spoiler Rumored episode 10 synopsis.

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7 minutes ago, M'gann M'orzz said:

ooo yesss let the butthurt flow.

At this point I want Starlight to be in every episode just to laugh at her more uhhh dedicated haters. 

 

Anyway, if it's a Cutie Marks being switched up plot, Starlight makes sense she has the most experience with Cutie Mark magic, Twilight did it once but it was entirely by accident and it also kinda messed up her friends heads too.

I'm not sure I want to see Starlight that badly, but I don't give a flying feather about the people who would inevitably complain. Besides, I actually think she wasn't used in enough episodes last season. Her "graduation" came too quickly. But I blame Hasbro and the writers for that, rather than hating the actual character.

Starlight is still best non-Mane 6 pony for me. Deal with it.

[Jeric 46,882]

Just now, GrimGrimoire said:

If that happened window installers will be the real winners from all of the people hurling themselves through them.

I do think they have some sort of plan for her, but for some reason I don't think Alicorn is one of them though. It would echo what has come before too much and I think they want to try some new ideas. But who knows?

I would honestly be surprised if they made her an Alicorn too, also Big Jim apparently stated that they are no new plans for other Alicorns after introducing Flurry. Since they write these treatments far in advance it probably isn't in the cards. I think she is being primed as a conduit for redemption arcs, or building friendships with 'hard cases'.

It seems to be something she excels at. 

[PacificGreen 1,163]

Since this is just a rumor, I'm gonna take it with a grain of salt. By the sounds (reads? it's a forum post so it's not really a look or sound?) of you all, this is starting to sound like a real episode synopsis though. I'd kinda like someone official to confirm it, but that may not happen for a few weeks.

[CastletonSnob 3,089]

I kind of hope this synopsis is real, just for the shitstorm it would cause. 

But part of me is disappointed it's not a Thorax episode. 

Edited May 1, 2017 by VG_Addict

[FirePuppy 739]

8 minutes ago, PacificGreen said:

Since this is just a rumor, I'm gonna take it with a grain of salt. By the sounds (reads? it's a forum post so it's not really a look or sound?) of you all, this is starting to sound like a real episode synopsis though. I'd kinda like someone official to confirm it, but that may not happen for a few weeks.

Of course, rumors can also be false, and that guy named "GeorgeQGreg" (who posted that Twitter) could be just messing around with us.

[Will Guide 21,371]

I don't mind Starlight being in this episode.

Also, I now know which 2 characters will get the spotlight slots on my List of FiM episodes- (Who's in The Spotlight) blog for Season 7! Isn't that right, Royal Sisters 

Edited May 1, 2017 by WiiGuy2014

[Thrond 3,271]

That's kinda disappointing if true. I guess my dream episode starring just Celestia and Luna without any of the proper main characters was unlikely, but I'm also not sure why it needs to be a Starlight episode of all things, and I don't know how I feel about the princess sisters being hapless victims of Starlight making the same mistake yet again (seriously, it's not cute. It's kinda disturbing), since that actually makes them feel kinda useless like everyone always says they are. And having them just flatly not appreciate each other seems... off, and hopefully leads to a moral about how they appreciated each other all along or something. We already get that type of sisterly dynamic from Rarity and Sweetie Belle, no? And "switching the cutie marks" could mean a lot of things, some of which could actually be pretty fun. I rather hope that there's no "destiny" gibberish, but if there's some sort of mind swapping involved that could be especially entertaining. Even just switching their skill sets could be fun, if less conducive to pranks. 

Then again, this might not even be a thing, and the last two times I was this nervous about an episode premise were "28 Pranks Later," which turned out kinda funny, and the season 6 finale, which I love to death. I still dread this less than that Rarity/Applejack episode coming up, in any case. Plus, although I'm growing rather tired of how Starlight has acted this season, it might be interesting to see how she and the Sisters get along, and I enjoy that the problems in her episodes are frequently related to her own character flaws, even if they are getting deeply repetitive. 

Edited May 1, 2017 by AlexanderThrond

[Jeric 46,882]

26 minutes ago, VG_Addict said:

I kind of hope this synopsis is real, just for the shitstorm it would cause. 

But part of me is disappointed it's not a Thorax episode. 

I actually think he would probably be a better vector for a Royalty story staring Starlight. 

I am desperately hoping we would get to see Luna solving disputes miserably, while Tia goes nutzen in the dream world. XD. 

This needs to be about more than raising and lowering the moon/sun. 

4 minutes ago, AlexanderThrond said:

I still dread this less than that Rarity/Applejack episode coming up, in any case. 

Wait what? They confirmed a Rarijack episode this season? 

This season fucking rocks?

