The ending of Pinkie Apple Pie (Spoilers, obviously)

[hawkflame 3,310]

So are you guys satisfied with how the episode ended?  I know how I feel, I'm just wondering about others.

 

Personally, I kind of liked how they left the question regarding her ancestral connection to the Apples unresolved.  It leaves open hope that it could be, but even if it isn't, it's still okay- they're "family" in the way that really matters, and that's not just based on genealogy.

[pinkiefan1287 610]

I'm kinda disappointed that they didn't give us answer. For one thing they done this whole not giving us a full answer thing twice now. First with Scootaloo flying and now with Pinkie Pie and the Apples. It just kinda felt like the adventure was a waste of time and they can just go back to the whole honorary family member. Hoping they won't do this anymore. 

[Neon Fire 473]

I was disappointed they left it hanging.  It seems like they've been doing things like that with every episode.

[Jokuc 8,174]

Well I would like to know, but if we get to know it in another episode, that will be awesome. If we don't however, I think it's sad cause I want it confirmed :3

[Razzmataz 37]

I kind of liked the ambiguity and the overall message the episode left, I think I'm okay with whatever the outcome is

By the way, at the last shot of Goldin hanging up the picture on the wall, did you guys catch the blue pony?

He had Applebloom's hair color and AB and Granny Smith's eye color. Perhaps it's Granny Smith's son / AJ, AB and BM's dad?

Edited January 12, 2014 by Razzmataz

[MontagnaMagica 307]

They definitely should have told us! How would it hurt the series if they did? Their being related makes perfect sense because they are both Ponyville natives. Not to mention, I think it's really cute how much she loves to be a part of their family, even if it is a distant relationship.

 

Since it was left ambiguous, I'm OK with that too.

The only unacceptable option would have been to reveal that she was not related. That's like teasing someone with dessert, and then swiping it away at the last minute.

[Pomfritter 165]

The episode teaches something more important than being related to your friends. It teaches you that family isn't always about being related to someone. Your best friends can easily be part of your family. It's all about interpretation. That is why I am perfectly okay with the ambiguity. I'm more interested in why both the things that would reveal it were smudged. 

[TailsIsNotAlone 3,695]

I'm okay with not knowing if they're biologically related. It wasn't the destination that made Pinkie a member of the family; it was the journey. Pinkie being an Apple is canon now as far as I'm concerned.

Edited January 12, 2014 by TailsIsNotAlone

[zev_zev The outcast 415]

Of course I was a little disappointed. But I also love the open endings. 

 

By the way, I think the main reason why this series is unique is that we have no guarantee that at the end of the episode will be happy end. For example Scotalloo. If Disney made MLP, Scotalloo would fly in the end 100%. But she didn't. It's element of drama. Same with Pinkie, I just feel that she isn't part of Apple family, that's why they should not give us the answer of this question. Moreover, the need to see what impact this episode will produce in the future, perhaps no one else has to remember that Pinkie Pie is possible AJ's cousin.

[dekutree64 713]

By the way, at the last shot of Goldin hanging up the picture on the wall, did you guys catch the blue pony?

He had Applebloom's hair color and AB and Granny Smith's eye color. Perhaps it's Granny Smith's son / AJ, AB and BM's dad?

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I thought he might be their dad too, but because I remembered a picture of a blue stallion in Apple Family Reunion... but upon checking, the hair and eye colors are wrong. Although I suppose we could take that as being an animation issue, giving them dull colors so the picture will blend in as a background object.

 

I would have much preferred a clear yes or no, but it's really just that I'm still irritated by the similar cop-out on Scootaloo's flying ability a few episodes ago. It's starting to feel like the writers are terrified to canonize anything after all the Twilicorn drama.

 

Personally, I'll take the little clues like Jenga mastery as evidence enough that the answer is yes... even though I'd also be fine with the answer being no, since the whole mane 6 have been declared honorary family members already in the cider episode.

[Scootalove 10,689]

I was a bit disappointed that the writers weren't able to tell us whether Pinkie Pie is actually related to Applejack because of the ancestral connection, instead they left a floating question out there that might never be answered.

[Jammo 986]

You ever notice how Goldie Delicious has a half eaten gingerbread house (with similar bite taken out of it as Pinkie on Hearths Warming eve), she has a puffy curly mane and is kind of the not all that there in the head. I think those were meant to be hints to a relation with Pinkie.

 

I'm glad this episode didn't offer any answers. Kept the status quo but kept the fans thinking "Hmm... Maybe."

[GoneForeverBye 184]

Haven't seen the episode but I'm disappointed with this news because I can't yell "LOL INCEEEEEST" at everything Applejack/Pinkie related.

 

Well, this is probably for the best. .-.

