S08:E05 - Grannies Gone Wild

[Dark Qiviut 22,393]

56 minutes ago, Sinvanor said:

1.) Make sure they get their naps - How many? When?

Number and time don't matter. If the grannies start feeling too tired, then that means it's time for them to nap so they rejuvenate for later. That doesn't mean forcing them to nap when they're not exhausted so Dash can sneak off to the coaster.

56 minutes ago, Sinvanor said:

2.) Eat only soft foods - Clear

Soft food =/= soup. There's flexibility in what they can eat. And, yes, nachos, too.

56 minutes ago, Sinvanor said:

3.) Careful with dancing - So what dancing would be considered not careful?

Quite a bit. Cartwheeling, splits, backflips, aggressive twirls and spins that can get you dizzy if you don't know what you're doing, holding onto a partner as she balances in the air, dancing on a chair or table, somersaulting, etc.

Secondly, dancing is physically demanding, and dancers dance several hours a day to prepare for them. There's a high injury risk when dancing, with ankles sprains being the most common traumatic injury. None of the grannies dance close to as much as a professional dancer, but their age requires care, nonetheless.

56 minutes ago, Sinvanor said:

4.) Don't get too excited - That is so amazingly vague it makes me angry.

Not getting too excited =/= not allowing them to have any level of fun. They're perfectly okay to concentrate, eat beyond the boring, dance, and take part in a magic show with a 100% safety record.

56 minutes ago, Sinvanor said:

6.) "If one of them over does it, it's bye bye Las Pegasus for the lot of ya" - Why? I mean if one of them actually got hurt, sure, but does AJ have no faith that these adult women are too incompetent/fragile to not watch after themselves even a little? These gals go every single year. Perhaps Big Mac doesn't treat them with the same fragility.

AJ's ultimatum is completely justified. The grannies' health is the chaperone's responsibility. Big Mac's gone with them every year previously, so he knows how to interpret the rules to maintain their health and not bore the trip. Dash tried (and failed) to manipulate the guidelines so she can get on the roller coaster, leading her to be extra cautious and make the rules much more rigid than what Big Mac and AJ wanted.

I already wrote this before, and I'll write it again — AJ's rules are common sense guidelines. Let them have fun, but exercise your judgment along the way.

Edited May 2, 2018 by Dark Qiviut

[Thrond 3,263]

On 5/2/2018 at 2:23 PM, Dark Qiviut said:

Not getting too excited =/= not allowing them to have any level of fun. They're perfectly okay to concentrate, eat beyond the boring, dance, and take part in a magic show with a 100% safety record.

It's still really vague. 

 

[Luminance 2,186]

Ohh...Applejack...you must be using your earth pony magic to remind and enlighten Rainbow Dash. Ingenious clever pone.

[JCKane 345]

Hello, here to comment on aanother video and yeah this one wan't too bad.  Few notes I had while watching it.

First off: Oh snap... the currency exchange with the flirting granny with the bel-hop pony was hilarious.  Should have accepted it with his hoof

Is it just me, or of those two magicians, one makes me thing of a male Trixy?  Even a trixy like escape!

 

Yeah, didn't want to revise what I wrote but eh.  Again interesting and then the whole 'next year' thing which in this series, you never know when  year has taken place.  Seriously.

[Here No Longer 5,276]

I just watched it and I was amazed.

There's things I like about this episode and things I REALLY like about this episode. But I might as well talk about the latter because it's enough for me to say this saved my perception that the season was going to go in the trash bin, after watching "The Maud Couple" and especially after the disaster known as "Fake It 'Til You Make It."

I thought the humor was exceptionally well done, especially the line where they talk about riding the rollercoaster on mornings they don't remember. They really are wild grannies aren't they? Makes it sound like they got a few too many appletinis before going on there. I also really thought the way Applesauce flirted with half of the stallions at the hotel was really funny.

I really like how they treated Rainbow Dash. She selfishly neglects her duties at the academy to ride a roller coaster. She actually gets PUNISHED for that, by having to take these old ladies along and following ALL of Applejack's little rules. But after suffering through that for most of the day, she gets rewarded for having to watch over them by getting to do what she wanted to do in the first place. I am wowed by that, because RD's ego problem often goes unpunished, and here it's actually different.