 

 

[Mesme Rize 15,692]

3 minutes ago, AlexanderThrond said:

That's kinda disappointing if true. I guess my dream episode starring just Celestia and Luna without any of the proper main characters was unlikely, but I'm also not sure why it needs to be a Starlight episode of all things, and I don't know how I feel about the princess sisters being hapless victims of Starlight making the same mistake yet again (seriously, it's not cute. It's kinda disturbing), since that actually makes them feel kinda useless like everyone always says they are. And having them just flatly not appreciate each other seems... off, and hopefully leads to a moral about how they appreciated each other all along or something.

I think you look at it the wrong way. In this case, Starlights magic can be very helpful as they both see it in another perspective, which can help them both appreciate each other. Sisterly problems happens in the best families (trust me, i know) and we already saw a little glimms of that in Slice of life. But after awhile, you get along again.

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2 hours ago, Nightmare Muffin said:

after learning that using magic to solve problems is WRONG

I don't think that's entirely true, that you shouldn't use magic in a world where magic is an actual thing. It might cause problems, but it can also be used to fix problems, and can be useful in everyday life. It's like saying the characters in Star Trek should know not to use technology to solve problems because of all the problems brought on by technology. Magic, like science, is a tool, and the real problems come if someone uses it incorrectly. And just as people will probably never stop making mistakes when using technology, ponies are also going to make mistakes with magic, even more than once.

And I think a difference between this episode and Every Little Thing She Does is going to be that in the latter, the entire problem and conflict was based around her using magic, while in this episode there already exists a conflict, Celestia and Luna's friendship problem. Starlight's approach will probably be seen as flawed, acting impulsively, but in the story it'll probably cause the events that do help resolve the issues between the two.

[Thrond 3,271]

7 minutes ago, Jeric said:

Wait what? They confirmed a Rarijack episode this season? 

This season fucking rocks?

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Perhaps not directly, but ugh: http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Honest_Apple

They keep doing these, but there's only two, "Sisterhooves Social" and "Trade Ya!," which I even find tolerable. 

3 minutes ago, Mesme Rize said:

I think you look at it the wrong way. In this case, Starlights magic can be very helpful as they both see it in another perspective, which can help them both appreciate each other. Sisterly problems happens in the best families (trust me, i know) and we already saw a little glimms of that in Slice of life. But after awhile, you get along again.

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The "impulsively" part of this synopsis makes me think that it doesn't turn out right, and this seems like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut, especially since it probably occurs without the Sisters' consent. And I am hoping that, if this episode happens, it's not like the sisters need someone else to teach them to appreciate each other, and that they did appreciate each other all along but have just fallen out temporarily. Right now that seems boring, but if they bring good jokes and a well-worded moral to the table I'll probably be pretty happy with it. 

[aoEAF2FBvC0MIo2Q 3,676]

This has so much potential to crash and burn like nothing we've ever seen before... But let's cross that bridge when we get there. Fingers crossed.

[That Guy with the CMB 5,876]

What? They're going to make Starlight use magic to solve relationship problems? But she knows that's wrong. Come on, I love Starlight, stop sending her backwards. ;n;

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5 hours ago, Dark Qiviut said:

 

I'm a little concerned about this one, not just with Starlight for obvious reasons, but more so Celestia and Luna. In FF#38, neither of them could get along at all to the point of being petty, annoying, and unlikeable. (Sure, SoL had them bicker, but they quickly made up.) Hopefully, the Celly/Luna tandem doesn't go that far.

Yeah but Celestia isn't open very often and Luna needs a thousand years of psycho therapy. Then that's not even addressing what caused their rift a thousand years ago in the first place, so if that ever gets addressed it could be a very good episode. Plus imagine Celestia in dreams, that'd be SO GOOD!!

41 minutes ago, StarBurstFries said:

What? They're going to make Starlight use magic to solve relationship problems? But she knows that's wrong. Come on, I love Starlight, stop sending her backwards. ;n;

With power comes corruption and poor self control. Its like throwing a big cookie in front of the cookie monster who has been told by doctors to get his blood sugar in check. He is gonna be OH I CANt STAND IT *NOM NOM NOm NOM* MMM *NOm NOM* So GOOD. And its canon for Starlight to bottle up her feels and overreact(before considering talking). People don't change over-night.

Edited May 1, 2017 by CuriUndersXeno

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The  episode Magical Mystery Cure, Starswhirl's spell scrambled the Mane 6's Cutie Marks + showed some of the consequences.  Starlight can move Cutie Marks so this is a logical extension of that power.

Over at Fimfiction, it was either RainbowDoubleDash's story Xenophilia or the side story A Rainbow Divided, Starwhirl already did that once (+ severe consequences for it).  So, this would be undoing that.  The story makes the point that their personalities ARE better suited the other way around anyway. (Of course, there is so much pony fiction it's hard to think of anything that HASN"T been done at least a few times) 

Nightmare Muffin definitely has a point.  Starlight keeps trying to use magic to force a solution to problems.  From her very 1st episode onward it is her go to solution for everything.  Well, IMO much depends on how it is handled

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5 minutes ago, CuriUndersXeno said:

Yeah but Celestia isn't open very often and Luna needs a thousand years of psycho therapy. Then that's not even addressing what caused their rift a thousand years ago in the first place, so if that ever gets addressed it could be a very good episode. Plus imagine Celestia in dreams, that'd be SO GOOD!!

