.  Or you could disect each element and try to find the lawful and choatic side it it.  Doing it that way this is what I came up with.

 

 

Order                           Chaos

 

veracity = Honesty = candor

courtesy = Kindness = naivety

pittances= Generosity = liberality

amusement =Laughter= indulgence

submission =Loyalty= faithfulness

stability = Magic = freedom

 

It's not perfect but its the best I could come up with

Edited September 8, 2013 by muffinsangria

[The Blades Shadow 444]

Magic - Science (That's what I've heard before)
Kindness - Cruelty

Honesty - Deceit

Loyalty - Betrayal

Laughter - Anger (Something like that)

Generosity - Greed

[ASocialyAwkwardPony 299]

I find it a bit odd everyone thinks Elements of Chaos would automatically mean "evil things" when a lot of it is not even related to chaos and Discord now being a good guy, but alright.

 

I would go with:

Anarchy

Disorder

Experimentation

Freedom

Confusion

Inversion