Tommy Oliver Rage Quits the Fandom

[Clover Heart 978]

I don't know why it rubs you the wrong way, but it rubs me the wrong way because he's being completely closed-minded. The quality of the show has consistently gotten better since time has gone on and the lore has not only deepened, but been largely reinforced. In my opinion, season 5 is one of the best, yet. It's a bit premature to say that, but I haven't seen a single episode, yet, that I didn't like, unlike some episodes. Also, he's being way too hard on the show. MLP is actually very good with its continuity. Is it perfect? Of course not. But it does tend to keep within the boundaries it's set, unlike practically most other shows. 

 

As for the ep itself, I don't think it ruins the continuity of the show. I feel it's a really interesting aspect to explore, both within and outside the show. In the show, yes, it does tend to be an epiphany when someone gets their cutie mark. But have you never had an epiphany, only to realize you were wrong? Maybe not often, but it happens. That, and maybe it's not attempting to stay the most truthful to the story. Maybe it's, rather, attempting to make a story relatable to the viewer. It still doesn't inexplicably break continuity. It depends on your interpretation of cutie marks, obtaining them and what that all means. The fact that there is so much speculation on cutie marks is attests to the fact that cutie marks are not this one, definite thing. They're magical and mysterious and have never been explained entirely in full. So who's to say that this isn't keeping true to form? Really, it's about the way you -want- to see it.

 

And I think that's what gets me about the start of this rant. He claims that people aren't willing to think about something critically and take it seriously, but then he's not willing to see the other side of the coin. I'll admit, I'm not 100% sure on what kind of commentators he's talking about, but if it's merely in defense of the show, I don't think the opinion should be ignored, nor do I think that person's claiming that the show is perfect, necessarily.

 

That's the other thing: it's difficult to really talk about this, because I'm not sure precisely who he's talking about, in what sort of volume, what kind of things they're etc. However, being that I don't know these things, he just kinda comes off like a raging, butt-hurt doucher.

 

I feel like I'm not conveying myself very well, either, the more I write. I think it all boils down to him taking everything way too seriously. And I know, he's an analyst. It's what they do. But at the same time, this isn't life-or-death shit, here. I think often, people like this get so wrapped up in criticizing the show that they forget to see it as a show. And I think that's probably what's happened here. Additionally, while he does specifically mention the YouTube analysis community, YouTube is a festering cesspool of bile and bullshit. If you're on it long enough and if you're big enough, you're gonna see some aggravating things. That doesn't mean the fanbase as a whole has stopped caring or can't think about the show in a deep, meaningful way.

 

I'm very tired, so I think what I'm saying is deteriorating more and more the more I type. The bottom line is he's just being too hard on everyone, doesn't even wanna look at any good aspects of the situation and comes off as a complete asshat. He's pissy because he wants to be pissy. That is what I get out of this tantrum. And if this is the way he's gonna act about the MLP community, I say we're better off without him.

[Celli 4,337]

For the people who say that r34 is a recurring thing in fandoms:

 

Yes, you're absolutely right. That doesn't excuse that it still happens when it shouldn't happen. That's like saying "someone got murdered by a serial killer in my hometown, but it happens all the time around the world." It comes off as more of a justification than an explanation, especially if it's being used in defense.

So you're saying it shouldn't exist at all? And you can't compare r34 to murder. They're nothing alike.

[Ashen Pathfinder 16,161]

Just a friendly reminder to keep things on topic. While there has been dissenting opinions of Mr. Oliver's departure from the fandom, the discussion has gone on without incident. Let's keep it as such before going off topic.

 

Thank you.

[Jeric 46,850]

Just a friendly reminder to keep things on topic. While there has been dissenting opinions of Mr. Oliver's departure from the fandom, the discussion has gone on without incident. Let's keep it as such before going off topic.

 

Thank you.

 

This. Discussion is about T_O  and the analysis community. 

[Unr3alGamer 230]

This. Discussion is about T_O  and the analysis community. 