But that doesn't address the elephant in the room, "appreciate." Both of them are over a millennium old, so they should be able to appreciate one another. For them not to feels out of character and lacks attention to continuity dating back to the pilot.

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1 hour ago, Dark Qiviut said:

But that doesn't address the elephant in the room, "appreciate." Both of them are over a millennium old, so they should be able to appreciate one another. For them not to feels out of character and lacks attention to continuity dating back to the pilot.

I wonder if "appreciate" is the correct term used in the synopsis? Maybe they just get into a quarrel over how easy the other one has it in their respective jobs? Even with them being around for so long, I could see a scenario where Celestia has never really faced another pony's nightmares, and Luna has always been the brooding warrior and has never had to be the optimistic diplomat.

If nothing else, hopefully the episode will shed some light on what their daily/nightly lives are really like.

As for Starlight's role, I'm not ready to proclaim this as another regression for her since the details surrounding this synopsis can vary widely. For all we know it's Celestia and Luna themselves who insist she use her special talent to switch their cutie marks and thus switch their abilities. There may even be a subtext where they let Starlight know that Twilight is incorrect in teaching her to never use magic to solve problems but instead to use it wisely. If Starlight really has graduated, such a lesson might be that she has wisdom she can teach her mentor, just like Twilight had wisdom to pass back to hers.

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1 hour ago, Dark Qiviut said:

But that doesn't address the elephant in the room, "appreciate." Both of them are over a millennium old, so they should be able to appreciate one another. For them not to feels out of character and lacks attention to continuity dating back to the pilot.

We don't know how thousand year old people are supposed to act, and their brains are probably like larger young brains. Celestia spends so much time ruling and has only been with her Sister just recently, and you can still get into arguments with family and appreciate each other, it just takes some time to cool off. For all we know its just this issue that's ticking them off. Either way its relevant to the audience even if its not relevant to them. And old people can hold grudges too or can act immature, and we don't know how different pony psychology is. Either way the test is biased for swapping their roles, because they are not currently adjusted to each other's specializations anyways, technically they would need 1k years or so of the other's occupation otherwise the moral of the story is 'stop complaining things could be worse'. But that doesn't matter much because its good for specialization and co-operation. Unless one of them is smart enough to recognize the fallacy of the role change. Being immortal the fallacy is even more relevant to them, because we need time efficiency as mortals, and they are immortal time efficiency is less important they can invest into the skills. But that'd never be a good episode it'd break apart the world building and fandom. So being technically correct isn't as important I guess due to opportunity cost.

Edited May 2, 2017 by CuriUndersXeno

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16 hours ago, Nightmare Muffin said:

Sunbutt had to raise the moon for 1000 years after Luna was gone. She also had to keep Equestria safe from monsters- which is what Luna does in the comics. How would this episode address anything that hasn't been done?

Celestia would not have visited people's dreams like Luna does.

[Buttonmash1973 1,026]

I hope for a CMC and Starlight episode.

[FirePuppy 739]

20 minutes ago, Buttonmash1973 said:

I hope for a CMC and Starlight episode.

It may happen in Hard to Say Anything, after what we saw in Rock Solid Friendship.

[Tao 8,938]

Ok so we more of the Sisters acting like a family would,  throw in childish like fighting and switch marks of the heavenly bodies? 

Oh this is going to be good!   We've been waiting for more eps on the Royal Sisters in themes of slice of life or even their past as young alicorns etc for a while!  We did get peeks at times in time to time but it was just that: a peek.   Having Starlight being the one to try to solve this is also just a good all around spice to add more to this ep if its true.   I also feel this theme might be good tie in from well "cough"  Nightmare Moon"  cough  which lead Luna down that path and sibling rivalry also with Tia.

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[Steve Piranha 29,495]

20 hours ago, M'gann M'orzz said:

ooo yesss let the butthurt flow.

At this point I want Starlight to be in every episode just to laugh at her more uhhh dedicated haters. 

 

Anyway, if it's a Cutie Marks being switched up plot, Starlight makes sense she has the most experience with Cutie Mark magic, Twilight did it once but it was entirely by accident and it also kinda messed up her friends heads too.

Starlight? What about Flashy? His presence causes more freak outs that all of Starlight's appearances  

 

I hope that synopsis is legit. We need some in-show royal sisters going bonkers  , but mainly Celly, as Luna has her share of spotlight in the show 

[FlareGun45 2,221]

Well this synopsis seems to be legit! Zap2It just confirmed it!

[ggg-2 3,555]

And this show's previously strong continuity has officially gone to crap. Celestia doesn't appreciate her little sister? Complete utter bucking bull.