Tommy Oliver Rage Quits the Fandom

[Moved to Elsewhere 11,331]

 

Tommy Oliver posted this video yesterday. In it, he basically rage quits the fandom and trashes the show, fandom, and analysis community. Well I find it great that he gets it off his chests, parts of it just rubbed me in the wrong way. It's kind of hard to explain why.

 

So what do you think?

[Vox 870]

Hmmm, well, i agree with him to an extent, though i've always been critical of this community as i am with everything. The majority of the online hot spots of brony activity on the web are cautiously avoided by me, as in, i can't stand most of the people there. Thankfully, this little enclave we have here at MLPF is a wholesome exception. For a while i've been cringing at alot of the output and behavior of this fandom, but what convinces me to stay is places like this, and the plethora of quality content that is still being produced. 

Edited June 7, 2015 by Vox

[Ashen Pathfinder 16,162]

Honestly, if he's that fed up with the show, I had no problem with going. Not everyone is happy with how the show is progressed, and really, I can understand that. I disagree with that view, but that's his opinion.

 

What I am NOT cool with is how he disses the entire fandom and the other member of the analysis community. Seriously, he's coming off as hypocritical rage-quoting in that fashion considering how he complained about viewers skipping his negative opinions.

 

That just seemed really low class to me. If he has a problem with the community he can leave gracefully, but whatever.

 

Peace out man, and I hope he reconsiders he view on the fandom. It's not perfect, but...yeah.

[Tom Snyder 4,112]

Tommy Oliver posted this video yesterday. In it, he basically rage quits the fandom and trashes the show, fandom, and analysis community. Well I find it great that he gets it off his chests, parts of it just rubbed me in the wrong way. It's kind of hard to explain why.

 

So what do you think?

A little harsh, but sometimes true; the fans tend to get upset if you say something they don't want to hear. But i could care less how you analyze an episode; its your way, not theirs. They don't have to dislike it if they never wanted to hear this; its easy enough to leave.

[Alto 437]

meh why continue watching something you hate good for him if he wants to leave

 

this is what happens when you nitpick and overanalyze a show for kids

Edited June 7, 2015 by Alto

[Misty Rose 3,216]

Meh really I don't care, if he chooses to leave it's his problem and his decision. Of course there really is no need to insult others in the process

[Dark Qiviut 22,491]

I saw the video recently and gave it a thumbs down followed by unsubscribing him. I said this so often, and I'll say it again. If you're going to quit, then do so because the quality isn't up to snuff. Don't scapegoat the fandom! Scapegoat nobody! His bitching at the end is a lot like why almost every brony separatist cowardly hides, whines, and cries away from "being a brony" despite being factually bronies. His commentary is nothing but a bunch of angsty stereotyping. The blind positivity is a problem, but it also is a problem in other communities. Calling this out is something that should be done, but he handled it very terribly. Rather than simply taking the ball and going home and leaving with good graces, he bashes everyone down with him. Yes, even his own friends and loyal watchers despite claiming otherwise.

 

The second you use stereotypes to back up your reasons, then you're doing nothing except being a bigot. The prejudice and stereotyping from T_O oozes of bullshit. By scapegoating the analysis community and whole brony fandom as being a collective hive mind, he shows absolutely no loyalty to not only FIM, but every other product out there. Yes, even others like Gravity Falls and Steven Universe. He showed that he never genuinely enjoyed the product since he came into this fandom.

 

But Tommy Oliver's situation is one of the worst simply because of how loyal he presumably was. He was a devout member of the analysis community, even helping thrive the BAC until it really grew. By throwing every brony under the bus after all this time, T_O doesn't come out as sincere. Instead, he comes out as a fraud!

 

There's no objectively good reason to agree with him or support him because his reasons are stupid. You use stereotypes, you deserve to be called out and have your fanhood questioned. Goodbye, good riddance.

 

this is what happens when you nitpick and overanalyze a show for kids

You're objectively wrong. The BAC analyzes and reviews this product because there's a quality level to expect. It's proven to be above "kid's show" fanfare and be a product everyone can watch and enjoy. It's an all-ages, family-friendly cartoon. Every level of media is subject to analysis, including every generation of MLP.

Edited June 7, 2015 by Dark Qiviut

[MAIKUN 262]

At least I'm NOT gonna rage quit the fandom as long I'm a Brony since 2013!

[Tom Snyder 4,112]

I'm gonna go say this:

 

I think the problem is that this is the Internet, and you can't really kick people out in the community. Every fandom has to deal with extremist fandoms. The loud ones get noticed, and the determined ones make the show well known in the first place. Is there a solution to make sure that only good people be part of the community? Can we really kick people out with opinions like the extremists?

Edited June 7, 2015 by Candy Star

[Alto 437]

@Dark Qiviut

yes that is true the story is quite interesting and enjoyable enough for teens and adults but the main demographic is kids

the story has to kept simple

ive watched some of this analytic brony vids on youtube and most have forgotten about that and expect the show to have the same complexity as avatar

Edited June 7, 2015 by Alto

[Megas 27,852]

Never liked him, always came off as an asshole

 

Good Riddance

[Misty Rose 3,216]

After actually seeing the video though, I do have to agree with him on many points. This fandom is honestly different from how it must have been in its early stages. I do see how the fandom has taken the hate a bit too far at times. If someone bothers to share an honest negative opinion with no harm intended, they get a mob after them. Sorry to say but it's true, and the show itself has also lost its touch a bit in my opinion recently to the point where I just don't enjoy it as much as I used to, and it's a sad thing really

[Kerberossz 1,929]

I don't know what to think cuz this show and the fandom(ar at least, this forum) is just about the fun for me. I have been watching analysts for a while but I have never taken these videos seriously, I do it cuz I like to hear other people's opinions but that's all. It's a show about happiness, friends and joy. Why should I have to rage if something is not right or not seems logical? I can understand that people who are obsessed about the show and wants everything match perfectly could frustrate others but saying that the entire fandom progressed into something bad is bull's wool.

