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I've seen a lot of people raise their fists at season 3, but it's a perfectly fine season. Its length did it a disservice sure, but it stands on its own.

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On 8/12/2019 at 8:22 PM, TheAnimationFanatic said:

I generally think that Josh Haber handles Twilignt better than Meghan McCarthy.

I actually agree that Haber handles Twilight better than McCarthy - while her more exaggerated hammy nerdishness can become tiring, it's a superior vehicle for legitimate character focus and plotting compared to the bland mentor figure of S4 (a surprising deficiency given that McCarthy as a writer excelled with Twilight in the majority of the episodes she penned, particularly Lesson Zero, which basically codified the show's definition of Twilight heading forward) and, to a lesser extent, the following season, which possessed few of the traits Twilight exhibited during S1-3 (save for a handful of AKR and McCarthy's outings). 

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5 minutes ago, Them's Seeing Ponies said:

I actually agree that Haber handles Twilight better than McCarthy - while her more exaggerated hammy nerdishness can become tiring, it's a superior vehicle for legitimate character focus and plotting compared to the bland mentor figure of S4 (a surprising deficiency given that McCarthy as a writer excelled with Twilight in the majority of the episodes she penned, particularly Lesson Zero, which basically codified the show's definition of Twilight heading forward) and, to a lesser extent, the following season, which possessed few of the traits Twilight exhibited during S1-3 (save for a handful of AKR and McCarthy's outings). 

I should add that I meant no disrespect towards Miss McCarthy, who was responsible for many of Twilight's best moments, many of which are in S4.

I just think that Haber strikes the balance a bit better.

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On 8/10/2019 at 10:50 AM, heavens-champion said:

I see no problem with villains being reformed. I mean, I get it, already. You hate forgiveness. But if that's not the case, than what is, because I pretty much expect most villains in a show about friendship to get redeemed. Come on. What's the big deal?

I don't hate forgiveness. I hate forgiveness being handed to people who don't deserve it because they are toxic to not only themselves but everyone else around them.

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17 minutes ago, RulesofRarity said:

I don't hate forgiveness. I hate forgiveness being handed to people who don't deserve it because they are toxic to not only themselves but everyone else around them.

Care to elaborate on these toxic people?

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SP has a valid point up there, but I'll bite anyway: 

- Season 1 is one of the show's most consistently enjoyable and stylistically effective seasons (moreso than more ubiquitous fandom favorites such as seasons 5 or 7). 

Spike at Your Service contains some of S3's most effective comedy (courtesy of the mane six).

A Royal Problem  is one of the weakest episodes of season 7.

- The Beginning of the End is a weirdly empty premiere which showcases the Lady Writers' typical weaknesses in a more glaring manner than usual.

- I admire aspects of the Lady Writers' episodes, but they're far from the show's best writers - I've often believed that their work lacks a specific degree of subtlety (which can lead to a polarizing style which exudes an off-putting cheesiness at worst) and tends to execute promising or creative concepts in a lackluster way (as implied above,The Beginning of the End  clearly displayed this exact issue in that it served to showcase a number of creative ideas merely shoehorned into a 44-minute runtime as opposed to being integrated and developed in such a way to create a natural flow and feel satisfying). 

- Season 5 is an ambitious and conceptually compelling but fundamentally problematic season. 

- The show's recent style of comedy (under Haber's and Big Jim's leadership) is arguably its most egregiously shortcoming from my perspective in that it repetitiously utilizes over-the-top meme faces and huge emotional takes (which is meant to be funny because... characters behaving generically crazy is gut-busting, I guess?), which resultantly recall a diet rendition of Friends (which was subjectively never a particularly great show to begin with despite the mechanics of its aesthetic, tone and universe gelling more consistently with said blunter style than FiM) as opposed to the greater variety of slier/less simplistic jokes employed by the earlier seasons. 

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I hate that changelings suddenly broke off from having a hive mindset to being free thinkers. I argue passionately with others that this killed the shows lore. 

The inclusion of new species was a decision that was worse than anything Equestria Girls did.

even worse though is not including cat people in the show. I would sacrifice sea ponies for cat people. 


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On 8/16/2019 at 8:53 PM, heavens-champion said:

Care to elaborate on these toxic people?

Sure. Basically every major villain post Rainbow Rocks baring Cozy Glow and the Storm King because at least they don't hide behind sad backstories.

