Which gender do you think has it better?

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[Hastur 505]

I say guys have it better... we never have to go through child birth.

[Lucky Bolt 35,063]

Neither. Both genders have their own equal fair share of good and bad. 

[Sunny Fox 5,950]

Heads up: a cisgender white male is responding to this. Just giving some context here.

I think the OP is confusing what gender someone is as opposed to what sex someone is. (Yes, there is a difference - look it up).

Based purely on the, shall we say, "plumbing" aspects, definitely men have the better deal. No monthly cycles, no child-birth, and in related news, no soon-to-be-kid constantly kicking your bladder and other organs from the inside. And culturally, it isn't much better. Women can't run around shirtless on most beaches (exceptions exist), are oppressed in most traditional societies/cultures where they are viewed as either property or corruptors of their male counterparts rather than human beings with their own rich internal experiences (and even the societies who have developed beyond that point have taken far too long to throw off such shackles of tradition as regards equality (not sameness) of the sexes.)

Women get paid less in general for the same job, are expected to maintain a household rather than a career (this is changing, admittedly, nice to see) and in most cases, have the issues affecting them the most being entirely under the control of the men in their communities (Alabama, looking at you... pass whatever laws you wish, but how about you get some women to advice you regarding the best way to use their uteruses? KThanxBye!)

About the only area where women have the advantage is in clothing choices, and lack of a refractory period. 

I am entirely open to having my mind changed, though, so weigh in if you like.

[Dreambiscuit 9,820]

I don't think one has it any better than the other. I mean, each has its fair share of strengths and weaknesses that the other wouldn't want to have. So I'd say equal but different. 

[Meson Bolt 2,648]

I mean... I'm in the Army, and most of the women I know are also in the Army, so. Take that as you will.

Socially, I'd say that men have it a bit easier. It used to be a very big margin, but it's shrunk very much as of late. It's easier to find a job as a man, I feel like you're a bit more respected, although you're also expected to be a lot of things that you might not be. Women are usually expected to be attractive, which is really unfortunate because it's not like you can easily change your appearance all that much. Men are expected to be strong, self-sufficient and confident, things that you CAN change about yourself with enough time and effort.

Biologically, I'd say that men definitely have the upper hand. I don't know what a... uh, well, what a cycle is like. But if it's anything like receiving a kick in the downstairs hardware, I'm immediately sympathetic. ;c;

[Here No Longer 5,276]

I think neither has it much better than the other in any regard to be honest.

[The Historian 516]

Neither has it any easier than the other. I've seen one side already and it sucked. Now I'm going to the other side and, so far, it's just as bad but for different reasons.

[Yoshi89 5,293]

Both genders have their own sets of abilities. There really is no way of saying one is better than the other.

[daviddaviddavid 776]

Clearly men have it better. Even though the differences in social equality might be extremely low in certain parts of Europe, they're still worryingly prevalent in the US (and this leads to other factors, such as economic inequality) and are absolutely appalling in some parts of Asia and Africa to the point where, in some of those places, literally abusing women and making them subservient to men is seen as a normal thing. 

And that's not even taking into account biological inequality - men don't bleed every month, we're (typically) less emotional, we're of greater physical stature, we don't have to deal with having boobs (I guess on the plus side women live a few years longer than men on average, but that's literally where the positives end). There's also no social pressure for us to look immaculate or keep up with the latest fashion trends, and we're spared from a constant barrage of media-driven influence to look and/or behave a certain way.

It's just literally inexplicable to me how anyone can unironically think that women have life easier than men. I'm so glad that I was born a guy so I don't have to suffer through any of this, and I always try and take extra time to be kinder to the women that are in my life because I want them to know that what they go through isn't okay and that they have support behind them should they need it.

And I'm not a 'feminist' btw, or anything close to it. I'm a normal guy, and while biological (and possibly social/cultural) differences between men and women will never be eradicated, I simply lament that both groups aren't always treated as though they are of equal value to the world.

[TBD 17,254]

Like @daviddaviddavid said in some parts of the countries, example mainly in the some parts of Asia and Africa, they're still cultured to treat men like royal and women like shit let alone being  intolerable towards LGBT. So in a term of culture, sex are being treated differently than other if not, worst mainly for the women. Men often suffered from being peer pressured by their culture stance of "becoming a men" but hell, at least it's better then being treated like trash. I'm mainly looking at you Kpop companies.. Cultural view towards sex/gender is harder to fix because technically you got people who are very traditionalist and typically brainwashed by it.