And a lot of it revolves around the problems with the analysis community addressed by T_O and T_O himself, which will turn into discussions about the overall community, which will turn into discussions about the different "sections" of bronies, which will turn into discussions about controversial topics, which will turn into flame wars, which will turn into a banned topic. 

 

Take this model, rinse, repeat. That's the way I've seen it with every major topic since I joined this forum. 

 

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On topic, I recommend giving this a listen:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH4_rSXOVo0

[Banul 3,831]

I'm not going to say anything about the brony analyst community because I don't watch any of them, but it looks like Oliver is pointing his finger at the wrong group and making himself look like an asshat in the process.

 

Normally I'd support somebody trying to get away from the negativity that spawns from the internet. It's just a shame that he's blaming this on the fandom when it looks more like a standard case of "youtuber fatigue" that I've seen with lots of other channels. One such youtuber, TotalBiscuit, was driven therapy and ultimately closed the comments on his videos because of the toxic nature of his youtube comments. It's hard for people to deal with so much hate, despite what people say about sticks and stones, ect. The discussion should be about how to change the way people interact with each other anonymously, but now its going to be about who to blame. That won't get us anywhere. You can't blame the MLP fandom or the analyst community because it's a problem exists anywhere that anonymous communication happens, especially when its not moderated as in the youtube comments. 

 

I feel some sympathy for the guy, but I really wish he didn't go about quitting the way that he did.

[Jokuc 8,173]

I don't really care, I've never even heard of the guy.

[ponytheorist 181]

 
Basically everything I think Edited June 9, 2015 by ponytheorist

[Ashen Pathfinder 16,161]

A few posts had to be hidden. Discussion of r34 content and whether or not it should exist does not belong in this discussion.

 

Again, the topic concerns Mr. Oliver and the analysis community; not r34.

 

Thank you.

[Dark Qiviut 22,378]

That's still ad hominem. You are dismissing everything he is saying and justifying it with a character assassination.

You're wrong here. He's accusing fans of attacking him and using him as a scapegoat to no longer enjoying the show. These overzealous bronies deserve no sympathy because they're influenced by people who aren't a part of the product as a reason to stop liking the product; it shows you have no resolve and lack any enjoyment of any product. Then he's going out and accusing the fans for influencing his own lack of enjoyment of the product anymore.

 

The fandom scapegoat one of the most classless, misguided excuses anyone pulls. People praise the show because they like it. By scapegoating the fandom, he tells them, "Your praise of the show is worthless. Because you like the show, you're responsible for the hugbox attitude." There's no good reason to not question his character because he guilt-tripped everyone who watched his videos; anyone who thinks otherwise is lying to themselves and everyone else.

 

He hyperbolously used the term "hivemind,"

Considering how much he sarcastically bashed the fandom and demeaned the fandom at large, you're really stretching it by claiming his accusation of calling the fandom a "hivemind" is hyperbolic. There's nothing hyperbolic about what he said. His words contain a ton of venom and have every level of sincerity, including the "hive mind" insult. The second you accuse the fandom of being a hive mind, what do you expect the collective reaction will be? The fandom isn't going to act like a sycophant and blindly suck up to this kind of attitude. People are complex and have varying degrees of tolerating attitudes until "love and tolerance" doesn't apply; this is one of them.

 

Secondly, "hive mind" and "hugbox" are pretty much the same thing. Both translate to being a group with one track of mind. In other words, he accuses the fandom entirely of being a suck-up. He's objectively wrong, "hyperbole" or not. Fandoms aren't any of the sort, period. This goes for the brony fandom, also.

 

First, if it was his honest experience with the fandom, then it isn't foolish for him to bring it up.

It's very foolish. The fandom doesn't influence your lack of enjoyment. You influence it yourself. He takes his own lack of enjoyment and plugs it in with the fans. Fans are a bonus; they have absolutely nothing to do with losing your love for a product.

