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Do you have bad attitude towards vegans as people?


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1 hour ago, Kind Claw said:

Plant's do not have a brain or central nervous system so they cannot "feel" pain or perceive damage as painful

I'm sorry, but you can't argue the studies that are in the article I linked. It is a scientific fact that plants feel pain.

1 hour ago, Kind Claw said:

it takes way WAY less plants to feed 8 billion humans instead of 70 Billion land animals yearly.

As someone dieting, I can tell you this is massively false. It takes way more plant matter to get the same calories as a chunk of beef or fish. Especially if you do not want to go with high carbs which is not good for you. 

1 hour ago, Kind Claw said:

100% I guarantee that everyone would rather chop a carrot than slit a cows throat even if both of them felt pain

This is merely an emotional argument about what you think people would find distasteful. If its wrong to kill one living thing that feels pain its wrong to kill another that does as well. Any argument against this is merely a special pleading fallacy.

1 hour ago, Kind Claw said:

acting like jerks while being vegan does not mean veganism is a cult,

Never said it was. I showed how the behavior is there and common enough for people to get the idea that it acts like is

 

The fact is I do not care how a person wishes to live. But acting like one lifestyle is better ignores the reality that we ALL are going to kill living things and cause pain to live. Our diet is merely one way we do it. For example, medical projects such as antivenom or pills use animal product forcibly taken but very few vegans are going to refuse them if it will spare them illness or worse. So when its convenient or self-serving its ok to put their lives ahead of other creatures. Yet they will still preach at others about how bad what they are doing is. 


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I don't have a bad attitude towards vegans; however, I do dislike it when they try to force their view on others or when they act like others are bad because they eat meat.

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I must say upfront, I don't like the Vegan way of living. In all honesty I find it stupid and It clashes with the very base of existence of creatures in this planet. But it's only my opinion, I won't call it on you or insult you for the way you think that you should live your life. I definitely don't like the vegan idea, but people are free to choose their life and ways and I have no right or saying or telling them what to do.

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Some of them are very nice and in fact one of them stood up for me when I don't drink alcohol
and they also respected my own choices :)
But I have to say I have had bad experiences with some of them. Like an housemate who constantly got upset with certain foods around (tbh all the housemates were bad but ye she was annoying) and she go on about the poor poor animals.
There are some annoying vegan protestors who go and block the shelves of the meat aisle or go into steak houses and play animal dying noises.
Some vegan food is pretty decent tho. The thing is certain vegan foods have their own ethical issues and well I at least think that at least some animal nutrient is good. I think there are two sorts tho, ethical ones and health ones.

I do think animals deserve better treatment though.

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No I have no issues with vegans :oh_golly: as long as they don't try and force it on me I'm fine with vegans, but the moment they keep pestering me to change then I'm done :yeahno::unamused: so as long as they respect I eat meat I will respect they don't it all comes down to respecting each others choice and opinions on to eat meat or not to eat meat. :)

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If you do not want to eat meat - I am OK with that, I don't eat some meat as well (don't like the taste). However, if you are annoying because I eat meat, then, well, I probably won't like you. You can do whatever you want, just do not push your choices on me (so, essentially, don't be a dick about it).

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I support their right to be vegan if they support my right to eat bacon cheeseburgers.


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Yea, when they think animals are being tortured without knowing the full story. I have gotten a remark from a vegan about how one of our ducks were handled, and it was a negative sad tone saying "He looks so sad".

He (the drake) was not looking sad at all. He just wanted to get out to the females so he could..... brutally. And guess what? I didn't even have to explain that, since the "vegan" wouldn't listen to anything but her own opinion (in any discussion). If the duck looks sad, it is sad. That's that. :yeahno:

 

And what is sad looking? Well, large eyes. All anime characters look sad too

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I think you massively misunderstand what vegans eat. You can be a healthy, well-exercised and well-adjusted person without eating meat. The healthiest people I know don't eat meat, they even bodybuild and look like underwear models. Meat is delicious, but most of the nutrients from meat can be obtained from other sources, and there's nothing pretentious about making moral or health choices based on diet. Thinking about what you eat, why you eat it, and what the consequences are is hardly condemning.