[Steve Piranha 29,450]

He has a point in some places. Today's FiM is not the same as early seasons, but I don't think it's because of jumping the shark, but it's because it evolved, it's still has it's duds as great episodes as before. about the fandom, yes, there are some parts which are irritating, but in my opinion, it's was a mistake to put almost the whole fandom in th same pot. I don't completely agree with his opinion, but it's his opinion and he has all the right to leave the fandom, though, he should've been more tactful and composed in doing so 

[chirox the pony 1,336]

I find his reasons for hating the show pretty nitpicky and hypocritical, if my memory serves me correct this same guy praised magical mystery cure despite all the plot holes it had relating to cutie marks. Plus if you look at the cutie mark chronicles you'll notice that Celestia had to point out that Twilight had earned her Cutie mark, so it clearly doesn't require thought. And I don't know what series he's been watching because the series always had an episodic format, the writers really didn't plan it out like that, the lore comes from the episodes and the episodes come from the toys that's how it works, not "the episodes come from the lore and the toys come from the episodes". And I question what fanbase he thought he was apart of, by 2013 the fanbase was pretty big and logic dictates that you couldn't have a tight community of millions of people, of course people are gonna take sides on things. That's really all I have to say, if Tommy wants to leave fine, it doesn't really effect me at the end of the day but I just think this was poorly spoken and felt like the ramblings of a classic Sonic fanboy. 

[Brony Man 172]

You think that was crazy...Check out everyone's comment about it.

 

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[Gearbox10mm 794]

I actually sat through all 1:45:00 of Drowning in Horshoes Finale were he also rage quit the fandom. Apparently the two of them are in the same clique of friends.

 

I could do without all of the soap opera bickering and shenanigans within a large section of the youtube community. Their nothing but a bunch of narcissistic prima donnas. They should be doing what their doing because they enjoy it, not because they see dollar signs, and if they truly no longer enjoy the show it's probably best that they quit.       

Edited June 7, 2015 by Gearbox10mm

[Jeric 46,866]

Haven't been a fan of the show or in the community for as long as many of you, or Tommy Oliver himself. So I am not impacted by 'good ol times' bias. I'm not seeing it. Even looking at his comments and the ratio to downvotes to upvotes throughout his history ... I'm just not seeing it. I honestly think this is all on him and his changing tastes and perceptions. I completely disagree with him on many of his points. To his credit there is room for both subjective and objectively critical views of the show, but his prior video and (Fire Brands response) tackled this subject with far more class. 

 

Bad exit is bad. 

[Vae Victis 742]

Brutal, but then again, everyone can have an opinion. It's regrettable that he feels this way, but in the end, we can't change that.

[Dark Qiviut 22,491]

@, Wrong. Even though you have plenty of people being blindly positive, you also have plenty being blindly negative. The brony fandom is eclectic full of varying ranges of thoughts. There are negative opinions and reviews praised because the reasons and logic are solid, and there are positive reviews criticized for using bad logic.

 

The onus was on the people who messaged him the scapegoating bullshit. Now it's completely on T_O  because he uses the same stereotyping. He's a humongous hypocrite. There's no good reason for you or anyone here to agree with him because he's operating on the "brony fandom's a hugbox" stereotype.

Edited June 7, 2015 by Dark Qiviut

[Cleverclover 1,526]

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is exactly why I have never put that much stock into the analyst community. There appears to be a pretty high rate of analysts either going absolutely insane (i.e.Digibrony) or eventually falling out of love with the show entirely. 

Edited June 7, 2015 by Cleverclover

[baba_booey 4,303]

Meh, I never really watched his videos anyway past ones he did in his first year. And just watching that video, the second he calls out and insults MLP fans and says the show isn't good anymore, I just think "k see ya bye"

Edited June 7, 2015 by Angry Cartoon Nerd

[Vemillia Nightshade 2,247]

The title alone is already screaming jackass alert. Sorry for the language. I'm not even going to dignify the video with watching it especially from what I've read in the reply posts here. Anyway, why was he in the fandom in the first place? If it was for views and money, then it's all misguided. Then trashing the fandom? I'm sorry, do you want a punch in your schnoz?

 

Edited June 7, 2015 by Vemillia Nightshade

[ponytheorist 181]

Well, I don't really care for Tommy. I stopped watching his videos a long time ago. It's just sad to see so many talented people leaving the fandom. Digibro, Drowning in Horseshoes, MrEnter hasn't reviewed a MLP episode in ages and now also Tommy.

 

It kinda sucks

[Aleh 481]

psh. Isn't the brony analysis community pretty much known for dumb drama? Not really into over the top nitpicking but I'm not too surprised. Anybody who thinks mlp is an ultra deep intelligent show with themes to be analysed is probably thinking about things the wrong way >.< 

 

(Haven't really watched the video but tbh its fairly reasonable to dislike this fandom. So much over the top drama and cringeworthy stuff, is fair enough to not want to be in it xD Although I suppose insulting the fandom out of the blue comes across as dickish)

Edited June 7, 2015 by Aleh