 

As much as I hate to say it, idiocy comes with the territory. If T_O claimed to love the show as he said he once did, then instead of blaming the fans, he would call out the attitude, continue on with the show, and never accuse the fans of being the (accentuating) reason for no longer liking the show. Instead, he's not practicing what he preached, vilifying the fandom as a group of people who can't handle criticism. He's stereotyping, and the fact he made that much of a heel turn on the fandom with the imbecilic stereotyping makes him a fraud. Why the hell should any brony, analyst or not, feel guilty for liking the show casually? It's not so surprising to see so many people react so vicariously against him.

 

Scapegoating and stereotyping fans has absolutely no honestly whatsoever. You claim I was being intellectually dishonest when you completely use it on the wrong person. In reality, the one who's truly intellectually dishonest is Tommy Oliver for guilt-tripping the supporters of the show.

 

I said it earlier, and I'll say it here. There's no objectively good reason for you, me, or anyone here to defend T_O or praise any of his bitching whatsoever. He claims they can't handle the criticism. In reality, the one who showed to not handle criticism is himself. You can see that by how much his review quality devolved following his Cutie Map review thanks to treating the viewers as overly sensitive pricks. Instead of leaving in good graces, he got angsty, whined, and cried, and he vilified the fandom. He lacks any level of "intellectual honesty" by scapegoating the fanbase and spewing imbecilic stereotypes. You don't burn bridges like this, especially to a fandom that has supported him all this time. @ said it best: This is going to come back and bite him hard, especially if he's going to review other products and eventually apply for a job. Digibro handled himself far better by quietly sliding away, yet still trying to connect by heading to BronyCon. T_O made himself look fraudulent by accusing the fanbase of being one-track-minded and blaming the analysis community and brony fandom at large as the result of him quitting the show.

 

Anyone who blames a fanbase for no longer liking something was never a fan of the product in the first place!

 

His criticisms, when taken in a general sense, are very true.

No. The real truth is this: T_O lacks validity the second he acted like the stereotype he claims to be against. Whatever "logic" he ever attempted to pull got immediately wiped away the very second he started vilifying the fanbase and bashing both lesser experienced members of the community at large and specific members of the brony community despite not naming names. (His attack at around the 8:49 mark is also a very apparent shot at ILoveKimPossibleALot.) His entire reputation as being a solid reviewer quickly disappeared thanks to his callous attacks. Unfortunate implications exist; his vilification of the fandom creates plenty of them, and he's initiating the drama rather than addressing them and trying to solve them. Tommy Oliver's opinions of the fandom and its analysis community in his APW video are lazy, bigoted garbage.

 

He claims it's affirmation as a result of his Tanks for the Memories video. He didn't think just a little bit that it's not that, but maybe because they want him to explain what he likes about the narrative, even if he may "parrot" what others think. People come to him because his biggest strength in reviewing is the ability to focus on the narrative's very core. The Five Stages of Grief is the very core of the narrative. They want to see what he thinks about it in plenty of depth, even if some of the reasons could be the same. They want to hear him because he usually articulates the strengths and weaknesses of a narrative a lot better than many other analysts. Not everyone goes to every analyst, and not every fan has heard of guys like Quill or Wolf. For example, I wasn't a fan of Silver-Quill because I find comedy in between reviews to distract from the product; I only subscribed to him following his Twilght's Kingdom analysis, and I began to follow him more during his analyses of the comics because he shows how much he cares for not just the show, but also the high-quality craft of his content. The Voice of Reason's biggest weakness is his reviews are very brief with very little content, so even though he cares, the glass feels half-full. Digibro's Twilight's Kingdom analysis was bombarded with downvotes and very bad comments because he sounded very, very burnt out, and it affected the product. By not completely explaining his side of the Five Stages, T_O implies one of two things: either he completely missed it, or he knew it and was too lazy to talk about it. From how he said it in his latest "FIMpressions," he knew it and didn't bother to explain, so it implies he doesn't care. You're going to be criticized because they expect a good product to come from you. Provide sound reasons behind your negativity, most won't give a damn. The bronies who do or stereotype the analysis community as a bunch of cold, nitpicky nutjobs, you can ignore, call out directly in the comments (or privately in PMs), block, and/or report.

 

There's a line you don't cross. He not just crossed it. He leapt over it.