 

I give this one a 9.5/10. Really well done on this one, and a huge turnaround.

 

 

 

 

[Dark Qiviut 22,393]

11 minutes ago, Barik said:

I really like how they treated Rainbow Dash. She selfishly neglects her duties at the academy to ride a roller coaster. She actually gets PUNISHED for that, by having to take these old ladies along and following ALL of Applejack's little rules. But after suffering through that for most of the day, she gets rewarded for having to watch over them by getting to do what she wanted to do in the first place. I am wowed by that, because RD's ego problem often goes unpunished, and here it's actually different.

That's quite opposite of what usually happens. Too often, Dash episodes beat her down so excessively in order to teach her a lesson that the tone can be really unpleasant. GGW differentiates things because after committing that big mistake, she tries to do the right thing and goes overboard to make sure she rightfully earns that right to go on that coaster. Her chaperoning was excessive, but understandable, making it very difficult not to root for her. Dash was sympathetic here, and the episode never made her out to be a terrible person.

Edited June 2, 2018 by Dark Qiviut

[Allen 1,387]

Rainbow Dash wants to ride on the Wild Blue Yonder roller caster at Las Pegasus, so that ride was thrilling for her and the grannies! What an excitement for that ride!  Applejack is telling the truth for Rainbow Dash in a vision when she's in Las Pegasus going for that ride with the grannies, so that truth worked well at the ending part before heading back to Ponyville. 

[DubWolf 17,262]

Felt sorry for Dash the whole time :U

I really liked Cherry Berry's occupation as a balloonist  .

This was cute  

 

 

 

EDIT: Apparently she's always done this, like throughout most seasons, I guess I never noticed until now or took special attention to it  .

Edited June 11, 2018 by WWolf

[Megas 27,610]

On 6/1/2018 at 10:18 PM, Barik said:

I am wowed by that, because RD's ego problem often goes unpunished, and here it's actually different.

Dude they've dedicated entire fucking episodes to punishing her for her ego

Several times

[Here No Longer 5,276]

On ‎6‎/‎20‎/‎2018 at 10:34 PM, Whomps said:

Dude they've dedicated entire fucking episodes to punishing her for her ego

Several times

...? I don't know what you're talking about. This is literally the only time I've seen it punished in the last two or three seasons...

[Senko 459]

You know one of these day's I want to see Dash getting dressed or undressed for her job with Wonderbolts just to figure out how they fit into those skintight one pieces.

I rather enjoyed this episode especially the cats lots of little details with them like the Siamese one trying desperately to get away then just slumping there with a depressed look on its face at being forced to hear the tree story again.

With regards to Applejack's instructions I think that was just a mix of her knowing Dash is a very excitable tomboy and her knowing her Grandma's group but not making the connection between Dash taking her instructions too far. Most of them weren't actually the thing Dash does.

1) Make sure they get their naps. Dash tried to have them take a nap as soon as they arrived so she could ride the coster rather than when they were showing they were actually tired.

2) Eat only soft foods. This one's an iffy one I think one of the grandmares had just gums but granny smith could probably have handled the nachos.

3) Careful when dancing. They're old ponies and we know Granny Smith has a saggy hip so they could really hurt themselves here but Dash stopped them as soon as they started rather than knowing where the line is between Dancing with care and not dancing at all. The instruction wasn't no dancing it was just to be careful.

4) Don't get too excited. Could be read in a few way's either don't let them get overexcited which really requires a knowledge of them or it could have been meant for Dash not to get too excited and go overboard.

5) Don't let them out of your site EVER. Yet Applejack still say's Dash will find time to ride the coaster and may have a good time with the grannies implying she expected them to be on the coaster with Dash to me.

Dash was adorable here so many expressions frustrated, sad, sad with sim (I missed that one till it was pointed out here wouldn't mind playing a my little pony sims), happy, sheepish when she realized she'd interrupted Lyra and Bonbon's photos and her use of her wings to hold the scroll and direct the granny's was adorable. Nice she was inducted into the club though I wonder why there's no other golden horsehoe girls between the granny's and her.