[SBaby 660]

I thought it was just supposed to be funny.  I didn't think so many people would take it all that seriously.

Edited January 13, 2014 by SBaby

[pinkiefan1287 610]

I kind of liked the ambiguity and the overall message the episode left, I think I'm okay with whatever the outcome is

By the way, at the last shot of Goldin hanging up the picture on the wall, did you guys catch the blue pony?

He had Applebloom's hair color and AB and Granny Smith's eye color. Perhaps it's Granny Smith's son / AJ, AB and BM's dad?

ete.png

 

This pony showed up in, Apple Family Reunion.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dymm29Agg4

 

What kinda dad ask his own daughters name? Most likely just a random family member.

[Sugar Cube 4,843]

I was expecting the episode to confirm that Applejack and Pinkie Pie were not cousins. I was actually amazed that they took a more open ending instead as it leaves the possibilities up to the fans for now. To be perfectly honest, I would prefer if the two had been confirmed not to be cousins because then the emphasis on what truly makes a family would have felt a bit stronger. I was expecting Applejack to comfort Pinkie Pie and tell her that she is family regardless of what their actual genealogy is, which she did, but it would have worked a little better if Pinkie knew for sure she wasn't part of the family. Also, you'd think Pinkie Pie would keep searching for the answer just to be sure, but I doubt we will see this in future episodes. And if they aren't cousins then all of the ApplePie shipfics and fanart will be safe.

 

On the positive side, we might see Applejack and Pinkie Pie continue to grow even closer from this experience and I for one don't mind a little bit of mystery. If they are cousins, that would be a very interesting twist. Given the similarities between Pinkie Pie and Goldie Delicious, there might just be some merit to the concept.

Edited January 13, 2014 by Sugar Cube

[silvadel 1,393]

I think it was REALLY suspicious that BOTH records had smudges in the same place.  Something is being hidden.

[hawkflame 3,310]

I think it was REALLY suspicious that BOTH records had smudges in the same place. Something is being hidden.

Or both were copied directly from the same smudged source.

[silvadel 1,393]

Or both were copied directly from the same smudged source.

Then the writing wouldn't be smudged -- it would be pristine but illegible.  And yes while they did do things like that in the old old days (which includes equestrian books) it doesn't make sense that the original documents would be that bad without dealing with it.

 

The other thought is this : shouldn't Twilight be able to cast a spell to figure this out?

 

1) Some spell to make the writing more legible (temporarily)

2) Some spell to see if they are related.

 

If there is no such thing as a spell to do #2 then it would make it more understandable that Mr. Cake did not do a paternity test on Pound and Pumpkin.

[hawkflame 3,310]

Then the writing wouldn't be smudged -- it would be pristine but illegible.

I don't know about Golden Delicious, but I think Twilight would be anal enough to have the smudge precisely replicated.

[silvadel 1,393]

I don't know about Golden Delicious, but I think Twilight would be anal enough to have the smudge precisely replicated.

As I said -- pristine but illegible.  Precisely copied -- yes scribes did do that at times if you go back far enough through time.

[Forlong 1,726]

The purpose of leaving it ambiguous was to show how much Pinkie meant to AJ.  Applejack was the one that doubted Pinkie's relation, and decided to take the family on a trip to find out for sure.  The fact that she's sure even though there is room for reasonable doubt speaks volumes as to how much Pinkie means to her.

 

Having her not be an Apple and become an "honorary" member would be corny, stupid, and unnecessary.  She was already dubbed an honorary family member in Super Cider Squeezy 6000.

 

Having her confirmed to be an Apple would cheapen the meaning of the lesson.  Going the rout they did lets them have it both ways.

[SomariFeyWright 776]

Despite what some might think, I think leaving it open was the best way of getting the message across, as- Actually, I'll just give you a snippet from my review of the episode on its thread.

 

 

 

Another thing I like is that it never fully answers the question the episode obviously brings up: Is Pinkie Pie really an Apple? If they had set themselves on an answer, the impact of accepting Pinkie into the family one way or the other wouldn't have been nearly as powerful. Had she been an Apple, well, easy does it. Had she not been an Apple, it would've been a basic turn-around with more certainty and acceptance. No, rather, it left it open. Not only for the viewing audience, but for the characters as well, leaving a sense of indecision and doubt in both audiences. Yet every Apple, right then and there, took Pinkie in without a second thought, despite the lack of assurance or concrete evidence.

[~Silver Essence~ 2,625]

Seems a lot of episodes have been doing this lately, but there might be a purpose why soon...

 

Anyways, despite that, I do think they are related, as Goldin's hair, actions, and ability to pick the book from under like pinkie pie in the beginning of the episode makes me think they are connected somehow....