Starlight - Would've reduced Equestria to a wasteland(or any of the other hellish alternate futures we saw, pick one) in order to achieve her petty revenge on the Mane 6 for ruining her "Utopia town" but gets forgiveness anyway because Twilight really had no other option but to talk her down.

Pony Of Shadows- Stygian is just a worse Starlight. He made no attempt to talk to the other Pillars about how he was feeling after they casted him out for stealing their stuff and then has the audacity to turn around and act like the injured party. Rather than trying to explain himself to them he expects them to be able to read his mind and then chooses to attempt to kill them.

Tempest Shadow- Tempest was fine before they made her into yet another villain who is still bitter over one situation that occurred in her childhood. Like the others her actions are shoved under the rug once forgiveness is offered to her.

Neighsay- A racist who insulted the leaders of the other nations but doesn't lose his job because he saw the error of his ways uwu.

The first three are just the same character with a different coat of paint, honestly.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, RulesofRarity said:

Sure. Basically every major villain post Rainbow Rocks baring Cozy Glow, Grogar and the Storm King because at least they don't hide behind sad backstories.

Starlight - Would've reduced Equestria to a wasteland(or any of the other hellish alternate futures we saw, pick one) in order to achieve her petty revenge on the Mane 6 for ruining her "Utopia town" but gets forgiveness anyway because Twilight really had no other option but to talk her down.

Pony Of Shadows- Stygian is just a worse Starlight. He made no attempt to talk to the other Pillars about how he was feeling after they casted him out for stealing their stuff and then has the audacity to turn around and act like the injured party. Rather than trying to explain himself to them he expects them to be able to read his mind and then chooses to attempt to kill them.

Tempest Shadow- Tempest was fine before they made her into yet another villain who is still bitter over one situation that occurred in her childhood. Like the others her actions are shoved under the rug once forgiveness is offered to her.

Neighsay- A racist who insulted the leaders of the other nations but doesn't lose his job because he saw the error of his ways uwu.

The first three are just the same character with a different coat of paint, honestly.

 

 

I agree with this; their reformation was too easy.

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Tirek was the last truly memorable villain. As much as I love Starlight Glimmer now, I didn't think she was that great of an antagonist. Cozy Glow has gotten too little character development; she just isn't believable. The Storm King was kinda funny and truly sinister with how he caged pretty much every pony in Canterlot, but he was definitely not one of the highlights of the movie in my opinion... he shouldn't have been used for comic relief as much. I liked Stygian at first but in hindsight the Pony of Shadows is just a rehash of Nightmare Moon with a pony who isn't an alicorn. Grogar is interesting... he might become as memorable as Tirek if the writers can do him justice in his remaining appearance(s).

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"Leave it to fanfics and headcanon" is a garbage excuse to justify loose threads in this show, especially when you consider some of the bullshit episodes have been wasted on

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On 8/18/2019 at 2:03 AM, Rainbow Dash said:

I hate that changelings suddenly broke off from having a hive mindset to being free thinkers. I argue passionately with others that this killed the shows lore. 

 

I liked the Changelings more when they were villains. 

 

I do not like any of the Daring Do focused episodes except for "Read It and Weep".

 

I am not a fan of "That's a Laugh" & I feel like it was the biggest waste of a guest star so far. 

 

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Twilight should have had a friendship ideology rival. It would have been neat to have someone else that helps others with friendship as they challenge each other's approach and methods. I just don't like the concept of everyone else is pitiful until the Mane 6 comes in to fix their problem.

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Watching this show desperately clamour to close up loose ends and build a coherent running plot is genuinely depressing, because the ideas they have for this range from not particularly creative (Scootaloo becoming closer to her parents) to actively nonsensical (Pinkie Pie needing to find her purpose in life), and attempts to make sense of everything that's come before really just point out how messy the show's storytelling was in the past. 

Twilight becoming Celestia's successor is unlikely to be satisfying because it's an emotionally hollow development. There is no real reason to be happy that Twilight has been chosen, because she has no emotional connection to the role, but there's also no urgency to make it satisfying in a bigger-picture sense. I wonder what would happen if Twilight just declined the offer.

If we're suddenly supposed to care about Equestrian politics... then maybe nobody should be a princess. Have ponies ever considered founding a republic? 

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