EDIT
As for the title Granny's gone wild I couldn't help but think of an old blue seed Omake I wont subject others here too.

Edited July 2, 2018 by Senko

[bigbertha 414]

I really enjoyed this episode. This episode actually inspired me to watch The Golden Girls and now that I understand the references, this episode is even better. The comedy is pretty strong in this episode. The best part was Apple Sauce flirting with the staff.

I don't think Applejack's instructions were too unreasonable, though the  "not letting the grannies out of your sight" rule was a bit unfair.

I'd say the biggest issue is that at the end, Rainbow becomes a part of the Golden Horseshoe Gals while all we saw was her messing things up. The only thing we saw them do together was go on the roller coaster. This ending would have felt more earned if there was a montage of Rainbow and the grannies having fun together aside from just the roller coaster.

Score: 9/10

Edited September 29, 2018 by bigbertha

[Senko 459]

17 minutes ago, bigbertha said:

I really enjoyed this episode. This episode actually inspired me to watch The Golden Girls and now that I understand the references, this episode is even better. The comedy is pretty strong in this episode with the grannies trying to have fun. The best part was Blanche (Apple Sauce) flirting with the staff.

I don't think Applejack's instructions were too unreasonable, though the  "not letting the grannies out of your sight" rule was a bit unfair.

I'd say the biggest issue is that at the end, Rainbow becomes a part of the Golden Horseshoe Gals while all we saw was her messing things up. The only thing we saw them do together was go on the roller coaster. This ending would have felt more earned if there was a montage of Rainbow and the grannies having fun together aside from just the roller coaster.

Score: 9/10

I suspect Granny Smith at least has a fairly good idea of what Rainbow Dash is normally like and the discovery her grandfilly was the one who gave Dash her rules combined with the fact Dash was giving up what she wanted to do to try and follow them played a part in their decision. I do agree a montage of them having fun after the reveal ending in the roller coaster would have been nice though.

[Varrack 1,080]

I want to say the moral of this episode is don't be judgmental, but none of this was RD's fault...it was AJ's. AJ's assumptions almost ruined RD's opportunity to ride the coaster. I'm not sure why the end of the episode made it seem like RD was the one who needed to learn a lesson, given that this would've gone very differently had AJ not been overprotective.

[Buttonmash1973 1,026]

On 6/11/2018 at 11:00 AM, WWolf said:

Felt sorry for Dash the whole time :U

I really liked Cherry Berry's occupation as a balloonist  .

This was cute  

 

 

My favorite part.

[MLPFanatic34 3,234]

I loved this episode especially the interaction between Rainbow Dash and the grannies, I enjoyed seeing Rainbow try so hard to keep the grannies out of danger only to ruin their fun. The bit with Trixie's dad and his partner was fantastic and the whole episode gave me vibes of The Hangover movie. The moral was heartwarming and man can Granny Smith really dance  10/10.

[Larrydog 320]

I like this episode for two reasons because I got to see Trixie's dad and his boyfriend and hehe I'm a svengallop fanboy and I'm glad I got to see him again for a few seconds I hope that happens more  (or gets another episode in season 9) and the rest of the episode was meh nothing stood out about it for me

[Van123 29]

I like that episode where those characters that resemble ricky and martin

[bigbertha 414]

This episode doesn't hold up as well on rewatch. While there are many funny moments, a lot of it is just the same thing of the Grannies doing something and Rainbow trying to stop them on top of a majority of Rainbow's dialogue being about how amazing the Wild Blue Yonder is. It gets repetitive. 

Score: 6/10

[qwerE 96]

This episode was just ordinary. Not so funny, nor too bad. I felt bad for the grannies most of the time, but I don't think RD is the one to blame. While I do think Applejack's the one responsible for this, I kind of understand her as well. She just has a tendency to be overprotective. There has been an episode about this with Applebloom, where she couldn't let her be in the house all alone. Being overprotective sure is a problem, but AJ acts that way out of a good cause, so I don't think it's something to hate her on.