 

But on Tommy Oliver, he was generalizing the fandom with his "affirmation" argument, but generalizations do have some truth to them.

You're factually incorrect. Generalizations are a lot like stereotypes: They take a broad brush and paint a very false, prejudiced brush upon a whole group. Generalizations create caricatures of certain groups; they're inherent guilt trips. Tommy Oliver guilt-tripped an entire fandom because they like the show. The angry reception he's receiving right now isn't the least bit surprising. Why so many people are is beyond me.

 

It's pretty sad that some of you bronies are in denial that (A LOT of) people depend on someone's affirmation to make them feel less weird when watching MLP and instead just blindly bash on Oliver because he's leaving the fandom and he dares to have an opinion. Granted, his opinions are based on perceptions by over-analysis, but he still has an opinion just like the rest of us do.

Just because he has an opinion doesn't mean he gets a free pass. If his opinions are flawed and bigoted, then he's going to get his opinion, and character sincerity, questioned. Opinions can be bad in quality, can be invalid, and can be wrong. His opinions in that video are bad, lack any validity whatsoever, and are completely wrong because he's stereotyping and vilifying a fandom. Rather than being professional and mature about the whole thing, he treats the fandom as a hugbox. Fandoms are never hugboxes.

 

They didn't censor him. He censored himself.

 

They aren't the result of him leaving. He is the result of himself leaving.

 

They aren't responsible of him no longer enjoying the product. He is responsible for not enjoying the product.

 

He sealed his own fate. The Brony Analysis Community will now be better off without him.

Edited June 9, 2015 by Dark Qiviut

[Steve Piranha 29,414]

Just a friendly reminder to keep things on topic. While there has been dissenting opinions of Mr. Oliver's departure from the fandom, the discussion has gone on without incident. Let's keep it as such before going off topic.

 

Thank you.

Yeah, I expected a polemic thread like this to get out of control and be closed by now 

 

 

I don't know why it rubs you the wrong way, but it rubs me the wrong way because he's being completely closed-minded. The quality of the show has consistently gotten better since time has gone on and the lore has not only deepened, but been largely reinforced. In my opinion, season 5 is one of the best, yet. It's a bit premature to say that, but I haven't seen a single episode, yet, that I didn't like, unlike some episodes. Also, he's being way too hard on the show. MLP is actually very good with its continuity. Is it perfect? Of course not. But it does tend to keep within the boundaries it's set, unlike practically most other shows. 

 

As for the ep itself, I don't think it ruins the continuity of the show. I feel it's a really interesting aspect to explore, both within and outside the show. In the show, yes, it does tend to be an epiphany when someone gets their cutie mark. But have you never had an epiphany, only to realize you were wrong? Maybe not often, but it happens. That, and maybe it's not attempting to stay the most truthful to the story. Maybe it's, rather, attempting to make a story relatable to the viewer. It still doesn't inexplicably break continuity. It depends on your interpretation of cutie marks, obtaining them and what that all means. The fact that there is so much speculation on cutie marks is attests to the fact that cutie marks are not this one, definite thing. They're magical and mysterious and have never been explained entirely in full. So who's to say that this isn't keeping true to form? Really, it's about the way you -want- to see it.

 

And I think that's what gets me about the start of this rant. He claims that people aren't willing to think about something critically and take it seriously, but then he's not willing to see the other side of the coin. I'll admit, I'm not 100% sure on what kind of commentators he's talking about, but if it's merely in defense of the show, I don't think the opinion should be ignored, nor do I think that person's claiming that the show is perfect, necessarily.

 

That's the other thing: it's difficult to really talk about this, because I'm not sure precisely who he's talking about, in what sort of volume, what kind of things they're etc. However, being that I don't know these things, he just kinda comes off like a raging, butt-hurt doucher.