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Well, I am a vegan and I feel that people don't understand us very well. We see animals as friends because they are sentient beings the same way humans are with the same level of consciousness. The reason we're protesting is to save those innocent animals. Animals are like little children, they are innocent and like to play together and all. We might be annoying at times, I agree and I totally get that as I used to be a non-vegan and I also used to find vegans annoying as well! The thing is it's fine to eat any food but when your food involves a victim, that's different. Humans aren't any more important than animals, they are equally important. Humans think they are more important but it's not really animals that are destroying the planet isn't it? Humans have to power of love, empathy and compassion which they use with each other but not with many species. Why not extend our love, empathy and compassion to animals as well? I think it's very important to know what's involved in the food you eat and what you're supporting by buying it. Animals are not ours and their lives are not ours to take either. They have the right to live and be free and happy. When it comes to health there is no problems with being vegan, in many cases vegans are even healthier in general. So there is no valid excuse not to go vegan. I might sound like another annoying vegan to you but I speak the truth. Whether you want to accept it and take it seriously is up to you.

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For a predatory species like humanity this idea defies natural law. Which is basically the way nature disposes life in a functional manner. But social groups are prone to spawn perceptual distortions within a context where a higher function, under the condition of unresolved complexes, overtakes instinctive behaviour compromising natural development. Similar to the gender issue in our society. This is not to say the rampant exploitation of life is not a problem. It is. And humanity is gonna pay for this, and will pay dearly, as for any other crime in history. Wounds of the past, wake up.

My disposition towards the notion is neutral. Allowing the consequence of our actions to become the lessons.

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As long as they leave me alone, I'm fine with anything. Same goes for every other creed/religion/way of life, really. I admit I get quite annoyed when people start preaching the health benefits of it, though, as if it's the only rational choice to make. I will eat as many burgers as I want, thanks, and the heart attack is entirely on me.

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I don't have a problem with peoples who don't eat something which came from animals, but I have a big problem with vegans who say to non-vegans that they are evil and have to change their live style. It is like the same with other things (religion, musical interest, whatever), let the people how they want it. When they want eat meat, let them, when they don't eat meat, let them too. I like to eat meat from time to time, but I am not a person who only eats meat, I also enjoy tasteful vegetarian/vegan dishes and I am a big fan of salad.


 

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I am extremely biased towards toxic vegans, the ones who tell others to be vegan as if it's WW1 Propaganda, And constantly make crazy statements, and i think these vegans need to realise that i don't care about the animals or the healthiness of it, they taste good and that's all i care about

And i despise the label "Meat Eater", humans have been surviving off of animals for 1000s of years, so i don't need a title just because some people don't want to eat meat

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Not really. 
 

But imma still eat meat and nothing will stop me.  Life’s hard enough as is, I don’t need to make it any more complicated by constantly being selective of what I eat.  
 

I agree with more humane practices and doing away with factory farming but that’s about as far as I go. 

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I'd happily eat fake meat versions of all the meat products I currently enjoy if they tasted similar enough, even if they cost more.

Unfortunately those options mostly don't exist (yet?). And I know I don't have the willpower to just stop eating meat cold forever; there's too few foods I enjoy eating in the first place for that to ever last. Besides, my willpower is needed elsewhere.

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To be fair my own attitude towards vegans is more due to their attitude towards myself. In fact if they wouldn't they'd learn we agree more then we disagree, for example I believe our diet should have more vegetation to it. Variety is important when it comes to nutrition, I believe that we can come to an arrangement by simply keeping our minds open to the possibilities at hand. We can not and we shall not stop eating meat for obvious reasons, doesn't mean we can't eat more vegan type of dishes. In fact I would encourage it, meat has high calories it would be ideal to have meat every week but vegetables and fruits the rest of it. We don't need to eat as much as we do.

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I don’t have a problem with vegans and I think humanity should eat less meat in general. I won’t stop eating meat completely but I only eat it a couple times a week. 

Don’t think I could give up honey or cheese so easily though.

As with any lifestyle preference, no one should force their views on others, but I think most people understand that.


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