[bigbertha 414]

This is a pretty dull episode. Most of the scenes play out in the same way, the jokes aren't that funny for the most part, and Rainbow is really one note here.

Score: 5/10

[Thrond 3,263]

Do the grannies really need to be babysat like this? They seem to imply that Applejack is overreacting. Maybe Rainbow should have just asked them about it; surely they know their own limitations. Can't imagine they would want to hurt themselves. 

I liked this one a bit less this time around, and that has to do with Rainbow's behaviour here. That she's overprotective is the point, but it doesn't seem like she really cares; every time she remembers Applejack's list, she also remembers that she might miss the roller coaster; she never puts any original thought into what might be best for the grannies. Even at the end, she says she's worried about missing the roller coaster but has little to say about the grannies' health. It makes her seem selfish, which worked fine in the earlier seasons but seems increasingly inappropriate as she's given more responsibilities. I find her hard to sympathise with or relate to in this episode, and she gets none of the good jokes. She's a drag, which is the point, but it's not much fun to watch. The grannies are still awesome, though; they should have had the spotlight. 

Also, they're wrong: the "fun one" is Pinkie Pie. Rainbow Dash is unreliable in that respect. 

[HedonismBot 239]

On 5/2/2018 at 4:23 PM, Dark Qiviut said:

AJ's ultimatum is completely justified. The grannies' health is the chaperone's responsibility. Big Mac's gone with them every year previously, so he knows how to interpret the rules to maintain their health and not bore the trip. Dash tried (and failed) to manipulate the guidelines so she can get on the roller coaster, leading her to be extra cautious and make the rules much more rigid than what Big Mac and AJ wanted.

I already wrote this before, and I'll write it again — AJ's rules are common sense guidelines. Let them have fun, but exercise your judgment along the way.

Perhaps common sense for someone who knows the grannies (or has experience working with elderly people in general). For one such as Rainbow Dash, not so much. How exactly was she supposed to know how excited is "too excited", or what kinds of dancing to watch out for? Plus, "Don't let them out of your sight, ever" (especially with the forceful tone in which AJ said it) is kind of hard to interpret in any way other than "these old farts actually ARE so feeble that they need to be treated like toddlers". The episode seemed to convey the idea that Rainbow Dash was 100% at fault for spoiling the grannies' fun, but Applejack was at least as much to blame.

There's also the issue of Rainbow Dash caring more for riding the roller coaster than for her duties towards the grannies. In and of itself, it was in fact selfish of her. There's just one small problem there: the roller coaster was the whole freaking reason Rainbow Dash wanted to go to Las Pegasus to begin with. Applejack was fully aware of that, but she demanded something in return for covering for Rainbow that would have rendered her trip completely pointless (if not for that VIP pass). Perhaps Rainbow should have asked around to find a different substitute instead of agreeing to AJ's terms and then looking for an opportunity to sneak away from her end of the bargain, but she wasn't the only selfish one here.

 

On 4/30/2020 at 7:03 PM, AlexanderThrond said:

Do the grannies really need to be babysat like this? They seem to imply that Applejack is overreacting. Maybe Rainbow should have just asked them about it; surely they know their own limitations. Can't imagine they would want to hurt themselves. 

Yeah, it wouldn't be the first plot that could have been resolved with proper communication. And as others have said, anyone who's too senile to know their own limitations shouldn't be going anywhere near a place like Las Pegasus.

[Megas 27,610]

3 minutes ago, HedonismBot said:

Yeah, it wouldn't be the first plot that could have been resolved with proper communication. And as others have said, anyone who's too senile to know their own limitations shouldn't be going anywhere near a place like Las Pegasus.

Thing is they're perfectly capable of taking care of themselves. There was even a comic addressing this

[HedonismBot 239]

6 minutes ago, Megas said:

Thing is they're perfectly capable of taking care of themselves. There was even a comic addressing this

Perhaps, but Rainbow Dash had no reason (initially) to know that. Without having witnessed the events of "Somepony to Watch Over Me", she would have had no reason to question Applejack's rules.