 

I feel like I'm not conveying myself very well, either, the more I write. I think it all boils down to him taking everything way too seriously. And I know, he's an analyst. It's what they do. But at the same time, this isn't life-or-death shit, here. I think often, people like this get so wrapped up in criticizing the show that they forget to see it as a show. And I think that's probably what's happened here. Additionally, while he does specifically mention the YouTube analysis community, YouTube is a festering cesspool of bile and bullshit. If you're on it long enough and if you're big enough, you're gonna see some aggravating things. That doesn't mean the fanbase as a whole has stopped caring or can't think about the show in a deep, meaningful way.

 

I'm very tired, so I think what I'm saying is deteriorating more and more the more I type. The bottom line is he's just being too hard on everyone, doesn't even wanna look at any good aspects of the situation and comes off as a complete asshat. He's pissy because he wants to be pissy. That is what I get out of this tantrum. And if this is the way he's gonna act about the MLP community, I say we're better off without him.

 

I think the fact that he now watched episodes in order to make his videos played a big part of his progressively less interest in FiM, as those works starts as fun, but they eventually evolve more as a shore. It's a slightly common phenomenon. 

I couldn't agree with this guy more. Everyone has there opinion, But no need TO BITCH OVER EVERY LITTLE THING THATS "wrong" WITH THE FANDOM! 

All fandoms have their rotten apples, and he made a mistake to put the whole brony fandom in the same basket to start. Also, if he had so many problematic douches insulting him, there's a simple solution to that, it's called "block user"

 

As many points as he makes, I can't support him in any sort of way. 

 

His exit was understandable but most definitely unprofessional and rash. 

 

Let's start with the good (just how he would do it)

 

He makes some valid points, he really does and i have a few things to say. This being the most important, This community, I haven't been in very long but I have to say it isn't always open minded or level headed. I regret reading through comments on videos or in analysis because their is that good portion this video was aimed at out there. They get offended too easily and when they do they become hostile towards those with another opinion. I'm sorry but BE RESPECTFUL! I don't know how many people I've talked to people on this forum who have been hurt by other Bronies, other fans of the show due to the fact that they have a different opinion. Well if you go and cry and yell everytime someone disagrees with you then you will be crying the majority of your life. Sure, you don't have to agree. You most certainly don't have to like it. You can even express your opinion to them, but for ****'s sake act like an adult, or if you can't then at least professional... or try to be. For all you who get butthurt too easily, who insult or berate others for what they think. Then you are the pitiful and the pathetic Tommy was talking about. If you have an issue with what i said, then feel free to speak your mind. NOT insult me for my opinion. Some opinions I'd like to share that would get me verbally murdered on this community... 

 

- I dislike Derpy

- I really like Diamond Tiara

 

Two I've got the most crap about ^^

 

Now another thing, Administrators. I hate to call you out on anything but I reallt WANT you to step up on this site when it comes to figthing and stuff like that. I know two people who got bullied off this site due to the fact they had their own opinion. And one of the reason's they were bullied was because of their Religious beliefs. That irks me that just because i believe in something that I'll get insulted, discriminated for it. I have yet to have that issue but I know people that have. So please keep that in mind. 

 

Also I just want to close by saying this, with the amount of "hate" in this fandom (not necessarily the site) is SO ironic. We all love/like the MLP: FRIENDSHIP IS MAGIC!  And yet some of us can't bring themselves to treat each other with a little respect. Now let me be clear... not everyone is like this but there are some people, believe it or not. But isn't it ironic... the show about friendship generates one hell of a lot of hate and provides little tolerance and respect towards each other. So what's with that? Y'all watch the show don;t you? Then why do you do what you do. "I ship Her and him", well if you like it then say why your ship is better but say it like this... "I personally like this ship because..." Don't berate others ideas because guess what... THEY see those characters together NOT YOU but THEM. Another example, "I disliked this episode" well don't be like "NO! How dare you..." How dare you what? Think for yourself. Have your own opinion. Be a diverse human being that no one are alike. Not everyone agrees or else the world would be perfect. And it's not and never will be in this day and age.

 

So... let me clarify. I am addressing my points to those it applies to. Not the fandom in general

 

Now the Bad, I disagree with his points as well.

 

He generalized, which is really bad.