Now as for the western side, the problem is less on cultural issues and more towards stereotype and discrimination issues. Where both gender both have equally amount of fairness and unfairness based upon  these "labels" they are force into by the society's arrogance. Which it should can be plausible be fix and overcome but again, arrogances. I found it funny how when a woman cut her hair like a boy and get complimented for stepping out the "woman shell", because it shows "empowerment". When on the other hand, when a man were to wear makeup, they get judge for showing their "feminine" side and depowered them for it. Western "culture" in my opinion is pretty arrogant when it come to sex/gender for they often hide it under the mat or pretend it's not there ("anymore"), turning it into a "gray area". Or you’d have some who would stir up gender “inequality” shit just to gain some petty advantages. While you have the other countries as I mentioned,  clearly show the sex/gender issues without a second thought and who actually suffered from it. Despite of these people denying it,  it's obviously there. clear cut. Black and white.

  

[Emerald Claus 24,872]

Men.

Men are considered more powerful because they "run the family" or whatever while the woman is less appreciated. Woman like me fear for our lives every day because we are constantly being targeted.

Men can turn down a girl with ease, but when a girl turns down a boy the automatic question is "Are you a lesbian?" (This has actually happened to me once).

Woman have less pay.

We are looked down upon for even touching ONE THING that could be considered "masculine."

(I wear men's deodorant).

Woman are sexualized in so many commercials and movies it's ridiculous.

Woman get criticized for showing skin while men do not because apparently that is considered "normal."

 

[Jesse Terrence 2,968]

Hrm, I guess it depends on the society? I mean, in muslim societies it's obvious that women will have it waaaaaaay too hard. They are not considered people over there, more like breeding slaves if you ask me.

Now, western cultures have their way to put things a bit too hard for both.

In the more open minded, civilized cultures the struggles seem a bit similar and it's hard to tell. Usually the easiest way to tell is through mere data. Take a place like the USA and you'll notice there are far more male casualties, but that's because war is sort of a bussiness for such country and they deploy way more units than any other country in the world for said things, and it's kind of new that women get deployed into battle.

Now, in latin american countries the perspective changes quite a lot, and depending on the modernization of the region it might be harder to be male than to be female. I'll put 2 examples from my country (Mexico).
In more developed regions, like west coast and the capital region (where both Guadalajara and DF are, repectively), being a male is harder than being female. But why is that? Because there's enough culture to treat women like people but not to treat men like people.
I grew up in a farming city nearby Guadalajara, and men will always be beggars and never choosers. As a man, you're supposed to supress all your feelings and if you don't, well, is not just people picking on you, but rather people "giving you a reason to cry". People get very physical around here with "weaklings" to make them "true men". Women can (and are encouraged) to bully on men they reject. And actually, women are encouraged to reject as many guys as they want until a wealthy one asks them out. In other places women would be called out for being gold diggers, but here nobody will question them. As a man, you MUST pay everything in a date, too. And if you get married you're called out if you require of the help of your spouse to pay bills and all that. There's also a general rule around these lands. Only cowards harm women. And thus, the violence rates against men are high. But it's also a funny phenomena, since you can find some actual household abuse of women against men. I won't deny, though, there being the usual gender violence, but numbers here are a bit awkward, since the murder rates of women killing men are a bit more equal to the typical men killing women rates. Also, while it's true there are many feminicides, they don't represent the biggest part of murders as a whole. What does that mean? Well, yeah, lots of women get killed, but far more men are killed (and that's not seen as grim as a feminicide). Even criminal groups are far less violent on women they kill than they are on men they kill. I don't want to get into nasty and gory details, but if you're male and a criminal group is about to end your life, you'll wish it didn't take as long as it will, or definitively you'd rather be a woman to have a quick end instead.
There's this funny discrimination against men in other aspects, too. While it is understandable that they will have women exclusive train cars to avoid harassment against women, they give some nasty advantages to women around here. You can easily find restaurants and other places where women get lower regular prices all the time everyday. Women can easily cut in a line and you'll be frown upon if you demand said woman to respect the line. It has happened to me several times at the bus or the metro that I'm demanded to leave my seat to whatever woman asks for it disregard if I'm obviously sick or even if I'm hurt and bandaged and god forbit if I deny it because the whole bunch of people gets nasty. Seriously, people can see you with crutches and they will still demand you to get up for the rest of the ride for someone who is totally healthy just because of their sex. And things at schools are damn annoying, too. Girls can bully on you and even hit you, but you're supposed to let it happen and even teachers won't do a thing about it. The thing you'll wish the most until you reach highschool is to never be noticed by girls, because that's prone to end in unstoppable, justified bullying. Also, companies will give preference to women who try out for a job over men since the government helps companies that keep at least 50% women rates in their workforce. Bonuses if they have more women than men in their staff. And not only that, most heavy duty and physically demanding work will pay the same wage to either gender, but men have higher goals to achieve than women in those jobs, meaning women can actually do less and get paid the same as men.