 

I straight up disagreed with his thoughts on the show but I respect his different opinion. 

 

I want to criticize one thing. Tommy Oliver was hypocritical and unprofessional the WHOLE time. Regardless of whether or not he was aware of it, doesn't make it alright by any means. As an analyst with thousands of subscribers and people watching him. People which you can influence.... YOU NEED TO ACT PROFESSIONAL, TOMMY! I understand you're fed up and you have distaste in the whole situation but that doesn't give the right to say "to hell with it" and act the way you did. You should of explained your points with a level head and been what you wanted the fandom to be. LEAD BY EXAMPLE. Also, all the people who read what I'm typing, do you respond better when you're yelled at and told to do something or talked to kindly and asked? Rhetorical question...

 

Anyways... I want to move on from this, I'm tired. Goodnite everypony, hope my points came across... feel free to share your opinions, RESPECTFULLY. 

Poor sense of will it's not a problem exclusively of the fandom, everything that amasses people thend to lack their own sense of will and follow the crowd to feel accepted, and attacks anyone who differs

 

The brony fandom on youtube is pretty effing toxic, not going to lie. I'm not surprised Tommy did what he did, and I don't exactly disagree with what he said either. 

 

The forums (for the most part, minus those ' why do people like X character so much, I don't get it cause they sux and is mary sue'  topics  ) are much less horrid and are pretty level headed, but part of that is because we have moderators who keep the trolling and too negative people in their place. Youtubers like Tommy have no moderators and actually make a living off of their opinions, and it basically hems them in and constricts any amount of creativity they had to begin with. 

 

Drowning in horseshoes left as well, although he never was a brony analyst to begin with, though he did his analysis exceptionally well he was a parody channel and always intended on leaving and taking the ones he liked with him, one of which WAS Tommy. 

 

The show has a number of seasons left, and I'm sure there will be those to fill the void. I may even do it myself, but I wouldn't want to make a living off of it for the same reason Tommy ended up leaving for, he had to sensor himself because of his rabid unreasonable fans. 

 

If I did it though, I would pull a Pewds and just turn off the comment section and set up a place where folks can comment and have moderators deal with the toxic types. That sounds harsh sure, but one look at the comment section of a youtube vid will tell you that sh*t is broken as f*ck. 

Yes, the forums are pretty quick in handling bad apples here  . As you said, youtuby makes you more vulnerable to attacks, but people are unaware they are not defenseless against their attackers, from the simple "block user" button, to involve the law if they go too far 

[Buck Testa 5,505]

 

 

Yes, the forums are pretty quick in handling bad apples here  . As you said, youtuby makes you more vulnerable to attacks, but people are unaware they are not defenseless against their attackers, from the simple "block user" button, to involve the law if they go too far 

 

you could do that sure, but big channels like that get LOTS of comments, and one person who is making content regularly just wouldn't have the time/energy to comb through and ban every single detractor, plus its less views for them because the banned folks cant watch anymore. Its a whole thing that could be dealt with by having a couple of moderators instead, which youtube just doesn't really allow for. 

[Jeremiah 1,586]

 

Basically everything I think

I completely agree, completely

[Unr3alGamer 230]

 

 

You're factually incorrect. Generalizations are a lot like stereotypes: They take a broad brush and paint a very false, prejudiced brush upon a whole group. Generalizations create caricatures of certain groups; they're inherent guilt trips. Tommy Oliver guilt-tripped an entire fandom because they like the show. The angry reception he's receiving right now isn't the least bit surprising. Why so many people are is beyond me.

 

What I meant by "generalizations do have some truth to them" was that generalizations are based off of perceptions because someone saw one person from group y do x. If not everyone in group y does x, it is a generalization and not entirely true, but is true for at least some people in said group. I agree, not every brony is in need of affirmation, hence why I put "some" in my post. 

 

 

 

Just because he has an opinion doesn't mean he gets a free pass. If his opinions are flawed and bigoted, then he's going to get his opinion, and character sincerity, questioned. Opinions can be bad in quality, can be invalid, and can be wrong. His opinions in that video are bad, lack any validity whatsoever, and are completely wrong because he's stereotyping and vilifying a fandom. Rather than being professional and mature about the whole thing, he treats the fandom as a hugbox. Fandoms are never hugboxes.

 

Well, there's at least someone I can agree with on the matter that opinions can be true and false and aren't entirely subjective. 

 

I didn't word myself correctly, when I mentioned his opinion, I was meaning his opinion of the show. He can have a free pass on that. That was bad wording on my part.

[The Professor...8D 823]

Well.................he's half right.............half wrong............there are some Crazies int his fandom............and i have noticed a high volume of........"zealots" on youtube.............but hey.......it's the internet............so I'm not really surprised.....8D

[Steve Piranha 29,414]

you could do that sure, but big channels like that get LOTS of comments, and one person who is making content regularly just wouldn't have the time/energy to comb through and ban every single detractor, plus its less views for them because the banned folks cant watch anymore. Its a whole thing that could be dealt with by having a couple of moderators instead, which youtube just doesn't really allow for. 

Yes, you can't get rid of all of the douches, but ot's not complicated to block some of them at a time. Yes, less users to watch your videos, but why I would want people who watch my videos just to insult me? 

[BrawnySpirit2000 33]

Honestly, I think if he ignored the people that seemed to tick him off, he would have been fine. I personally feel as if he was looking for a way out without admitting that he had gotten tired of it.

[NotoriousSMALL 1,984]

He posted a follow up that is relevant to him leaving the fandom.

[Roughshod 719]

Along with the Horseshoe finale I found it quite insightful and plain amusing.

 

He posted a follow up that is relevant to him leaving the fandom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvql4X-YK8M

Some further clarity after the fallout was needed. He directly references the Horseshoe finale as well, haha. Apparently the joy from analysis(if there ever was any for Oliver) died away long ago. It's actually kind of depressing.

[Bill_theBrohny 31]

i agree kinda but he could have been more.......graceful

[Buck Testa 5,505]

Yes, you can't get rid of all of the douches, but ot's not complicated to block some of them at a time. Yes, less users to watch your videos, but why I would want people who watch my videos just to insult me? 

You make a good point. It really comes down to "is this hateful person worth the money he brings in in views"

[Ashen Pathfinder 16,161]

Tommy's followup video was MUCH better as explaining his motivation, and I am much more sympathetic to his situation. Granted that doesn't excuse his vitriolic rant in the previous video, but I can get past that.

 

In any case Tommy admits to not really having a love for critique (which pretty much confirms Jerry Peet's assessment in that regard), and with his his thoughts clashed with the direction MLP, he just got burned out, and it didn't help that he forced himself to continue for the 'easy money.' In a sense I really can't blame him, though he really should've moved on sooner.

 

With that, he also states there will no no Steven Universe reviews, nor reviews of any other show. He is simply done with that and looking ahead to other projects. The future of his main channel is in question.

 

As such I wish him luck in his future endeavors.

[J.T. 1,843]

This makes me sick . He had a good easy thing going and he not only gave it up for nothing,but also managed to insulted and slandered the community that has supported him the last few years in the process :okiedokielokie: .

[Limeblossom 482]

Blaming the fandom for it was not so smart.

 

I forgot which episode reviewed so.... oh my . That episode?

[Mesme Rize 15,683]

He posted a follow up that is relevant to him leaving the fandom.

 

You know, if he had posted this first and not posted the vid before, i would've respected that. Too bad that he now tainted his name with that vid that he posted before and that this current vid just seems like an attempt to cool the situation down. Sorry Tommy, sympathy is eternally lost from me.

 

And it's just like i thought. He did this for the money, because he was just too afraid to get a real job. But now he actually has to, because Patreon dosen't pay him enough. Hopefully the reality tastes good for you. Didn't he say in one of his videos something along the lines of "If you're in it for the likes/money/whatever, then you're in it for the wrong reason?" Hypocrite. Absolutely disgusting.

 

Again. Good Riddance. You don't need to go home, but you can't stay here.