Now, the other side of the coin is super nasty, too. Regions which are super traditional are hell-on-earth for women. In places like Chiapas (that's at the south border next to Belice and Guatemala) or Oaxaca men can BUY women. And you'd say "well, dude pays thousands for her or expensive jewels, cars, trucks or something like that". I mean, a person is worth a lot, right? Well, not there, at least. In traditional regions with low social development and that are forsaken by the government (as ordered by some laws and following the respect native settlements UN mumbo-jumbo) you could buy your flaming hot, totally new bride by the bargain of a sheep and maybe a chicken. No kidding. And given they don't follow the mexican age of consent laws, a family can sell their daughter for immediate marriage at literally any age as they see fit. As a bride in that kind of communities, or as a wife, women don't have a say on anything at all. Their husbands are more like their owners and they are more like slaves rather than people. Come to think about it, not even when they are with their parents do they have a say on anything. They are more like stock merch for bartering later on.
There are other places around the country which are, to some extent, more civilized than those communities, but not as much as the capitals. In those places, being either can be awful. You'll find machismo everywhere with tones of abuse against males too. Places where women get lower wages, but men are exploited up to 12 hours shifts 6 days a week. Families will see it wrong for women to want to study a college degree, but men are obliged to drop from highschool so they work and "help their family" by working before they are legally adults (18 years old for the country).

 

So yeah, tl;dr version:
Mexico sucks. If you're a woman you'll suffer in poorly developed regions. If you're a man, you'll suffer in developed regions. I'm a man in a developed region.

[Lucky Bolt 35,063]

7 hours ago, Frosted Heart said:

Men.

Men are considered more powerful because they "run the family" or whatever while the woman is less appreciated. Woman like me fear for our lives every day because we are constantly being targeted.

Men can turn down a girl with ease, but when a girl turns down a boy the automatic question is "Are you a lesbian?" (This has actually happened to me once).

Woman have less pay.

We are looked down upon for even touching ONE THING that could be considered "masculine."

(I wear men's deodorant).

Woman are sexualized in so many commercials and movies it's ridiculous.

Woman get criticized for showing skin while men do not because apparently that is considered "normal."

 

Thank you. 
 

Also I’d love to see men try surviving bleeding your brains out every month like clockwork, or carrying a living person inside you for nearly a year. 
 

I know both genders have their own troubles but females have to deal with a LOT worse. And men wonder why we're so moody all the time.....

[Rebel the Wolfgirl 5,605]

6 hours ago, Jesse Terrence said:

Hrm, I guess it depends on the society? I mean, in muslim societies it's obvious that women will have it waaaaaaay too hard. They are not considered people over there, more like breeding slaves if you ask me.

Now, western cultures have their way to put things a bit too hard for both.

In the more open minded, civilized cultures the struggles seem a bit similar and it's hard to tell. Usually the easiest way to tell is through mere data. Take a place like the USA and you'll notice there are far more male casualties, but that's because war is sort of a bussiness for such country and they deploy way more units than any other country in the world for said things, and it's kind of new that women get deployed into battle.

Now, in latin american countries the perspective changes quite a lot, and depending on the modernization of the region it might be harder to be male than to be female. I'll put 2 examples from my country (Mexico).
In more developed regions, like west coast and the capital region (where both Guadalajara and DF are, repectively), being a male is harder than being female. But why is that? Because there's enough culture to treat women like people but not to treat men like people.
I grew up in a farming city nearby Guadalajara, and men will always be beggars and never choosers. As a man, you're supposed to supress all your feelings and if you don't, well, is not just people picking on you, but rather people "giving you a reason to cry". People get very physical around here with "weaklings" to make them "true men". Women can (and are encouraged) to bully on men they reject. And actually, women are encouraged to reject as many guys as they want until a wealthy one asks them out. In other places women would be called out for being gold diggers, but here nobody will question them. As a man, you MUST pay everything in a date, too. And if you get married you're called out if you require of the help of your spouse to pay bills and all that. There's also a general rule around these lands. Only cowards harm women. And thus, the violence rates against men are high. But it's also a funny phenomena, since you can find some actual household abuse of women against men. I won't deny, though, there being the usual gender violence, but numbers here are a bit awkward, since the murder rates of women killing men are a bit more equal to the typical men killing women rates. Also, while it's true there are many feminicides, they don't represent the biggest part of murders as a whole. What does that mean? Well, yeah, lots of women get killed, but far more men are killed (and that's not seen as grim as a feminicide). Even criminal groups are far less violent on women they kill than they are on men they kill. I don't want to get into nasty and gory details, but if you're male and a criminal group is about to end your life, you'll wish it didn't take as long as it will, or definitively you'd rather be a woman to have a quick end instead.
There's this funny discrimination against men in other aspects, too. While it is understandable that they will have women exclusive train cars to avoid harassment against women, they give some nasty advantages to women around here. You can easily find restaurants and other places where women get lower regular prices all the time everyday. Women can easily cut in a line and you'll be frown upon if you demand said woman to respect the line. It has happened to me several times at the bus or the metro that I'm demanded to leave my seat to whatever woman asks for it disregard if I'm obviously sick or even if I'm hurt and bandaged and god forbit if I deny it because the whole bunch of people gets nasty. Seriously, people can see you with crutches and they will still demand you to get up for the rest of the ride for someone who is totally healthy just because of their sex. And things at schools are damn annoying, too. Girls can bully on you and even hit you, but you're supposed to let it happen and even teachers won't do a thing about it. The thing you'll wish the most until you reach highschool is to never be noticed by girls, because that's prone to end in unstoppable, justified bullying. Also, companies will give preference to women who try out for a job over men since the government helps companies that keep at least 50% women rates in their workforce. Bonuses if they have more women than men in their staff. And not only that, most heavy duty and physically demanding work will pay the same wage to either gender, but men have higher goals to achieve than women in those jobs, meaning women can actually do less and get paid the same as men.

Now, the other side of the coin is super nasty, too. Regions which are super traditional are hell-on-earth for women. In places like Chiapas (that's at the south border next to Belice and Guatemala) or Oaxaca men can BUY women. And you'd say "well, dude pays thousands for her or expensive jewels, cars, trucks or something like that". I mean, a person is worth a lot, right? Well, not there, at least. In traditional regions with low social development and that are forsaken by the government (as ordered by some laws and following the respect native settlements UN mumbo-jumbo) you could buy your flaming hot, totally new bride by the bargain of a sheep and maybe a chicken. No kidding. And given they don't follow the mexican age of consent laws, a family can sell their daughter for immediate marriage at literally any age as they see fit. As a bride in that kind of communities, or as a wife, women don't have a say on anything at all. Their husbands are more like their owners and they are more like slaves rather than people. Come to think about it, not even when they are with their parents do they have a say on anything. They are more like stock merch for bartering later on.
There are other places around the country which are, to some extent, more civilized than those communities, but not as much as the capitals. In those places, being either can be awful. You'll find machismo everywhere with tones of abuse against males too. Places where women get lower wages, but men are exploited up to 12 hours shifts 6 days a week. Families will see it wrong for women to want to study a college degree, but men are obliged to drop from highschool so they work and "help their family" by working before they are legally adults (18 years old for the country).

 

So yeah, tl;dr version:
Mexico sucks. If you're a woman you'll suffer in poorly developed regions. If you're a man, you'll suffer in developed regions. I'm a man in a developed region.

 

15 minutes ago, Lucky Bells said:

Thank you. 
 

Also I’d love to see men try surviving bleeding your brains out every month like clockwork, or carrying a living person inside you for nearly a year. 
 

I know both genders have their own troubles but females have to deal with a LOT worse. And men wonder why we're so moody all the time.....

Speaking as a man? Women have it way harder. I'll never understand why women have such a stigma attached to them.

[Cyclone 1066 3,619]

In the 20th century, women. Today, both. Everything has been more evened out than we care to admit and also more than men will publicly admit to avoid pissing off a woman. Sure there's a stigma against women but in today's America there is a stigma that almost makes it feel like a crime to be a man. The amount of things men are not allowed to do publicly due to social beliefs is fairly high and we are walking around on eggshells every day.

But I also agree that women have it just as rough for different reasons but I feel those have been brought up and explained multiple times but I just figured we should bring up some of the struggles a man goes through because they seem to be overlooked and I'd say laughed at in today's society. 

[Oblivion 20,266]

Why almost always gets the child in a custody battle? Ask that question to yourself and answer honestly and you have your answer! 

[Vefka 1,499]

Judging by today's society in western countries women have it easier in many ways

[Yakamaru 3,127]

Neither. Both have their own pros and cons. A guy may not experience X, but a woman can easily experience it, the same way a woman may not experience Y but a guy may easily experience Y.

The gender differences have been around for millions of years and will be around for millions more.